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[quote name='markm' timestamp='1352108263' post='21046'] I'm wondering if things may have been different if shot at 4k or maybe the prints may have been digital when deliverd to the cinema or a lower standard to save costs. I watched the film at cineworld theatre 2 stevenage. I was disapointed. I also wonder if they made a big mistake ditching film. [/quote] Skyfall: ARRIRAW (2.8K) (source format) Digital Intermediate (4K) (master format) Redcode RAW (5K) (source format) (aerial shots) [b] Printed film format[/b] 35 mm (anamorphic) (Kodak Vision 2383) 70 mm (horizontal) (IMAX blow-up) (Kodak Vision 2383) D-Cinema

[quote name='kirk' timestamp='1352097199' post='21038'] Amusing to see you critisize people who judge the GH3 from preproduction footage with no hands on experience, while declaring the BMCC your favorite before getting one :lol: [/quote] Are you serious? there is no comparison between the two cameras. I will own both, and yeah, I already know which will be my workhorse.

do it in post if you really want a flatter image

I just shoot videos of my cats running around the house so all I need is a BMCC. If I got a real gig then I may look into a GH3.

It's hard to say what is "best" because Canon people will argue canon is better and the same with GH users, Sony and Olympus as well.

inferior in video quality huh? where are you getting your information? the "preproduction" footage being shot on the 12-35?

[quote name='galenb' timestamp='1352058753' post='21008'] This thread is just a discussion. And maybe it's true that it's turned kind of negative. But it's just a discussion. There's no need to get upset that someone is bashing (which no one has actually done) your new favorite camera. [/quote] I like the GH3, but it's not my new favorite. BMCC will get that award.

@sanveer You just made the most ignorant post I've ever had to read. I'm not taking away your rights to discuss cameras/gear. But it is dumb for you to think you know it all based on others "opinions" and half truths of a preproduction camera. I don't know where you live or who you do business with, but I will not purchase camera/gear with a money back guarantee and I suggest you do the same. I don't care how you go about your test, but like I said, there isn't a rental or camera shop where I live and the only way I like to decide is with my own hands on experience, not some douche filming his cat. I guess by ordering anything I want and returning it is a possible free 30 day rental? Please due continue your discussion based on preproduction YouTube videos, I don't want you to feel like I'm taking your right, how do you test over the Internet what footage looks like blown up on a projector or TV, which I like to do both. Yeah, you can say hook a PC up, but then how do you know if the person used the best possible export settings?

@galenb I didn't even read your post, because the GH3 footage we have seen is preproduction, come make a big long post about it when everybody is posting footage left and right on youtube and vimeo. you are either going to buy the camera and test it for yourself, keep it or send it back. if you do not plan on buying the camera based on what you have seen "so far", there is nothing left to talk about.

[quote name='Germy1979' timestamp='1351966671' post='20970'] [url="https://vimeo.com/52019304"]https://vimeo.com/52019304[/url] If you haven't seen this, have a look. It's not here. [/quote] or here lol https://vimeo.com/49420579

I like to find solutions to problems, this may be one? This may not work with GH3, just found the video and thought I would share. seems to work well with Canon [url="https://vimeo.com/41491834#at=83"]https://vimeo.com/41491834#at=83[/url] or maybe this? [url="http://colorbyjorg.wordpress.com/plugins/"]http://colorbyjorg.w...ss.com/plugins/[/url] <-- for FCX only

The way I see it, if you really want to know what you think about the camera, you need to just buy it. If you like it, keep it, if you don't like it, then send it back. Where I live there is no camera store/rental, so if I really want to test a product, I have to order it and see for myself rather than make an assumption from a youtube video. But if moire & aliasing is the biggest complaint, Like Germ said, we need to know why some videos have it, and some don't.

A lot of assumptions being made about a camera that people have only seen preproduction footage from. The moire issue is still unknown why some videos have it, why some don't, maybe 12-35, maybe early firmware? Like i've always said, I'm not going to go out looking to shoot things in my videos that will show moire. @Axel, the thing is...without a doubt, the GH3 is a better camera than the GH2, if a person decides not to upgrade, then they will be using the lesser of the two cameras, if that's all a persons budget will allow, then so be it, make the best of what you got, even if you are using a GH1. Canon is usually the choice camera when it comes to photos, but I don't think we are concerned with photo quality when it comes to any GH, the real question is, Can the GH3 be hacked? and if so what will it unleash. MFT is hardly a dead end and I don't see it going anywhere except up. And yeah, I love the GH2 and the GH3, they are amazing cameras for the price and wide variety of lenses. If I plan on just walking out the door and just messing around it's what I'm going to grab. If I have a professional gig I'm going to use my BMCC (when it ever arrives) or I am going to rent a camera. People seem picky or spoiled by technology and must have forgotten what consumer cameras were limited to 5-10 years ago. Do people really go out looking for objects that will cause moire in their footage? If so, they need to stop focusing on flaws, and focus on creativity.

I am with germ on flowmotion, I thought it would be the last patch I use as well, but I have jumped ship on it. There is only so much you can do with the GH2, and sedna is the best way to get all of the "only so much" out of it. Flowmotion is still a good patch, and Lpowell is currently working on a new version, I'm guessing FM 3.0?, that hopefully will address some of the issues I have with it.

The people trying to come up with things the GH3 is lacking is really just trying to convince their self they have no need to upgrade from GH2. If you are a real fan of the GH2, how can you NOT love the GH3, for the most part they have kept the same monster in a tiny box with the addition of all the features the GH2 was missing to make it some what a semi-pro camera. You get what you pay for people, as with anything, if you look hard enough you will find flaws. If you want a perfect camera, rent a RED or take out a loan for an Alexa. As far as the price and the improvements made from the GH2, I couldn't be happier.

is this the af100 replacement?

I will probably buy a c500 or c300 in about 10 years when they are considered vintage. it will be like buying an old 8mm or 16mm today I guess.

new mercedes or f55......hmmmmmmmmmmm

If they was smart they would drop the C1000 down to $3 or 4k to compete with the BMCC

I use it with sony vegas and I love it. I'm not sure how it compares to warp stabilizer or the one built into resolve. I notice that I have better results when I use their intended preset. I've never had any sound issues with it

Read your original post, and think of Walmart, and see if what you are saying makes any sense. Good luck

Lol You are taking life wayyyy to serious. How do you know that I don't already have money and the fact that I am content doing something I love to do more so than try and pinch every penny I can get out of somebody. Did you skip over the part where I mentioned "independent"? If I was hired by a company to do their video/editing task, they would be in charge of the greedy side of things. I can make my own price and my own hours, and by choice, I try to undercut the competition. I may get paid less, but more gigs, so compound that mr. Economics. You are trying to put me in the same category as a major corporation that is selling products by the millions, and is by far the dumbest post you have made yet. Does it really bother you THAT much that you can't control people's freedom of speech over the Internet? Do you not have anything better to do than pretend to sound smart and troll forums all day?

A. I am an independent videographer/editor, so like I said, I work within a clients budget B. Your first post was a complaint about whiners C. You ARE in fact whining about whiners. D. Canon was my reference, I like Canon products, their nicer line of gear is aimed towards people working with a larger budget. E. Not one person here has agreed with one post you have made. I'm still trying to understand how your #5 makes sense. If you don't mind sharing, (and I could really care less if you answer) how old are you? I would like to have a better understanding of what level of maturity I am dealing with. I'm guessing I pinched a nerve with the "move along now" comment. lol Andrew, feel free to close this topic when you are ready, this got old two days ago. lol

tomekk you have made 12 post here and you are claiming "everybody on eos forums whine" like I said, this is one of the more peaceful camera discussion forums on the internet you have put your complaint in the suggestion box, and it has been answered. the answer is that nobody here cares about you whining about whiners. move along now, thanks.

There is a difference between not caring about whiners and defending them. If you are curious of a products quality, buy it for yourself and develop your own opinion. Of course the Internet is full of whiners, they've always been here and I don't expect them to just up and disappear anytime soon. Everybody you come across doesn't think canon sucks. Every camera has it's pros and cons obviously. I'm getting the impression that you are attempting to be a troll. Trolls will troll, whiners will whine, welcome to the Internet!