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38 minutes ago, gt3rs said:

Naturally sharpening a screen grab from a youtube video is not the best idea because you end up sharpening the compression artifacts too.

 

LOL Definitely, quote of this thread!

My vote is on Mavic. Purchase, as well :-)

GoPro is the most horrid camera even before the Lumière brothers did their presentation!

No Protune saves the grace or its absence in pallid colors all the same from one side of spectrum to the other extreme. No idea why people dare to shoot on it other than personal stuff and a few shots as inserts when the magical hour cheats all of us...

9 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

All these action cameras are really bad comparing with even all these cheap mirrorless we are getting these days. They have to step up their game somehow (bigger sensor perhaps?). 

For amateurs, Mavic seems just fine (or amazing, depending one's perspective), for low budget semi-pro work, I guess GoPro offers better, and well tested image+a whole system to play with (gymbal, camera).

It seems that everyone has a drone for whatever production (weddings, to corporates, documentaries, hobbies, everything).

I am surely tempted to get one for the low budget jobs, but honestly, I would always prefer a specialist to come to do the job with an Inspire and a better than those cameras. Less money for me, but I am against the "do-it-all" approach of the 21st century (and the still going on financial crisis). I truly respect these kind of people, and I do the same to some degree, but sales-production-script-direction-camera-lighting-sound-editing-post production, is too much for one person to add to everything else. For not extremely low budget jobs I would prefer a 3 persons team, and probably drone/musician/After Effects small jobs.. and I am not a communist!

Does anyone know how the Sony X3000 compares to those in image quality? And is any other competitive drone around 1300$?

Andrew, your forum software should let us for multiple 'push the like button'... ;-)

There is... Interested people in such drone ready to fly, send me a private message... I guess me and my team we'll be able to supply to you one of those birds very soon :-)

I am hopeful on this toy... seems guaranteed fun. Only compression artifacts can bring me some concern. Other than that seems interesting to my eyes. 4K is more than enough. I guess soft 4K won't hurt :-) 

IQ is not only definition. I've fairly liked the Mavic outcome much more.

Actually, GoPro has always seemed to my eyes either too crispy or mushy because of compression, low color sampling and so on.

55 minutes ago, Luke Mason said:

4K @ 60Mbps is not good at all, DJI should give an option of selectable bitrate from low to high 100-200Mbps

Well said.

7 hours ago, Fredrik Lyhne said:

Is it just me or is the footage of the Karma launch video looking a whole lot better than the Mavic video? 

Be honest, bud. Your eye focus the chicks... ;-)

22 minutes ago, gatopardo said:

Something like the LS300 Virtual Scan Mapping function would be great.

We can't know what's going there. Perhaps Luke could add anything on topic : P In any case, this announcement has already been a case study for marketeers. Their marketing à la RED will sell loads of pre-orders, at least in lots of minds here and everywhere.

RED born on dvxuser. The camera (DVX100) had been a hit. More than a decade ago, but already in plain digital age. Seems Panasonic guys haven't forget one of their best lessons. The fact is also here now, in this blog, is curious and funny at same time. Canon reps look like they don't give a damn but the other fact is, who has stolen the thunder, after all? The day before 5DIV hit the streets... Let alone the specs announced versus the gospel/reality according to Canon : D

47 minutes ago, marcuswolschon said:

Yes, that's why I said 4/3" 4:3 as image circle and aspect ratio together define the size of a rectangular sensor.

A rectangular sensor closer to a square than 16:9, without mention going with anamorphic.

My friend, in the same way my semantics didn't serve to you, yours follows very well represented in that example : ) Funny, in the end, your post ended to apply a similar principle, hence to claim correction to be fair with each other ;-)

4:3 is for that as same as 1.33 TV format when TV sets used that aspect ratio or jumping to the photography example, the famous 15x10 and so on. Maybe that's me but I always set the camera to the 16:9 format instead, photos included. Now seems there'll be a 2:1 ratio in the welcome 6K photo mode, isn't it? So, here we go even less squared than ever! :X

When we want to be literal or rigid, we risk to be confronted with our own side and our own fragilities; especially if we're just expecting the flow may occur only in one way and not the other way round :-)

11 minutes ago, marcuswolschon said:

Micro 4/3 is not a sensor size.

It's a lens mount.

4/3" is an image circle size.

4/3"  4:3 is a sensor size.

Yes and no. In the same way, it happens with other formats, there's a sensor size for 4/3" format. Better now? ; ) To say that's related to the sensor size which is measured in mm means to be related to the sensor size used by the 4/3" format. Actually, some of these formats, as for instance, 4/3", 2/3", 1/2", 1/3", 1/4" are based on the 1" as reference unit instead. 

On the other hand, 4:3 is not a sensor size but the sensor aspect ratio :-)

Maybe that's nothing related to the sensor size, 4/3" anyway. But, the way they will implement the anamorphic in-camera. Intriguing and promising indeed.

Hey Luke, now your "like" button has puzzled me. What the hell APS-C is doing right there? And the whole 4/3" format glass thing?!

Ain't you under NDA on GH5 development??

Will the new glass add-ons be S35??!

7 minutes ago, marcuswolschon said:

No, if they have a 30min limit I'll wait until they release a GH5R or skip the "5" generation.

If they don't include V-Log, I'll wait until they got pressured into including it right away.

Right. Be free to wait. Who knows they will be susceptible to your claim, yeah, who knows?

V-Log makes more sense addressed to 10-bit, anyways.

58 minutes ago, marcuswolschon said:

I'll preorder the GH5 if and only if it has been no 30min limit and V-Log is included.

So, if they will add 100 bucks to the premium, you'll say NO to 10-bit 4:2:2 and 4K/60p for $1,500 or so because $1,600 would be too much, isn't it? ;-)

30 minutes ago, Rinad Amir said:

Atomos has 4k60p recorder

But, HDMI output requires to be 4K/60p accordingly...

4 minutes ago, webrunner5 said:

Well I know it is not a Sony FS 55 lol, but the new GoPro Karma is not too shabby for the cost. https://shop.gopro.com/karma

Everything GoPro IQ related is simply to forget. Apples to oranges :-)

1 hour ago, webrunner5 said:

I know this is a GH4 thingy, but anyone see this video about Panasonic getting into Gimbals and GH4 Drone cameras?http://www.newsshooter.com/2016/09/24/photokina-2016-panasonic-prototype-gh4-4k-drone-camera/

Pity only within a year... Other than the most expensive DJI, we only have these ones right now:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1203955-REG/z_camera_e1cam3a701_e1_mini_4k_video.html
https://***URL removed***/reviews/yi-m1-mirrorless-ilc-first-impressions-review/2
 

39 minutes ago, omega1978 said:

i have had in hand the em1 II yesterday on Photokina with the 12-100.stabilization is impressiv even on 100 mm.the AF with face detection works strange with very harsh transition

So, good and bad news at same time.

Have you noticed the AF hunting or just not smooth at all?

Did you notice if there would be any sort of eventual AF setting in order to slow down the transition?

Any word on availability?

33 minutes ago, fuzzynormal said:

3 second equals 180 frames.  180 frames is 7.5 seconds when conformed to 24fps, so, hey, useful for some stuff.  Personally, I wouldn't be bassing a purchase around RAW burst mode, just saying it would be fun to have and I could see utilizing it if it was there.

Hey, 7.5 seconds might already be something! It is slowmotion, don't forget. Don't recall those boring Vimeo clips to mimic Hollywood where minutes can last hours in endless pieces taken by your mind. To compete with the usual stuff of cats, dogs, babies or flowers, when not the dull girlfriend to show up the shooter knows how to give us the core of shallow DOF.

It doesn't make any sense. They see Westerners in a very deceptive business way. This doesn't happen with Japanese brands, I see. Shame to them.

31 minutes ago, fuzzynormal said:

Yeah, we'll see about that.  If two really fast SD cards are used and we can squeeze out 3 or 4 or 5 seconds with a minimal delay to the next burst, then it could be a very useable tool.  There are numerous way that would be helpful, even for me, a guy that does mostly doc stuff.

Nothing to do but to wait and see what the reality is when it hits the streets.

Are you already multiplying by 2.5x (conformed to 24p)? If not, hard to believe they will give you a chance for useful 8-12 seconds @5K RAW (moreover, slowmotion!) for a grand. That would really be the craziest bang for the buck ever seen... XD

8 minutes ago, mercer said:

They already have it listed on eBay for preorder, so you may get a quick reply if you ask there. 

I couldn't find it because of my location, very likely. Can you post the link please?

18 minutes ago, fuzzynormal said:

Actually, when you consider it, people have also, and often, made feature films using still cameras.

You're quoting yourself now... LOL Nevermind. Take a look on this masterpiece (Still Life by Stephen van Vuuren):

Shot on Pentax K10d. Stills mode.

1 hour ago, ntblowz said:

60P RAW can shoot more than 1seconds!

Are you sure? From where have you had this information? For the subject matter, I am used to be pessimist by nature...

58 minutes ago, fuzzynormal said:

Aren't all cameras that capture motion picture images capable of this?

The more I find your posts, the more I like them :-)

Unfortunately or maybe not ; ) some cameras are better than other ones, though : D

1 hour ago, mkabi said:

I think its a typo in DPReview's spec page. 

If you go to the 3rd page where they have an image of the video menu & a little excerpt about video (below the image) - I don't see DCI.

And, as for your actual statement "Yes, as far as they say. So, 24p, if present, would be higher." May be I'm going by semantics here, but to include "if" means there is an actual possibility... Well.. I dont' see it... and what I don't see, doesn't exist so no possibility... no if...

Unless the company said that they will include it in a future firmware update. Do you have a source for that?

I know nothing : D I just think they could and should be more competent on their own stuff... Especially related to others :-)