jonpais

I'm not pointing the finger at anybody, but I'd really love to see the work of some of these folks who say this or that camera is a complete fail because of weak low light performance, slow AF-C, rolling shutter, limited dynamic range, motion cadence, 8-bit 4:2:0, yada yada da. What is most disconcerting for me, as someone who cares more about content than specs, is the amount of garbage I've waded through in the past couple of months watching so many of these beta testers' videos, the most recent offender being Giulio Sciorio's unboxing.

I'd be very interested in seeing some shots of people with the lens.

More interesting to me than the doc itself is the rig he used. The lens lineup is incredible. Hopefully, the X-T3 will have a touch screen, a new sensor and IBIS.

It takes courage to say that the GH5 might be too much. I agree with you, it's way more than I'll ever need, and I'm seriously considering just waiting it out till the fall when Panasonic will undoubtedly release a more wallet-friendly rangefinder version minus some of the bells and whistles. What it will have is anybody's guess, but we've seen Panasonic's flagship features trickle down to their midrange line before - features like 4K, highlight and shadow curves, monochrome live view, and on and on. As well as the other way around, with IBIS. I'd guess Bluetooth, USB-C for file transfers, maybe 4K 60 with no sensor crop, improved EVF and LCD resolution and color fidelity, dual card slots and a whole host of other features will make their way into another Panasonic body before the year is out. Why not just get the G80/85 if you don't need 10-bit and V-log?

I shoot with sharpening set at -4. Absolutely does not add any blur whatsoever.

Not only that, but none of these guys wants to share their focus tests. Even the one where Kai and Dan Chung went filming out in the streets, they edited out all the misses and gave us just a couple minutes of usable footage. And the shots that were in focus could have just as well been done with a GH3, because the subjects they chose were contrasty enough for the system to lock on to. I can't say I'm really disappointed, because I never expected any improvement. What does bother me is that, once again, we've got an absolutely stunning location, but ugly, washed out, oversharpened images (using AE, what the hell!) that could have been shot with an inexpensive camcorder.

But it's more fun to rip on a camera we haven't even used yet. ?

We're not really surprised, are we? I've been saying all along that if AF-C was so good, Panasonic would have thrown a press junket and had photographers shooting track and field events.

There are still only two reviews up at B&H, so I'd wager it's safe to assume the lens isn't flying off the shelves.

I watched some music videos by a friend last night shot on the GH4 and a cheap used 50mm f/1.4 AI lens with a $2.00 Chinese adapter. Stopped down to f/2 or f/2.8, it looked incredible.

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Michael Ma's got one.

actually, the Sigma lens is quite tiny and very light.

I would first try to focus on content and lighting. The G85 already gives a nice look straight out of the camera. Are you going to be screening your work at film festivals and in theaters? Or maybe you have a 65" home theater setup? If you've just begun to use a professional grade NLE, how do you expect to do better than people who've been in this field a long time, like Denver Riddle, et al? Incidentally, concerning color chips, practically every shot I've seen online where someone has shot models or whatever using color chips is either intensely boring, or the colors look like crap, or both. Anyhow, the sensor in the G85 has a limited dynamic range, highlights will clip and so on, so I'd say the whole idea is a pipe dream. Can you show us some of your footage? Perhaps you are over-sharpening the image, shooting in harsh lighting conditions, or maybe your white balance is off, in which case your work will never resemble film anyway. But we can't know that unless we see your work.

What I find interesting is that when I so much as criticize the content and quality over in the GH5 thread, everyone rushes in to defend the work. Lots of newbies signing up to do just that. Maybe it has more to do with my magnetic personality.

The PanLeica 15mm f/1.7, which sells for around $550.00 USD, is neither particularly wide or fast, nor is it an especially great value. Firstly, it costs 60% more than the Sigma. Its resolution pales in comparison to the Sigma, and f/1.7 isn't fast enough to get the shallow depth of field you're after. Edit: You said you wanted a native lens to take advantage of the IS, but Panasonic's wide angles don't have OIS AFAIK, and in any case, the camera's IBIS works with all lenses, regardless of manufacturer.

No color correction or sharpening added in post Settings: ISO 200, Standard Photo Style, Contrast -2, Sharpening -5, NR -5, Saturation at default

My feelings exactly.

Did you turn sharpening down in camera? The clips have a distinctly video look.

You're going to hate me for asking this, but - did you perchance add any sharpening in post?

I trust you implicitly.

I only shot with the Sigma a few times, and I must say, the results were amazing. But this is precisely why I've been recommending fast primes like the Olympus 75mm f/1.8 and Sigma 30mm f/1.4 DC DN - putting APS-C or full frame glass on a tiny body like the GX85 just spoils all the fun of having a compact camera that shoots better video than many of the professional cameras I see crews using here for broadcast television.

Thanks, I just downloaded and installed the firmware update. The noise problem has been fixed. It used to be, whenever I shot video, the neighbors below would hit the ceiling with broomsticks and yell, "your camera sounds like a freight train pulling into the station!" Now, I can live in peace again. haha So I guess they tried to reduce the IBIS noise picked up by the internal microphone, huh? I guess we'll have to wait and see what the internet community thinks...

Video taken down by user. The other videos uploaded by him were all clean looking on Safari, even the Disney one, which was shot at night as well. And I've never experienced that with any other videos on YouTube either, unless they were lifting the shadows too much. So it's not my hate mode this time.

If you can use a smartphone, the G85 will be simple. Which camera are you using now?