Eric Calabros

1 hour ago, hojomo said:

going to be able to be read much faster, offer 4K/120 FF

That needs 8ms read out speed, which is in stacked territory. I'm not saying its impossible, but very unlikely.

22 minutes ago, D Verco said:

it'd be disappointing if it's not a big step up from the z6ii or even Zf. 

If rumors are based on the real thing, body and controls will be a big step up. The problem they always have is the sensor. A new sensor, that will be only used in one body, would be very expensive, since volume is not that much. Hence the shared sensor between Z9 and Z8. Unless they find another high volume use for that new sensor. 

7 hours ago, hojomo said:

A lot of the guts are likely to be the same as Zf; and the second full-size slot is a safe bet. Maybe they would also go CFExpress 2nd slot/4k 120p to make a more compelling video hybrid.

Nikon is always conservative in specs, and they never do double jumps like 4k30 to 4k120p. 

Ok we got the first sign of the hammer working, in new set of rumored spec: no 6k raw, at least internally 

24.5 million pixels sensor

Duo EXPEED 7 processors

ISO 100-64,000

9 subjects detection AF（same as Z9）

310 single-point AF

IBIS

6k30p, 4k120p N-Log/HLG internal video recording

CFepress-B/XQC+SD card

No N-Raw

Better cooling design

Something is lost in translation in that "Duo" word. 

There are more stubborn seniors in their professional/broadcast business. May god help the consumer Imaging department. 

12 hours ago, Evgeniy85 said:

I'm hoping for N-Log2. It's time

Whats the point of wider profile when read out is still done at 12bit? 

They can increase the resolution of Z7 to something like 90MP. But very few people need or want that resolution. Its good for two weeks of frenzy press-review YouTube videos with 😱 thumbnails, but I doubt it sells well long term. 

I hope Nikon doesn't use cripple hammer of its own on this one

A fast non stacked 6k sensor that doesn't show noise downsides of stacked, plus internal raw, with Zf IBIS, and Z8 AF, in a semi pro body, will be dream camera for many who can't afford $4k-6k flagships. Actually you can have two of this with the price of one Z9, if you don't need 8k. 

20 hours ago, kye said:

The key difference is that OIS and IBIS will stabilise during the exposure, and digital IS stabilises afterwards

The problem with IBIS is they're made for still as a priority. Nikon optical VR+IBIS is so good in still shooting that looks like cheating. But video, especially walking situation, is totally different story. 

1 hour ago, gt3rs said:

Maybe more flashes will optimize for shorter duration something that there was no need until GS.

There are some physics involved about how shorter it can be. Most flash brands don't even report t0.1 number in their spec sheet, they know it doesn't look good. 

12 hours ago, Davide DB said:

Where did you get this info?

This test shows it sync at any speed:

https://www.cameralabs.com/sony-a9-iii-review/#:~:text=While most modern cameras have,shutter speed of 1%2F80000.

 

Its flash on hot shoe. Using any wireless system limits the speed to 1/500s.

1 hour ago, ade towell said:

That all sounds great

IF TRUE.

This rumor is weird. Its like a wishlist by someone who saw A9III commercials, and at the same time its like the source knows the limitations of the Z9 sensor. Its like the guy is half troll half legit. 

At that bulk and weight level, why not use an APSC camera? 

Making houses with wood was also based on limitations in other construction materials at the time, as they were either hard to supply or supplied expensively. Today there is almost no limitations and concrete is cheap, but wood is still prefered because its environment friendly. Just because something is old, it doesn't mean it will be replaced with the new. 24p became a standard because it was the cheapest way to do motion picture. But it also replicates dreaming. I don't know about you by my dreams look like anything other than what I see on ESPN.

Thanks to you guys I don't click on YouTube links to consume 15 minutes of bad journalism. I'm deeply grateful. 

Its was not like they host those videos and can't pay the bills. Maybe was about copyright issues. For any reason its ridiculous to delete a part of history overnight like its your draft folder. 

2 hours ago, Davide DB said:

Without seeing the upper part, it's hard.

You don't need the upper part, its A7siii. 

14 hours ago, Kino said:

It's more that I'm disappointed that Sony didn't shoot the video with the A9III exclusively, as they did with the Sony A1 promos.

How they're supposed to shoot a PR video with a camera that is not in production yet? 

On 11/8/2023 at 2:48 PM, Django said:

do have a question for Z8/Z9/Nikon users: does the camera have custom banks like C1/C2/C3 etc where you can have various custom settings like codec/frame rate/resolution settings and recall them quickly?

As a Nikon user you really need to follow these two men on YouTube: Hudson Henry and Steve Perry. They're wildlife photographers 99% of the time, and don't shoot video a lot, but they have a tone of info to offer about how your camera works. 

ISO 12800 images looks like shot by a 50mp sensor, not a 24mp one. However these are still raws. Noise impact in video will be worse due to heat.

36 minutes ago, kye said:

If you'd have read the article then you'd know that he triggered the camera manually and took around 720,000 exposures to eventually get the perfect shot,

I read the article when it was published. The whole story is a practical evidence for the fact that High Turbo Super Burst, is not a solution.

3 minutes ago, eatstoomuchjam said:

- Shooting handheld in general unless you're as steady as a tripod (with 20+ms of RS, the jello is almost always noticeable)
- Shooting fast-moving subjects, especially from the side (trains, cars, etc)
- Mounting the camera to a car (improved with gimbal for RS, but still noticeable)

Please show a footage from any of these examples, shot by Venice 2 or even Z9/Z8 or even A1, that shows RS distortion. 

1 minute ago, kye said:

This photo and the story behind it comes to mind:

The shutter speed in that shot is very high. Lets say you need 1/8000s to freeze such a movement. Even at 120 fps, you get only 120/8000 of a second, or 1/60 of a second. For 59/60 of a second, your camera is blind. Still its YOU that should know when to press the shutter button.

32 minutes ago, Ilkka Nissila said:

Phone cameras get away with a lot of stuff

I think newer AI tech is adding stuff to the data. Its like tracing the moving part, and "guess" how it would look like if it weren't where it is. 

3 minutes ago, sanveer said:

Sony will probably put in the next version of the Venice and price it similarly to the new Alexa35. Even with the reduced dynamic range. 

Whats the "real" benefit for cinematography? With conventional stacked sensor, there is no distortion even in wild panning, like Venice 2 with its 3ms read out speed. Alexa35 has "useable" 15 stop of DR. Thats where DPs see the benefit.