Dimitris Stasinos

The mavic's video is unfocused. This was mentioned many many times on every other forum and YT video. And no the mavic has NOT smaller sensor. It is the exact same size as P4's. Where did you read this?

You see you proved my point that you need to compare it yourself or from somebody that know how you do camera comparisons and not jump to conclusion based on a single source of guy that the sole interest is to have views and is not removing or posting a corrected version....As a early reviewer the minimum that he should have done was to contact DJI and ask for an explanation... 
I think DJI will learn the lesson not to handout test device to those vloggers that test everything from fridges to hotel rooms:-) without any supervision....
 

IMHO if we keep the video aside, for a moment, the DJI Mavic is way more advanced than the GoPro Karma, simply by the insane level of its features (travel range, speed, ability to tackle obstacles, follow users, respond to gestures for commands, sending great quality video to the controller/ smartphone, being like 1/3rd or 1/4th the size of the GoPro Karma, etc etc). These features alone push it into a different league. 

Then add the price difference. The GoPro throws in a removable camera, and a removable gimbal, but for a lot more (many hundred dollars more). If DJI had a removable camera module, with a built in stabilizer or a stabilizer stick, the GoPro would have been a joke. I doubt whether Anyone would have bought it.

As a Drone they aren't even in the same category, atleast where features are concerned. 

Tha last video kinda sold me too (kinda). BUT...The first comparison is a joke..He compares a camera with fixed focus to infinity with a camera with adjustable focus on a subject that's 50-70cm away...There is no way that this is not stupid...Actually it is stupid enough for someone to stop the video and wait for the next one to make conclusions...Also, if the footage is legit, mavic's image quality is fine for dayshots but very weak at nightshots. P4 seems to give a more pleasing image at those nightshots with slightly better DR and less noise. Overall, mavic is starting to gain some ground and its totally DJI's fault that it lost its popularity last week. When you produce groundbraking products like this you just don't send the prototypes to fools and if you do, at least try to include a brochure with BIG black letters in a sentence like "tap to focus..."

Sadly the diffrence between P4 and Mavic in image quality seems big, if not huge (at least judging form these early videos). The word "huge" may sound kinda extreme here, but when you have a tiny sensor like this and you need every bit of it to produce a decent image, and then.....Dji cripples this Sony IMXsomething through software to protect Phantom 4's sales...then, yeah the difference is huge. I wanted to like it though...practical as hell..

The most horrid camera in comparison with what? Dji Mavic?....or Canon 1dc? Lets say you had mavic on your mind...where did you see its grace? Those early videos have been processed and graded in post from pros to look as good as it gets...and they still seem jittery & soft....Not trying to bash you here, just trying to undestand your statement. I am not a fan of GoPro either but you are saying that you will purchase mavic because "No Protune saves the grace or its absence" on GoPro. Cmon... in terms of "real" quality they are both S**T next to a mirrorless camera but this is not what we are discussing here, we are trying to find their pros & cons for casual semi-pro use...right?

Nothing wrong with your 35 mm golden standard :). I agree with every sentence you wrote on your last post, there is indeed a thin line between tools and toys which can be surpassed with tricks. But this line gets thinner & thinner every year...I am seeing professionals that own very expensive aerial platforms, building their portfolio from staff that they have shot on their free time using these little guys...Yeah they are made for fun but this is what also feeds professionalism...pure fun...I used a Dji S900 with a GH4 last month. No fun...Acceptable dynamic range, great resolution, nice colors...but no fun...It's not funny (nor proffesional) when you use a 7000 usd machine that might perform an impressing flip of death on a poor man's head because dji messed up it's late update. Look at what Phillip Bloom made with a GoPro3+ and a poor Phantom (try to download the original file):
 

The most horrid camera in comparison with what? Dji Mavic?....or Canon 1dc? Lets say you had mavic on your mind...where did you see its grace? Those early videos have been processed and graded in post from pros to look as good as it gets...and they still seem jittery & soft....Not trying to bash you here, just trying to undestand your statement. I am not a fan of GoPro either but you are saying that you will purchase mavic because "No Protune saves the grace or its absence" on GoPro. Cmon... in terms of "real" quality they are both S**T next to a mirrorless camera but this is not what we are discussing here, we are trying to find their pros & cons for casual semi-pro use...right?

You bet! : ) In comparison with the excellence a standard like 35mm format (as well, sensor size related) with all the sorts of low-grade variants from 16mm to video has led the motion picture for more than a century to face our eyes. 
Take a second read in my stuff earlier along the thread (posts, likes...). They are all the same shit, more or less. As said before, they can be synonymous of fun, personal use, even some inserts (de)pending on certain circumstances and tricks. No more than that.
A purchase can't necessarily mean a professional tool, as for instance. As same as a toy can be used in a gig if works. Mission accomplished. What's wrong about it? Just don't expect you'll become a race pilot only because you're able to drive fast in the highway with your brand new car. The F1 from 80s, 90s or whatever year you want will always belong to a different league. No matter what techie pins they will try to sell the fanciest new toy you/we all want to buy and play with. So far, at least :-)

The most horrid camera in comparison with what? Dji Mavic?....or Canon 1dc? Lets say you had mavic on your mind...where did you see its grace? Those early videos have been processed and graded in post from pros to look as good as it gets...and they still seem jittery & soft....Not trying to bash you here, just trying to undestand your statement. I am not a fan of GoPro either but you are saying that you will purchase mavic because "No Protune saves the grace or its absence" on GoPro. Cmon... in terms of "real" quality they are both S**T next to a mirrorless camera but this is not what we are discussing here, we are trying to find their pros & cons for casual semi-pro use...right?

This is very true...All i see is the same Sony sensor (with some minor differences) in a great variety of products like Phantom 4, GoPro, Mavic and even smartphones..but nobody has unlocked it's full potential. Dji has shitty compression (and dlog is a total joke), gopro has that ugly ultra-wide lens and smartphones are just smartphones...Sony's latest action cam gives us 100 mbps but there is not a f***ing drone made for it.
Anyway, it seems that karma has a better construction quality (mavic looks like transformers toy with cheap plastics) and better IQ, from what we have seen so far. But in linear mode you are stuck to 2.7K. I am hoping for a direct comparison between these too, a proper one because all these A versus B videos are usually made by amateurs and focus on silly things. 

Cameras, drones, it's always the same thing... they have the oppertunity to make it the ultimate thing out there... but they all just focus on one aspect instead of doing it all. I guess that's what running a business is about... not neccessarily beating the competition, but doing something different and leaving room for improvement so you can sell another one at a later time. Ugh. Need more people like Elon Musk that try to push the boundaries of what is possible with technology.

As a 5d iii user and big fan of 5d ML raw, i always wondered how raw on 5d is considered as a "real" option for this camera and not a luxury (time consuming, unriable, extreme cost per Gb of footage etc). It seems that you need these cameras for real jobs so i would stay away from a camera which has two modes: A) crappy & softy low cost HD (personal opinion as an owner...don't shoot me...), B) spectacular & CC friendly raw with a serious price tag. For me, a tool has to give a constant result every time i use it, because you never know what kind of challenge you will face in the near future. Lets say you have a 2-cam/100 min event coverage next week....hmmmm....mode A...damn, what if you desperately need mode B? You have seen it, you liked it but you can't have it this time because it's not a video clip.
Also, you may have become used to the workflow but you will never look back once you have used a proper codec from a serious video camera.
Also  If you keep your 5d and purchase an A7s ii you will have to face a painful workflow on the one hand and a CC odyssey on the other to match these cameras in post. So, i would pay the difference for a 1dc...