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Thanks for the feedback on the PL12-60. I'm still going to get it this week with my GH5 as I'm trading in one GX80 and selling my 12-35/2.8 and 35-100/2.8. With the ETC that should get me from 12-90mm which is almost as good as the Olympus. Wish the Olympus/Panasonic cooperated on dual-IS technology or I probably would have bought the Olympus 12-100 for event work. Not sure the Panasonic IBIS is good enough to use with the Olympus.

I've have the 17.5/25/42.5 Voigtlanders (got the set at a good price second hand). I was considering selling them on to replace with the PL12/1.4 and PL42.5/1.2 (as I already have the 15mm and 25mm PL lenses) to keep everything the same plus auto focus. The Voightlanders were not much use for me when I was doing event work (my manual focus skills aren't fast enough and I am using the GX80 which has a limited EVF) but they really came in handy when I was shooting some stuff inside a museum recently - and I like the dreamy look. I'm trying to reduce/consolidate lenses, so maybe I will unload them... although using them and reading posts like your makes it hard to do so...

@AaronChicago what do you do when you use the Tiffen Digital Diffusion outside? Stack them with an ND?

Thanks for this info. I was quoted £260 trade-in value for one of my GX80 from Wex (about the same as selling it on Ebay after commission/paypal). With the trade-in bonus of £200 that makes my GX80 worth £460 which gets me the GH5+Leica 12-60 for £1739 with 5 year warranty. I can likely get about £800-£900 for my P12-35/2.8 and P35-100/2.8 lenses which I will then sell, and keep my other GX80 for b-cam, gimbal and travel duty. Finishing up a long-term event-based documentary and realising how much of a pain sync sound is and how weak the GX80 mics are so looking forward to the GH5. Also having one main camera will be easier than juggling the two GX80s.

I probably should start another thread for this, but how is the syrp? I've had the genus and heliopan variables and they are quite good for colour, but now I just keep things simple with either no nd, or 3/6 stops depending on the light and just go with whatever aperture for the right exposure. I might also experiment with breaking the shutter rule as I know there are some that don't bother with nd or add motion blur in post. Also shooting with the 60 or 180 fps modes in the gh5 there is less need for nd to get close to the 180o shutter. That would be 1/120s or 1/360s shutter to get the same perceived motion blur?

That's what I'm thinking, thanks for the feedback - especially since I remember you weren't keen on the PL12-60 zoom when it was released. I use the breakthrough photography NDs 3/6 stop (sometimes 10 for timelapse) and until now I've been keeping all my lenses under 58mm using step ups and the xume magnetic adaptors to pop on/off filters. With the faster PL12/1.4 and 42.5/1.2 available I've been back and forth about selling my Voigtlander 17.5 and 42.5 lenses and just going with the PL12/1.4 and PL42.5/1.2 for indoor/low light, PL15/1.7 (and maybe 42.5/1.7) for travel and the PL12-60 for events. It might be easier to go all PL and autofocus but when I look at the museum shots I got with the V17.5 in the documentary I'm completing, it is hard to let them go. WEX in the UK has a trade in/up to the GH5 going on so I'm not sure what they'll give me for one of my GX80. I'll keep one gx80 for my bcam to gimbal cam.

Too bad they never really fixed the same on the 35-100/2.8. The only thing that made it better was the IBIS starting with the GX80. Was looking for some feedback on this lens as I'm considering selling a gx80 and my p12-35 and 35-100 lenses for the gh5+Leica 12-60 combo. For events it would make things easier than juggling two gx80 bodies. Downside is that I will need a bigger ND size for the 12-60.

For me the GH5 is more camera than I need, or know how to use - also too big for what I like too. I just would like some features like the 4k/60p, 180fps, and extra ETC options (no need for longer zoom). I only own the two 2.8 zooms and the 15/1.7 and 75/1.8 right now. The others are wishful thinking and only if I sell the Voigtlanders.

Yeah, that's how I use my GX80s. I love my Voigtlanders, but miss the AF-S insurance when I use them. Still really thinking of consolidating my lenses to a few Panasonic primes and a couple of zooms. 12-35/2.8 + 35-100/2.8 for outdoor events 12/1.4 + 42.5/1.2 for low-light/indoors (will keep Olympus 75/1.8 for range) 15/1.7 + 42.5/1.7 for travel.

I'll try to get to it next week. I recorded a bunch of things with the instamic over the Easter weekend. I clipped it to my kids as they ran around with/without the windmuff and planted it in and out of sight around where the action was.

Hey Jase, I'm in the same situation as you. Love the GX80 and it goes everywhere with me and the 15/1.7 mounted. Prefer the tilt screen too. I'm doing a small documentary with a lot of kids in educational settings. The client loves the fact that I just disappear and the kids forget that I'm there. I would love the extra slow motion and Tele-converter features of the GH5, but the tradeoffs in size, extra battery type, etc. are a pain. For sound I've been relying on a lav + small Tascam DR-10 recorder, but I've just received my instamic pro which is great and should make it so easy to quickly clip to someone when needed and record excellent audio without wires, especially kids. There is a unofficial facebook group about the instamic. I haven't had a chance to really test the mic yet, but when I'm on Easter Holiday this weekend, I'll clip it to my kids and see what I can put together.

I agree here. I'm paring the PL15/1.7 with the P42.5/1.7 or O75/1.8 for indoor use and the P2.8 zooms for outdoor day events where I can't really open up past 2.8 with NDs anyway. I also use the Voigtlander 17.5 and 42.5 f/0.95 pair if the venue is really dim and I cannot use lights and I have time for manual focus. Otherwise it is M+AF-S with the auto-focus lenses which I find quite handy to get around the lower-resolution GX80 EVF. (Still debating trading in the Voigtlanders for the PL12/1.4 and PL42.5/1.2 for lower light). The other day I went to shoot some sports and filled a peak design backpack with two GX80, P35-100/2.8, O9-18 wide zoom, PL15/1.7, PL100-400 (that didn't really need), plus audio equipment, chargers, laptop, external drives, tripod, monopod, clothes, etc. Just amazed that all that including two decent 4k cameras and lenses that can cover 18-800mm (in full frame terms) could fit in a carry on. Despite the siren songs from Sony or Fuji, the small bodies, lenses, and IBIS are what keep me with micro 4/3. Also, using 4k cropping or the 1080p ETC modes, you can get away with a much lesser zoom. I didn't need the 100-400 as I could rely on the 35-100 to get me to 200mm @ f/2.8.

Thanks for pointing out this review. I cancelled my GH5+PL12-60 preorder earlier when you were suggesting to wait for the lens reviews. I hope that the PL 8-18 zoom turns out better as a potential replacement for my Olympus 9-18 zoom that I travel with when I want standard filters and don't want to pack my Olympus 7-14/2.8. I still have the two Panasonic 2.8 zooms which are really handy for events and use 58mm filters (which I've standardised upon). They produce a nice image, the dual-IS with those lenses is pretty good for video, and they are jacket pocketable when mounted on my GX80s. Does anyone know of any reviews or comparisons between the old and new versions of the Panasonic 2.8 zooms?

I'm shooting a documentary right now with 2 GX80 (mostly school-type events), and other than the EVF being difficult to focus with and no punch-in magnification during recording, they are great, small, unobtrusive tools and I like the image quality. The clients and teachers have commented on how they forget that I'm there most of the time and I can fit an entire mobile recording studio including two tripods, a monopod and audio stuff in a backpack with lots of room to spare. The Olympus does have better IBIS, but the GX80 is pretty good too unless you are using a wide lens (distortion wobble) or move jerkily. I switch between the Voigtlander 17.5/42.5 combo, the PL15/1.7 + Olympus 75.1.8, or the Panasonic 2.8 zooms depending on how much space I have, light, or how fast things are moving. I've been really considering replacing the Voigtlanders with the PL12/1.4 and PL42.5/1.2 as it is so much easier to ensure focus with the back button... but then I look at the images.

100% agree, my favourite lens right now (above my previous favourite pl25/1.4). The size, field of view, rendering, aperture dial, autofocus and manual focus control is fantastic. It is always on one of my gx80s.

I did think about it, sorry my question wasn't clear. I recorded separate sound in realtime with the binaural mics and I want to play with the speed of the sleds since I shot at 50fps and they go by so fast. The ambient sound is cool, so I'll google for any examples where people have tied in the audio while altering the video playback timing. I'm way off topic, sorry. On topic: After using my gx80 and dualIS for almost a year now I still think that my former E-M5ii was more solid and less wobbly in the Stabilisation department...

I just bought the ohrwurm and walked around with them and the little dead cats on my ears shooting bobsled and skeleton this past weekend. I was using my gx80 which doesn't have mic in so I need to sync. Despite looking like an idiot, the sound is really amazing and quite spooky when listening with headphones on. I listened to the audio of some of the bobsleds rumbling by and it sounds quite good except on day 1 I stupidly left the limiter on the Sony recorder (which is awesome, and much smaller than the zoom h1 - too bad it has been discontinued!). I'll put something together if I can. Offtopic but any tips on how to manage audio with slowing down and playing with the speed of 50fps video?

True, and I use a combination of Hawaiki Analyzer (http://hawaiki.co/hawaiki.analyzer.html which allows you to select a skin tone from your shot and convert it into a swatch), Color Finale, and the vectorscope/skin tone line in FCPX. It is a bit time consuming but that way I can try to avoid green/magenta faces since I cannot trust my eyes. Yep, and even colour-blind me can see the improvement when I tested GX80, G7, LX100 and E-M5II against my son's face and colour charts. All cameras were colour balanced with the expo-disk and used the same lens (except for the LX100 which is fixed). The LX100 still has some weird lips/skin colours going on.

No I don't know how to grade, yes I am colourblind, but wow even I could see that the colours of skin and lips on my LX100 were wrong and it had crazy greens. I always found my olympus cameras to be more natural (although slightly "cool") straight out of camera, but I can also see that my GX80 is much more realistic than my GX7 or LX100. My old G7 was quite good too. I'm not sure how much of it is improvement in Panasonic white balance or what, but I definitely like what I see now. I generally use "natural" when shooting people and I've recently been trying "standard" otherwise for a bit more punch. But as I say, I don't know much about colour, and I am quite frightened of getting it wrong (you should see how I match clothes). Especially for skin tones which even I can tell when they look "off".

Yeah, like up to 140kmph but on this track _only_ about 120kmph I am only shooting at 50fps due to my PAL camera at 1/100 but I'm not sure if that is the right settings. I shot some bobsled today so I have to see how the shots turned out. I maybe should have got the RX10ii for the 150 (180?) fps, but I decided to stay with what I already owned for better or for worse as they wouldn't send me my GH5 early Tomorrow is the finals of skeleton and 4-man bobsled. My brother is sitting 10th in skeleton, so I'm crossing my fingers for him and for me getting any decent shots. I've managed to get a press pass, but it is quite the thing to dodge all the real cameramen (they do an awesome job broadcasting on youtube at https://www.youtube.com/user/bobskeletv) and the press photographers with their massive lenses and monopods (which I really should be using to avoid wobbly-cam with my 35-100/2.8, especially using the ETC... Yeah, I've been trying to watch my histogram and 100% zebras and try to expose to the right. Really hard to remember everything (exposure, composition, getting a clear shot, not getting in the way, staying steady, focus) as fast as things move. I really respect the live camera men/women as they are our there all day in the cold working the shots. Good experience, nice to try something other than filming my kids - without my kids and wife around . Eventually I want to interview my brother and put a story together, but I might have to improve before both interviewing him and getting good enough b-roll next year in the run-up to the olympics...

Thanks for the tips. I was shooting today in the wet snow/rain with my two gx80 @50fps. Been using the Olympus 9-18 and Panasonic 35-100/2.8 with lens hoods to keep spots of the lenses on each of the bodies and my PL15/1.7 for any indoor stuff. I brought along my PL100-400 but have not used it as have relied on 50fps + ETC for any extra reach. I shot about 25GB of video and timelapse and only went through about 2.5 batteries. Need to review the footage now that it is backed up.

Hey @jonpais, thanks for posting this. I was inspired went out today and played with my Olympus 75/1.8. I seldom use the lens (and was thinking of selling it) as I find it difficult to use for moving subjects (like my kids). I also have the 35-100/2.8 which sort of covers the same range with similar compression, but is easier to use due to the zoom. Were you shooting at f/1.8 in this video, and if so are you adjusting the shutter seed to be able to shoot wide open? Today was a sunny February day in the UK (not strong sun) and I was recording some scenes with my 6-stop ND and really could only get to f/2.8-4 exposure when using 1/50 shutter speed. I was also comparing it to my PL15/1.7 which has a much better manual focus feel (and autofocus). The 75mm has a very touchy focus dial. The image is lovely though when I could catch my kids in one place to nail focus.

Yeah, I'm rethinking the GH5+12-60 kit that I have on pre-order. It won't get here in time for the job where I wanted the extra slow-mo, and for what I do I get by with my 2 GX80 and two primes. I've got the Voigtlander 17.5/42.5 as well as the PL15/1.7 and Olympus 75/1.8 for when I need autofocus. I did a shoot with the Olympus 17/1.8 and the 75/1.8 on the old Olympus E-P5 which looked quite good. I do find that sometimes the Olympus 75 is a bit too tight so that was why I'm considering the P42.5 /1.7 which also has OIS. I still like the Panasonic 35-100/2.8 for outdoors events as the stabilisation in video seems to work now with the GX80 (it had bad stutter with OIS only - see my youtube tests). I've also bounced around the idea of using an adapted Tokina 11-16 and Sigma 18-35 for video-only work but that is probably too heavy for the GX80 which already can get uncomfortable when using the Voigtlanders.

I've recently switched to two Panasonic GX80s. For indoor, full manual, more static work I've started using a couple of voigtlander 17.5 and 42.5 lenses that I picked up second hand. I find them a bit front-heavy with the GX80 body and hard on the wrists due to the non-existent grip. The image does look pretty nice though for stills and video and they are lovely to manually focus. I just wish you could punch-in the focus view while recording. Before recording, it is great as I just click the rear wheel and get the magnified focus with peaking. Also the in-body stabilisation works pretty good with those primes. I also have the Panasonic Leica 15/1.7 lens which I love and is always on my camera when I'm going out. I'm thinking of matching it with the P42.5/1.7 for the other body as I mostly use manual focusing, but sometimes I like to "cheat" with the AF-S to lock focus as it can be a challenge with the small EVF. I do own the Panasonic 12-35/2.8 and 35-100/2.8 lenses, but I'm thinking of selling them and getting the new Panasonic Leica 12-60/2.8-4 on a GH5 when it comes out to use as a one-camera outdoor event-type lens. I'm still considering someday upgrading to the PL12/1.4 and the PL42.5/1.2 but I'd probably need to sell off my voigtlanders to fund them. Lots of good choices in M43-land!

Wow, thanks for this. Hopefully this will get me up to speed quickly (at least with setup). I really need to get some practice in with the crane. I subscribed to your channel and really appreciate the shoot breakdowns. The hockey one is really interesting and looks great. I'm sure I will have some questions as I am preparing to shoot some video at the bobsled/skeleton world championships at the end of February (my brother slides for Canada in skeleton).