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3 minutes ago, MrSMW said:

Maybe one day soon there will be more info one way or the other…

I'm beginning to think we've tricked ourselves into believing something great might happen when it's probably going to be another get together where a Panny rep says "we know the AF isn't up to much but we are looking into it. would you like some more sushi internet guy?"

2 hours ago, John Matthews said:

This will all be assuming that any of this LiDAR tech is any good... remains to be seen.

My god it better be good or the internet will explode with rage! Lumix cameras will be burnt in their dozens (according to the latest sales figures), Panasonic reps will receive several hate tweets (now permitted) whilst the remaining doubters will be carried over onto the populist march to total dominance by Sony.

I have the Falcam F38. I use it with the S5 with the 24mm 1.8 on the Weebill and it seems sturdy and well made. Only used it a couple of times though.

7 hours ago, newfoundmass said:

I know in the past DJI released drones with M43 sensors and even released a 15mm f1.4 lens, which was just a re-branded version of the Panasonic Leica 15mm. I'm curious what DJI gets out of this new partnership, assuming it's all related. 

DJI gets to bring focus to the alliance.

Another thing is that I would hope that it works on Sigma, DJI and Leica lenses too. That would be a real boost to the L alliance.

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My understanding is that PDAF is more expensive to implement than DFD and could explain some of the price difference between Panasonic and almost every other brand. In that context I would have no problem paying extra for a reliable AF unit.

1 hour ago, John Matthews said:

Given the size of this gathering, a photo of the GH6 (especially with the hotshoe cover off), and, after doing some research, the complexity of setting up a LiDAR system, I'm going to conclude that Panasonic will be showing off a LiDAR system (made by DJI) with compatibility for at least the GH6 and native Panasonic lenses, using their internal focusing motors. It will be a simple connection via the hotshoe or USB C jack (most likely) where the Venus processor communicates with the DJI LiDAR System to achieve near-perfect tracking of objects and people. The process to connect the camera and LiDAR system will be seamless and simple (unlike the current crazy process IMO). I cannot see what else would get this much attention. To be determined.

So you think that it would only work on the next generation S series cameras? I hope not. If it works on my S1 and S5 I'll be buying one as soon as it's available.

So when is this actually happening?

1 hour ago, stephen said:

We know that DJI LIDAR module will work with cameras and without the need of RS 3 gimbal. Their module however still needs an external motor and smartphone for the application to move / focus the lens. Maybe Panasonic will demo a new camera where LIDAR will focus the lens internally without the need of external motor and smartphone. Just a speculation.

That would be great.

4 hours ago, mercer said:

Honestly, I don't quite understand why Panasonic shooters are still complaining about their AF? This isn't 2014, if you need AF go buy a Canon or Sony. It's not like Panasonic is leaps and bounds ahead of Canon and Sony with video features any more. In fact, they're probably lacking.

I think Panasonic is a much more stable video system than Sony and Canon and for many that counts a lot. It is probably more reliable when recording long form, has less faffing about than Sony to set up exposure and colour, it has 180 degrees. There are many reasons to like Panasonic over others and that's why we want reliable Panny AF. 

1 hour ago, MrSMW said:

Yes, I would very much like to know 'if' closely followed by 'when?'.

Surely they could not realistically release another camera without some form of 'on par' AF?

I think they'd bomb 100% if they did not.

And other than perhaps a size & weight concern for some, it's not just their weakness, but their Achilles Heel.

For some dedicated hardcore filmmaking purists, maybe not, but to the other 99% of the market, decent AF is a must.

I've wrestled with it for the last 2 years now.

OK, it's ONLY been an issue for less than 5% of my work where I need decent forward or backward tracking and there IS a workaround (it's called f8), but it's not ideal and I came sooooooo close to flipping to another brand to counter this.

All Pannyboy need to do to NOT cock it up for me with their next FF camera is:

A. Reliable AF at least close to if not better than current Canon/Sony.

B. Ideally, S5 size, but with the S1H style screen.

C. Ideally no crop 6k 50p / 4k 100p, 10 bit, internal.

Job done. I'll buy 3.

Totally. I’ll add 2 things. The S1 LVF and being able to disable the angle/shutter wheel.

When is all Panasonic needs to tell us. I hope for their sake as well as those of us who are invested in their system that it’s the next generation of the S line.

New Mac to replace my fully specced iMac late 2013 (has been a great work horse but I'm tired of work in proxies with 4K 10 bit).

I'm torn between a 16" MacBook Pro with 1TB and 16gb ram, the base Mac Studio or a Mac Mini with 16gb 512GB ( cheap option for a year or so).

I bought my Lumix S5 with a 500€ cash back deal in Spain. It works as you say. I think it took a month or 2 to get the cash back. Great deals.

So....any idea how 4k 50p at 6400 or above looks?

What is it like at 6400 iso? I'm not sure what everyone else thinks but for me 6400 iso y a lowlight iso, especially at corporate events and weddings. 

I bought my S1 with Vlog for 1100€ a year ago. A fantastic but slightly heavy camera. Best value I think.

With the S5 you can record with no limit with 4K 25 8bit and 1080 10 bit. I do long form streaming with one. 2-3 hours non stop. I have the XLR unit with pro audio. It's the same price as the FX30 XLR unit.

Anyway, great to have so many choices. just make sure you don't take Youtube influencers as gospel.

In Spain the S5 is 1835€ with 200€ cash back, so 1635€. The FX30 without the XLR adaptor is 2300€ which is quite a lot. Enough to buy a quality lens.

There is a kind of flap filter that you can stick your vnd on. Just flip it up and down. No idea if it’s any good.

50 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

With RF I can use EF lenses with the vND adapter which is a much better solution than the filter in front of a lens one..at least for me. One of the deciding factors going RF.

I agree that’s a great system. There is an adapter for EF to L mount that has a vnd but I’m not sure how it affects af.

I use Xume magnetic filter rings for my vnds. They are very useful. I don’t know why they stopped making them.

I've come to the same conclusion for now. I can't find better value than L Mount. What I would say is that if you haven't tried the Panasonic 1.8 lenses then you should. I really like them and they work well for both photo and video.

I think Deity has a small directional mic (like the Rode Go) but with a minijack input. This means you could plug in a wireless receiver into that output and in theory have stereo with one track being directional mic and the other the wireless giving you 2 tracks incase anything goes wonky with one. I don't know whether that will work with a phone though, I've only seen people do it with cameras.

I had the Tascam and whilst it worked it was good. But… it stopped recording sound one day and since then I’ve never trusted it. I found other people online who have had the same problem. For critical sound you should get something you can monitor.