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https://nikonrumors.com/2018/08/20/what-if-the-nikon-d3400-gets-replaced-by-a-mirrorless-aps-c-camera-with-f-mount.aspx/ There is this last rumor coming out of nowhere about a future Nikon D3000 (lowest denominator in the Nikon lineup) camera coming soon, still with the traditional Fmount and Mirror Less. I guess if it is not competing branch in the Nikon management/engineers coming out at the same time. I always thought that Nikon would move its consumer APSC line first to Mirrorless, because when you think about it, it is much cheaper to manufacture a Mirrorless camera than a dslr. You add and evf but get rid of the mechanical mirror mechanism, penta-mirror and AF module. You also won't be getting people complaining that the grip is too small, or where the AE button has been removed or that their 30 years old lens doesn't work well on it.

https://nikonrumors.com/2018/08/19/more-nikon-mirrorless-camera-rumors-free-adapter-better-sensor-than-the-d850-shipping-starts-in-november.aspx/ So latest rumors are in. Those are a bit confusing, says adapter more or less free and lens will have some kind of Fresnel making them work faster than their actual Fstop.

I love Tesla and what Elon Musk is doing, but I hate Tesla fanboys like on electrek.co website.

From my own analysis, image resolution for photo and video should never be compared. Yours eyes can analyse a photo for hours if you want, while video is just superposition that moves perpetually. That's why true 2k looks so good in cinema image that are much bigger than any photograph, the first thing as it is moving so fast you cannot scan it (eyes brain) and secondly it is like those smartphone that stack image just move half or quarter pixel and a 12 mp image becomes a 36 etc. Another test is when you look a a freeze frame of a video it looks so much less detailed that when it moves. Latest image (mock up) from a true sample NR cannot show. The 16.9 screen bodes well for Nikon emphasis on video in this new Camera.

So from latest rumor, as I predicted it has a much bigger screen that traditional cameras. It would be at least 4 inch or even bigger which bodes well for video and touch screen use. Since they showed the first video and that it was obvious it had that gigantic mount, I knew they were going completely out of the box. https://nikonrumors.com/2018/08/12/this-is-how-the-back-of-the-nikon-mirrorless-camera-looks.aspx/#more-124550

WOW, I am speechless. So you are still sticking about those old screw lens when 95+ percent of Nikon lens have very fast in body motor. They even have introduce stm lens in there latest DX and one FX that already focus a bit faster in video than there current one. If you think Nikon D5 -D850 autofocus is not very very good, then objectivity is not your strong point, you should replace all these pro sport photographers. That mount will give them two very important advantage compared to the Sony lens mount. For one the sensor will be able to move much more than in the Sony ones that will give much better IBIS. Secondly it will give them the ability to produce much faster lens as the NOCT .95 strongly rummored prime and also the coverage of the sensor will be much more easy to have better edge to edge sharpness, vignetting etc. There will undoubtedly a big fight for the ML cameras, but now Sony won't have a monopoly at all and its market share will stagnate or from what I believe decrease.

Its been at least two decade they have not done screw driver motor lens, their lens have been stellar in optics and focus speed that is why it is used by most pros with Canon. The thing is most Nikon lens in photography are good enough for 4k which is only 8 megapixel. Today's discussion is not if they are good enough for 4k but 45 megapixel monsters like the D850, so we are long gone pass a measly 8 megapixel in Nikon world.

Sorry unless you want all your photo to have motion blur it is far from that easy. What about flash, are you going to carry something like a 300-1000 watt led light with batteries etc when you can have just a speed-light or two. Another misconception about photography, when you have to edit for example a wedding, you have to watch every shot then decide if it is good or bad then cut it t remove unwanted part etc. This is already tedious, not doing it at 24,25 or 30 fps, but one frame at a time, good luck with that.

I personally don't think Nikon is the sharing type, where they have an opportunity that arise every 50 years to sell many more lens than they usually do with the whole Nikon usserbase migrating to the new lens mount. They are taking a risk alienating a lot of their user base who have multiple thousand dollar of Fmount lens that they have acquired sometimes for decade. It is a risk they are taking and I think they want to be rewarded for that. The thing is that I think one of the reason they have taken so much time is to have a good upgrade path trough a very good adapter for existing lens. They cannot come out with flagship Level camera (rumored pricing) with only 3 usable lens.

From the rumors which have been very accurate, there are two camera released with a 45 ff at about 4k with the 24-70 f4 kit lens and Another one in the 24-25 megapixel at 3k with the kit lens. Considering Nikon pricing, that lens would easily cost about $ 800, so putting it at the same as the D850 and the 24 megapixel one near the 2k price of the A73. I think they are going to do a parrallel line and releasing the FF line and at this cost is clearly a statement that they are going for the pro/enthusiast high end market. I think at this stage they don't care about cannibalizing their DSLR line of camera becaue in the end, in the next 10 years they could get so much more money out of these users transitioning to the new mount.

I fact I think it will be complete opposite. Nikon will move much faster to replace its low end apsc line with Mirror less camers for two reasons. The first one is that most of people buying these D5300-D5600 even to the D7000 line of camera only buy it with a kit lens. These people won't be complaining that their 1990 prime lens doesn't meter or autofocus are not working on these cameras. Secondly it is cost and size. I mirror less camera doesn't need a mirror, prim and af module and all the moving mechanism, it adds only a small screen for the EVF. Also thay can go very small size and no one is going to complain that it is too small or not ergonomic etc. My guess is that the D850 and D5 category will have at least one more iteration and a life span of another decade because these users are the one who will be more reluctant to move from the nikon f-mount because they might still want ovf and have multipe thousands in lens. If Nikon doesn't offer at least 10 bit, I think the BMPC 4k will complement the Nikon mirrorless well because these type of work won't need AF and IBIS and super slowmotion.

I personally think they will. They didn't wait that long for nothing and I might seem stupid but I am judging that camera by the look. In fact it is about the size, one of the big problem that have plagued the Sony's has been ergonomic and overheating. This camera seems a bit bigger, which will give better ergonomics and more space for heat dissipation without being as big as a DSLR like the D750. That doesn't mean that they will not introduce much smaller apsc version that will be targeting D5300-D5600 buyers that will want pocket-able cameras. In the end for full frame camera, ultra small size is a bit moot because the FF lens will make big. The second thing also is about size and now it is about the mount size. This thing is so big that my guess is that they will come with IBIS as good as the Panasonic cameras, because the sensor will be able to move much more than the Sony's. The second thing about this big lens mount is that they will be able to do faster unique lens like the patented Noct .95 lens and or easier quality lens as thy won't have to bend the light that much to make it pass through a smaller size mount. The last thing is AF, many people forget that they already had a good on sensor Pdaf system in the Nikon 1 mirroless, even if it was on a much smaller sensor, I think they have progress enought since 2011-2015 to get it good in FF in 2018.

I think all this has been intentional link. There are just too much of them coming out and she apparently is a famous actor in china.

For pro work on the field, I would favor practicality and ergonomic over looks or older design usability style. Now it is just a start I guess there will be smaller more simpler model, more so in the apsc line.

By all account from Nikon Rumors, it will be very close in size and ergonomic to the Panasonic G9.

So that's the latest teaser from Nikon, what it is confirming is that the size of the Mount will be huge, could fit a hasselblad 44x43 mm sensor. But I think this will give is much better IBIS for full frame camera and some unique lens like .95 Noct primes that they have patented. The more I think about this new Nikon Mirrorless Nikon camera is that the saying that Nikon might be late but when they come, they come with a bang. No one was guessing that this new mount would be that big and the more you think about it, the more it looks like a move that will last for another half a century at least. My guess is that Sony will be in big trouble, in this range of Mirrorless cameras and will have to see what Canon comes out next.

There are still more Dslr sold than Mirrorless until now. The thing is Nikon had very very good profit this year with their downsizing and restructuring. In their latest fiscal year they said how the D850 impacted their profit as it was a huge success. Now coming back to the ML line, the more I look into it the more I see big big surprise. For a starter the new lens mount. The thing is gigantic, it is about the same than Fuji medium format. I am not saying that they would release bigger sensor that 35 mm, but that could be a possibility in the future. The most probable use will be for .9 lens or lets say .2 zoom, that would put them in another category. The second thing is a much bigger sensor box where the sensor could move much more with ibis. Imagine a full frame camera with the same quality ibis a gh5 etc. I even think that the rear screen will be bigger than 3.2 from the size which we know now is around d750. (but thinner). What I don't expect unfortunately is 10bit video, 4k 60 fps, log etc.

One doesn't prevent the other to happen, but I think it will be DX format that will be much smaller and for good reason. That demographic you are talking about doesn't care about full frame camera, more so when it is 2k and above. These pocket-able camera market, will be fully satisfied aith a 20-24 megapixel DX camera and a kit lens. Give them a good all round zoom and all automatic function, more so if you have a no fuss dual pixel type autofocus for photo and video. The enthusiast and pro on the other hand will prefer better ergonomic, because as you wil put some serious lens on even the Sony, size of body will be negligible and not pocket-able. In fact the contraty, while most Sony users will have to get some battery grip to comfortably handhold these bigger lens, the Nikon one will be just fine for most of them.

Yep, I don't dispute that logic that smaller sensor will be easier to get higher readout thus higher frame rates etc because of heat for example. But the day the m 4/3 will do 960 fps the FF will do 480 fps, 10 bit vs 12 bit etc, all these will have diminishing returns. Again for photography, M43 is not catching up on FF, even in 3 years I cannot see a 12-14 megapixel M4/3 competing with 24-28 megapixel FF in any way because it will still be very low for photography. The Nikon D850 also has very good apsc video mode, instantly your zoom get 0.5X more. For example with a 24-120 F4 lens, instantly you have a 24-180 F4 lens which would equate to 24-180 F 2.8 or F2 in terms of M43 esthetics. The last thing is AF, will you get it with a speed booster attached. Those are some of the challengers that the M43 cameras will have to face.

I think the CaNikon entry in the full frame and surely Apsc mirrorless camera market will have a big impact on Sony. They where alone in the full frame and most Apsc market, making some Canikon people switch as they had no other alternatives if they wanted full frame mirrorless. Now Sony wont get those switch anymore, secondly they will face formidable opponents who have to my opinion much better ergonomics and image quality (mainly colour science). That Nikon Z mount size might itself be a big problem to Sony, if one or the two theories behind it being to able to launch 0.9 prime lens or that the sensor can move much more for much better IBIS, they might even lose sales from Nikon for example. I am speculating here but Nikon has patented the 0.9 NOCT lens.

The problem with the gh5s is that it is only 10 megapixel. I mean for video it might be fantastic, but for photography it is just too low. In 3 years time max, all the full frame ML cameras from Nikon, Sony and Canon will have at least 60 fps 4k and 10 bit and 120 fps in 1080p. So they will fullfill 99% the need of all users, but they will still retain all the other advantages of full frame camera in term of low light/resolution etc. Exactly, more so that Canon and Nikon will also have a full range of Apsc mirror-less camera that will start like Nikon line of D3300 to D7500. In fact mirrorless cameras are easier and cheaper to do as you have much less mechanical part optics etc. Nowadays you can get a Nikon full frame D750 for about $1600. The Sony A3 and comparable Nikon/Canon bodies will be about same price in two years. It will be a hard sell to sell any M43 cameras at more than 1k.

I just saw that this pelicle mirror adapter patent was done in 2013, so it is quite a long time ago and many things might have changed since then in terms of tech. There surely will have some for of compromise for older lens and I think at least the Nikon d5-d850 will have at least another generation for highend shooters that need crytical Af and will give Nikon a good 5 to 10 years to complete their Nikon Z mount lens lineup.

They had the patent with the pelicle mirror and its own AF module, might be a bit costly. I asked if it was needed as the Canon M50 doesn't have one and use its dual pixel to focus and I was told it didn't work well wit older lens. I think they are prioritizing where they get more money, the price is easily 10%+ before tax in the EU.

Nikon in development press release are always a bit misleading because it always precede the launching date by only one month, happened to the d5, d500, d850. So the cameras, lens and I am sure the adapter is already finalized and ready to go. The only question about the adapter is will it be until what generation of F mount lens will it be compatible. Like will it have screw on motor or not. Nikon knows that the adapter is crucial for it ML camera launch. A good to very good lens adapter will make them jump from last in the class to first in the clas in terms of lens choice.