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I'd like to know more. I'm still flying the p4pro too, but I'm ready for something that has more dynamic range (and a bit more stability: I found my little mavic a better platform for drone timelapses than the p4.)

Agree! I don't really fancy much of what's on offer. I'd think about getting a video only cam, but the blackmagic is M/3 or bloody eos mount. The z-cam has similar caveats. AN d besides I dont mind being pampered now and then with an auto mode that actually works. Or Ibis. Or autofocus. Oy vey! I think I better think it out again

its funny how the name of the thing shapes your expectations. I would have cut them way more slack if they'd given it the s moniker. Or called it the z6 and a half.

yep i was saying this was nikon's last attempt to keep me. HAving said that I'm editing some footage at the mo, and it's lovely, and very easy to work with, but there is too much that is amateurish with these cameras. If they'd given me full frame 60p I might even have hung around in 8bit. But no 10 bit internal? get futtocky fucked. And "planned for february": weasels. THe promised external raw was a mess. Nope, bugger 'em

someone in the nikonrumors comments said the sensor can only do 40hz in full frame. Not sure if this is true but if so, rules out 4k 60 FF. I agree, they shouldn't give it the ii moniker if its a minor update. Urgh!

uh I didn't think of that. That's just the sort of bullshit nikon would do.

*Hellios 44-2. Virtuallu no swirly bokeh though, so I guess its a new variant. After googling for an hour or so I now want a helios 40 😄

I've got the nikkor 50mm f1.2, this has a bendy field curvature and slightly swirly bokeh. I've also got a helios 50, but I prefer the nikkor. I'll google those others, thanks 🙂 So the sweet 35 with the composer pro is on sale for $350 AUD - about $100 off. (About $260 usd). $100AUD more for the edge 35 (which is a bummer because that would be my preferred one of the 2). Its tempting, especially as the cheapest z tilt shift adaptor I can find is $250

I love playing with charactful lenses, but can't decide if that lensbaby look has passed it's sell by date 😄 Its on sale in aus. 🤔

yep no good for me, I've got nikon glass on nikon bodies, and i want to keep my lens control ANyhoo, I ordered a cheapish ND, some bizzarely cheap Nds to practice on and a glass cutter. I have seem someone saying that gel NDs dont give focus issues, which might be OK, but havent been able to find any. (Or at least not for sensible amounts of money). I wonder if the location of the ND makes a difference to the focus issues? Is it better to be close to the sensor, or close to the lens?

how hard can it be? i know theres a company that makes them, but not for my z-6. i guess id' need to cut a rectangle out of a filter. is this a terrible idea? 😄

i think the cheap non-hybrid cameras are worth thinking about simply because they are literally thought about: they factor into equipment plans when a hybrid costs more than an alternative stills camera + a blackmagic or a z-cam. If the point of the list is to give folk the breadth of kit to consider when planning what kit they need, if they can think about a $10 hybrid, they can think about a $3k stills, plus a $7k cinema camera

That is awesome. 😁. Aren't $4000 cameras that you have to hack just to get them to do what it says on the tin brilliant? 😉

If there was a way to feed the correct time and date, and saved settings back to the camera that would be niiiiiiiiicer

Nay! They'll find something that future us's can't live without. 16 stops of dynamic range or vastly more efficient codec are 2 obvious ones. Metamaterial lenses, 16k VR, allowing reframing, lightfield capture....

Someone asked what we were pissed off about. For me it's mega corporations screwing the little people. Originally I thought the record limits were ok: it's only physics - if the small size of the camera means the heat creates a natural segmentation to their cinema cameras: fair enough. But the level of douchbaggery to cynically scupper it's abilities. Urgh fuck you Canon and your little dog too. The reason it overheats in stills mode is presumably because it overheats when connected to an external recorder: in other words if someone can record without the camera knowing it's being recorded then the cripple timer must time at all times. Someone at canon is very paranoid that somebody will find a way to use it as a cinema camera. I'd they had just built in time limits like Nikon do, it would sit better.

In Australia a federal mp funnelled millions of dollars of tax payers money into an offshore company via selling water rights for a piece of land that gets no water. Mainstream media: tumbleweeds. The only way this will hit the news will be if either someone sues cannon or badgers a consumer rights department enough to do something. Also Choice might have a look.

Hey just had an idea: If pulling the button battery resets the cripple clock is it possible that canon are using the user-set time as their reference. In other words what happens if you record 14 mins 8k, then set the clock back 14 mins. Do you get your 14 mins back? Wouldn't that be hilarious (unlikely but) 🙂

Would love to know what happens if you stop recording at 14 mins, pull the battery and swap the card. Writing cripple info to the card ties in with people getting longer record times when using external recorders doesn't it? The other possibility is that after every 8k clip is finished it's writing to nvram. If you can only record a handful of 8k clips per day, it never likely to ware out the nvram. Yep its totally insane that you're having to do this to a $4000 camera. On the other hand I can't think of a better way to flip canon the bird than finding a hack for it 😆

Does the camera have any kind of hard reset that could reset the cripple timers?

I think we need to compare settings and bodies. Mine is so far away from being excellent it's not funny.

I shoot with the z6 every week. I can tell you that much improved or not, the autofocus is not good enough to use. I just did a shoot: 6 takes with presenter moving from wide shot to medium close up and none tracked focus property, and when it missed it focussed on the background. Tracking objects equally hit and miss. But hey I hear you on the feel of the footage. I owned and sold a gh5 partly for the same reason. A much more usable camera for video, but with worse results (at least for what I do). I seem to have a thing for buying cameras with shite af. I'm starting to get jobs that require it, so for me the z6ii is a make or break for me and nikon.

Agree. The z6 is nearly this. But the af is totally amateurish, as is the codec. Add to your list 15ms readout. (And 13.5 stops dynamic range in stills minimum)

A cynic might think that they dont want to release it in the middle of summer 🤔😆 We'll know for sure if they start appearing in stores over ere in Australia.

I did tests too when I first got my d800 I found a small difference in the highlight dynamic range it was just enough to make the difference between being able to pull back some blue sky in some shots. (For me this means interiors where the unprocessed raw interior is literally black and the exterior sky is white. A single 14 bit raw file could produce a perfectly usable image 12 bit could not. Yes these are extreme examples for most users, but for me was business as usual. I could shoot interiors without flash or bracketing. I can't do that on the z6. 16 bit raw video offers absurd possibilities for my work if it was truly raw.