Andrew Reid

I could have made that box. All I need is, erm... a box! Buy the Ninja and the lenses, suddenly I am Nikon! They must be so proud of themselves. By the way the lenses are their cheapest primes in the whole Nikon line-up and they haven't got focus gears, but hey... filmmakers don't need more than that right!?

Well you see from my test what you see, so it's up to you who you believe! *** What about resolution? $1500 vs $15000, not bad is it!? Or do you think the C300 is way ahead on that too!?

Try exposing to protect the highlights a little more, and pushing the blacks up to +10 with Master Black Level and the contrast -5 in Gamma DR, don't go lower as it will start messing colour up. I still think dynamic range is in line with the others. It's very usable.

​In many ways it's the spiritual successor to the GH1. Been a while since I could say that a tiny mirrorless camera could not just keep pace with a $15,000 cinema camera, but outright beat it on image quality overall.

Brian, given your own eyes have moire, it's going to be there on the camera in some situations. Laws of physics, and all that. When you look at the file to check for moire, make sure you look at it 1:1 because 4K material scaled to fit a 1080p is going to moire worse, it is completely at the mercy of the video player or NLE scaling method.

Jimmy, the C300 image came off the card in Rec.709 then I adjusted the NX1 in-camera to match. Neither had any grading. So no, I didn't cripple the C300 to look like a NX1 as you suggested! I really don't see how you can not say the NX1 is a match for dynamic range judging from those shots. Barely half a stop in the bulb it is giving away. Come on dude. Wake up.

​Coming soon. New firmware is great! But wait till you see what is in store for the GH4 ;)

No moire in 4K on the NX1.

The Canon C300 (currently reduced to $11,500) was the $15,000 stalwart of the professional videographer, only recently did it have a compelling rival - the Sony FS7. The Samsung NX1 is essentially a cutting edge 4K Super 35mm sensor in a mirrorless camera, recently given a video oriented firmware update which improves dynamic range and the available image profiles. I was curious to see how the images from these cameras compared and I put my Canon 1D C into the mix as well. Read the full article

Magic Lantern proved this, they are upscaled from a lower resolution and not only that but heavily line-skipped on the sensor. If you want better you need to go considerably higher up the Canon line, ideally to the $5500 C100 Mk II, or shoot raw with the 5D Mark III and Magic Lantern (with resulting huge file sizes). So don't use a Rebel for video, they're really not fit for purpose. There's so much great YouTube content let down by it - mushy, false detail. If only they had listened to EOSHD and shot GH2 / 3 / 4.

It's the lack of innovation that really gets my goat. Stick a different sensor in the 5D Mark III, 3 years later.... erm that's about it.

It's a LUT test.

The reality is that how the camera responds to grading is what matters, not what the default Rec 709 LUT looks like. You can use a different one. It would turn a test like this on its head. Pros grade their footage and tweak skintones! That's reality. It's a huge variable. I have struggled with this dilemma in my own camera tests. In doing an A/B shot test I tend to try and match them as close as possible. But it always comes back to hardware aspects like dynamic range, noise, sensor size, rolling shutter, etc. The 4K cameras are much easier to match in the grade because you have more data to work with especially on the FS7 and Amira. Like I say, use a different 'default workflow' like in real life, and you could match these as close as makes no difference, but I am sure the Amira's image has some advantages not revealed by this test.

​Yeah not like your posts at all! No! Messiah!!?

Another grading test not a camera test. If the Arri Rec 709 LUT has an 'orange feel' it's easy enough to fix that!

Me too, but I've been told to let the conversation flow 'organically' so I'm going to stay out of it this time.

Haha. Flickr is a photo site! It's like gauging the size of the fast food market by looking at the number of McDonalds in Afghanistan!

Cinema EOS line still has no 4K under $8k and no consumer / enthusiast model. Pretty glaring holes there that DSLRs fill perfectly, well mirrorless. None of them by Canon! So do go into more details why you think that's a good decsion. I have no problem with Cinema EOS being a separate video line, but it's not very interesting. The C100 and C300 were always going to be like the video professional's office tools. The Canon copiers of the cinema world, not really cinema cameras.

​This is a good point, but like the image film gives this too can be simulated with digital by placing artificial constraints on the amount of media available and how long it takes to load it.

Why your AF fan boyism relevant to video, I will never know. This is a filmmaking site, not a Canon arse licking site. Be thankful you have people working hard to give you the facts about the 5Ds for video so you can say things in blocked capitals simply repeating what I said on the blog.

​Most C300 owners don't want raw though, they need a fast turn around and an edit ready codec, also to pass files easily in a compatible way between lots of various monkeys. I think the C300 will be getting a very incremental update... better EVF and screen, ergonomic improvements, definitely higher frame rates and only if we're lucky 4K internal (it has to compete with the FS7). C500 on the other hand could be repositioned as a real beast to rival the Alexa. Or maybe they will do the utterly boring approach of... C300 Mk II 1080p, few tiny changes and 60p C500 4K internal, erm that's it. Wouldn't surprise me. This is what Canon seems to do when they have a success on their hands... freeze it in time!

So bumping isn't needed I am going to pin both the FM and Rectilux threads. Let's try and coexist and not fight. Virtues of product have to win here and people need to be sensibly informed. Cosimo please do keep us up-to-date with the FM in the sticky! And you're welcome to do the same here John. PS - My FM demo unit arrived and just about to get stuck in. Looks well built!

​Can you elaborate? Would be interesting to hear how they differ.

Canon seem to be getting by on minimal innovation though... Stick a big megapixel count sensor in the 5D Mark III.... barely change anything.... but it looks like a big change because of the huge headline spec shouting 50MP!! Stick an EOS M 3 out there, but don't bother selling it in the US and base the body design on the horrible G1X Mark II. What's the point? Chasing sales figures I suppose. Let's see what happens at NAB. Probably can't afford what happens at NAB but let's see anyway