Andrew Reid

Call it sympathy for the devil, but I am going to defend the M50 here... The 4K quality looks same as 5D Mark IV. And the 1D C is comparatively 'soft' as well. I don't mind it when the digital sharpness of 4K is turned down. In 1080p, it was a problem. In 4K, nope, I'm fine thanks for detail and don't mind it turned down a notch. The moire issue... Probably very minor in real world conditions outside a chart. The M50 is probably (on a technical level) the weakest debut of 4K video on a consumer camera... The specs are total shit vs Panasonic, Sony and Fujifilm. However the 2.7x crop is exactly Super 16. And you can adapt c-mount glass to it... So look at it this way... As a cheap alternative to the digital bolex with nice Canon colour, EOS C-LOG and other Picture Profiles Cheaper than M5 with better articulated screen, same res EVF Super 16mm 4K video with Canon skintones A way to make use of all those lovely Super 16mm lenses (including the wide ones) without the vignetting you get on Micro Four Thirds It's cheap Great stills and Dual Pixel AF for stills... That 22mm pancake is quite nice too. And you can adapt EF glass to it. So yes... Competitively speaking, it's a shit camera. But it's cheap. And it could accidentally be a nice Super 16 creative cam....

My opinion is a bit speculative but here it is anyway... HDMI is too limited, but there are some cameras with USB C now that could get a trivial firmware update to dump the buffer RAM raw frames to a USB C SSD drive like the Samsung T5. I think we'll be seeing at least one get such an update before the year is out.

No camera has 13 stops at ISO 12,800 to my knowledge though! The shadows will be great in ProRes... Even original Blackmagic camera was creamy, though limited to ISO 1600 max.

You can do NR in Resolve to a higher standard than in the GH5S or any other camera... Tons of processing power to throw at the RAW files and you get to choose how much film-like grain to keep.

If it does RAW over USB C at same time as ProRes to card... That would be an easy solution. I have a feeling one might switch off though, otherwise it becomes a Pocket grenade.

Or RAW to CFast card and ProRes to SD card both internally. I'd like that.

By "standard 4:3" that means it's 21.63 diagonal in all aspect ratios... Multi-aspect sensor. Supports 17:9 aspect for 4096 x 2160 DCI 4K. To do 21.63 diagonal in both 17:9 and 4:3, you need the extra width (19.3mm) Yep, I think this is the same sensor used in GH5S and Pocket 4K. Yes 4K 120fps capable... See the E2 cam...But that needs external recorder, no? I think the internal processing power required for that is currently out of bounds of small affordable cameras.

Maybe that is part of the cooling system... sprinklers

If I were to speculate on the battery side... The larger screen is 1080p... constant 1080p feed to debayer and process, from constant full pixel readout. Mirrorless cams have a lower power, lower res mode for live-view. This probably doesn't. Raw is unprocessed data straight from the sensor, but the write speeds will be higher, card and card controller more power hungry and dedicated processors involved with compression even (maybe). Other considerations... the touch screen UI is like running a tablet on the side, from same battery as camera... probably runs on an Arm processor, and quite a lot of background processes going on involved with the display and monitoring tools... And then there is power and heat management, which probably isn't as well developed as on a camera like the GH5. And maybe they just selected less expensive, but less power economical chips.

How the hell did this thread get 33,000+ views since Saturday. That is approaching half the X-H1 monster thread which has been around since February. Just shows how much long-time demand in-waiting there was for 4K raw & prores at $1299 Doubt a mechanical HDD has the write speeds for 4K raw or ProRes. May as well stick to SD cards. USB C is a great feature for external SSDs though and replacing a bulky HDMI recorder. Like an Atomos Star but smaller and camera-USB-powered.

It's a shame it lacks the tilt screen. It is fixed, with a slight slant like the BMCC 2.5K. With Grant's insistence you can use it for self shooting and YouTube, this is an oversight. They should make a $1600 version with a few more bells on it...3 GH5 batteries in a shallow base and that same screen with a hinge. 4x-ish crop for the 120fps I believe? The S16 Metabones Speed Booster for original BMPCC won't work but XL should. Yeah a good year for Micro Four Thirds. However the E2 doesn't shoot internal raw or ProRes, only H.264 if I'm not mistaken. So less interested in that one.

Not articulated and no EVF though... Horses for courses.

Yes All lucky 10 of you

If Panasonic did a RAW and ProRes firmware update for the GH5S.... Wouldn't that be game over Blackmagic?

120 pre-orders at CVP in the few hours since release. Wonder how far forward in the queue we'll have to be to get one.

ProRes and RAW certainly have their uses. But so does... An EVF IBIS High resolution stills Full frame sensors and Super 35mm format Long battery life And this has none of that... but yes, good job Blackmagic. I will certainly be getting one. It will be a cinematic beast and fun.

News flash... Manufacturing contract negotiated by web petition!

Can say that again And the sensor is significantly wider than the GH5's

Sony have just announced the FS5 II ahead of NAB 2018. This brings with it a raft of improvements, including revamped colour profiles tuned similarly to the high-end VENICE digital cinema camera. As well as HDR and Rec.2020 4K modes, it's also capable of DCI 4K (4096 x 2160) RAW to an external recorder, at up to an astonishing 120fps, although this frame rate is limited to 4 seconds of slow-motion capture. 4K 60p meanwhile is continuous externally, and internally the camera records 4K up to 30p. Read the full article

Banned @RedWineMogul I am much more interested in BM Pocket 4K on this topic, than shit slinging

ProRes RAW to tape

How's the zoom action on the 16-55mm F2.8. Does it tighten up at the end a bit like the 18-135mm? AF was silent?

Why wouldn't it be an x86 instruction set compatible chip? Just because they are currently making ARM based processors doesn't mean to say Apple can't do an AMD type CPU in future. Laptops and desktops don't really need RISC architecture... Whether pro or not. Apple will stay in the pro market and everything else is just speculation for clicks

I will, if you fix your avatar.