KitaCam

4 hours ago, jonpais said:

I’m also wondering whether anyone who’s purchased the X-H1 would be so kind as to determine if the much vaunted top E ink display still fails to distinguish between UHD and DCI 4K. Oh wait, you didn’t even notice? Guess that ornament wasn’t that necessary after all...

I can confirm that the E-ink display does not currently differentiate between whether UHD or DCI 4K is selected.

5 hours ago, mkabi said:

Okay then @frontfocus when you are doing the slowmotion tests, please do additional tests like increasing the shutter speed to match the 180 degree rule to the actual frame rate. So if you are planning to shoot 120fps, then try 1/240 - even though it has in camera conforming - I feel that people are setting it at 1/48 because it is recording it at 24fps.

Try various shutter speeds, see if Moire and Aliasing still exist. Thanks in advance.

My suspicion is that if shooting at 5 x 24 then a shutter speed of 120 may have been used as that is what the camera seems to default to if you had been shooting 24fps at 1/48th previously. 

Ok.......back to it for those interested in the X-H1..

Couple of further relevant experiences:

1.) Rollin' shutter in 4K 24p. This is completely anecdotal and not measured/timed, though I can imagine some might think this is an issue for moderate speed switching of angles etc. i.e. It's certainly noticeable if not handled with care

2.) Memory cards are an issue, certainly with the 200Mbits/s recording. Whilst my Lexar Professional x1000 cards seem to work fine for short periods, they also cause abrupt stops to recording every so often. Probably wise to follow (expensive) fuji recommended SD card guidance here (http://www.fujifilm.com/support/digital_cameras/compatibility/card/x/)

I can confirm I also discovered that DR400 autofocus inconsistency was the problem, and when on DR100 it is really good from my tests. DR200 also seems good and I'm unsure if it's the same as DR100 or slightly worse at this point. Seems like this is something that can be fixed. Is there a technical reason why performance would be worse at DR400?

On a positive note, it's true, Eterna looks really great, really really great. BTW you can't use ISO < 800 with Eterna as per using Flog.

If you're going to use an external recorder (why bother now - ok exposure tools like FC an zebra's - c'mon the FW update) get a straight connector HDMI cable not one with a 90degree bend as it won't play nice with the (sensible) accompanying screw-in HDMI cable holder. Yes I've broken one HDMI port on the X-T2 before with very light use.

As others have said, the camera is a beefier X-T2. Build quality is excellent, it's noticeably heavier, but frankly very quick to acclimatise to and very similar. Is it better/worse, I prefer it certainly and not just because it's new, however, I would always use the X-T2 with battery grip. With the X-H1, I prefer without the grip (spare batteries in pocket) as it's certainly not subtle with the grip attached and say 16-55. I love this camera with the now brilliantly stabilised 35mm 1.4.

Touchscreen performance, hmm, not spectacular. Certainly room for improvement here.

Spare batteries, it's true that you'll need a few without the grip. Not really a massive headache imho.

The Q-button, hmm, not sure this is placed in the most sensible position (on the thumb rest) as it frequently get's knocked/activated

Exposure compensation (photos) button, again, not loving this location/button type at present. Ergonomically not great for me at least. Depending on how you use the camera will determine how big a deal is this, for some loads, for me not really if i'm honest.

More testing reveals that Autofocus is in fact not toilet. Could you rely on it 100% for more critical shots, of course not, not at this stage of FW development, but despite some strong words on the topic, it's really not appalling and certainly does deliver wonderful transitions (not always noticeably stepped btw) at times. I feel it is strongly influenced by the amount of available light, which perhaps is not that surprising. Is there room for performance improvements, I certainly hope so and based on past experience believe it will happen. Fuji have created a great camera here, if you like Fuji, you'll like this, as after all we put up with the evolving software for the pleasure of the hardware right? Which other cameras feel this solid/crafted within a reasonable price bracket?

How to solve how to switch between video and photo mode via the top rotating toggle (and loss of 1/48th shutter speed), buy two bodies of course. I see the frustration with this, would be nice to have a short cut to directly jump into video record from photo mode.

Question, probably very simple, does anyone know how to avoid (turn-off) focus magnification punch in when in manual focus mode? I seem to be able to disable this in photo but not video mode.

I see dead cameras....

.....joke. But blimey, doesn't look great. Exaggerated by YT compressions etc?

Further comment about autofocus: It seems to work better in video mode (AF-C) before the record button is pressed - which seems a little unfortunate. Still investigating tweaks of various kinds. I can see it wants to work, hints of awesome performance are seen though these are heavily tempered by lots of essentially hanging in perpetual blur type behaviour...

I'm suspicious that the image stabilisation when using the 50-140mm (only lens I have with lens stabilisation) is worse than using lens only in the X-T2. Just a gut feeling, as I cannot test side by side anymore. I like the IBIS stabilisation performance with the 34mm 1.4 most, 90mm F2 also good, 16-55 F2.8 also good I think.

I still like/want to love this camera.....c'mon a Fuji SuperTweak to FW! Or perhaps a formal guide to explain as to how to get the best from AF in video settings, just in case we're all just doing something wrong...

On 02/03/2018 at 5:47 PM, KitaCam said:

Have to say I agree more with this train of thought than video autofocus being poor. I'm pretty (easily?) impressed. Well going on X-T2 performance that is. Particularly impressed by 90mm F2, 50-140mm F2.8 and 18-55mm. In fact even the 35mm F1.4 can be great for short clips (if noisy of course).

Ok, rapid backtracking (apologies AR), autofocus performance seems to have deteriorated on X-H1 vs X-T2, worryingly so in fact. There's me pre-purchase thinking it couldn't have been worse than the X-T2 implementation. Hmm. This is based on hands-on initial testing (out of box settings as well as with some tweaking) by myself with three recent/modern (linear motor) fuji lenses as well as the 35mm 1.4 which is expected to be a poor performer comparatively. Oh dear, though I still have faith in FW updates to solve, though I am certainly currently disappointed.

17 hours ago, Tim Sewell said:

I have no skin in this game, but on the Fuji camera forum I frequent a couple of people who have received their X-H1s are reporting that the AF is noticeably quicker. Obviously that's for stills - and they haven't detailed the lenses used - but I guess we shouldn't dismiss it too early. Those of us who use Fuji cams know that there is a difference similar to that between the weather in England right now and that enjoyed in the Florida Keys in AF performance between lenses.

Have to say I agree more with this train of thought than video autofocus being poor. I'm pretty (easily?) impressed. Well going on X-T2 performance that is. Particularly impressed by 90mm F2, 50-140mm F2.8 and 18-55mm. In fact even the 35mm F1.4 can be great for short clips (if noisy of course).

Could this be the X-H1 with an X-H1s to follow later ;-). The latter to answer all the 10bit 422 and Cinema 4K 60fps dreams! It never ends right...

Shame HDMI out is not 422 10bit perhaps with also the possibility for 4K 60FPS. Or then again, depending on who is talking, 8bit vs. 10bit F-Log is or isn't an issue!

On a related note: (https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/support)

What's new in Blackmagic Video Assist 2.5

Add multiple Scopes to the Video Assist 4K

Add Anamorphic Desqueeze to the Video Assist 4K

Add Blue only to the Video Assist 4K

General performance and stability updates to the Video Assist and Video Assist 4K

2 hours ago, Taranis said:

I posted two examples of in camera lens correction problems, to prove that in camera correction works for video too. Please read the thread before you start to criticise.

I don't believe I'm witnessing this with my footage using the 18-55mm. I could be wrong, but in those examples it seems very obvious to spot. Possibly an issue linked to continuous focus? Application of stabilisation via software etc.?

36 minutes ago, Kubrickian said:

Can I ask about focus lock on/off in video mode? Does the X-T2 let you push the AF-Lock button to toggle this? So you can kind of do an electronic focus pull. 

Correct me if i'm misinterpreting (or if there's a setting I've not found), though in (M) manual mode (via MCS switch on front), it seems you can only use the AF-L button before pressing record. So pressing AF-L during record has no effect. However, when selecting the (S) single focus mode (via MCS switch again), then you can press the shutter/record button (whilst recording) to do the focus pull once you've moved the green focus point/square (using the toggle) to the new area you want to focus upon.

2 hours ago, Trek of Joy said:

That poor little gorillapod...

Another couple of comments about this image are that the mic location is clearly not sensible as it is. Really placed there to give an idea of scale also. For one it's too cramped, but also as the VA has a rear fan, i imagine it's best to keep the mic as far from this as possible when recording in 4K (thinking the fan will run more heavily then?). I'm yet to test 4K because of the fun and games surrounding the need to source expensive, fast and tested as compatible (by BM) SD cards..

That's a big Gorillapod! Some more shots of the SmallRig cage....

For anyone wondering whether the VA 7in 4K is a tad unwieldy on the X-T2...