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Allthough it is not entirenly only my issue. Clients (production companies) ask footage to be shot in log. And while it is no longer my issue but the editor or color grader issue. I prefer the colours coming straight out of camera to be nice. Especially when they are combinging footage from different shooters and camera's. I don't want to be the guy where they have the most work in post with. As most production companies ask feedback forms from everyone involved, and if an editor writes down "I prefer the footage from shooter B because the colours are ready to go, and I am shooter A, then I might move down the list of shooters to call for a new project". Alllthough I will try to always use the C500 ii for these types of clients when possible. Where the colours are stellar straight out of camera.
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Davide DB reacted to a post in a topic: Sony finally notices that people like small cameras, releases RX1R III
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Sony finally notices that people like small cameras, releases RX1R III
maxJ4380 replied to eatstoomuchjam's topic in Cameras
Awesome.. a new market opportunity opening up, for buying cheap plastic lens caps and grinding RX1R III into it with the dremel. Obviously i couldn't sell them too cheap as one of the smarter cookies might smell something fishy going on... -
Herbie goes to monte carlo 1977. Even more vintage... or the village people that was 1980 as well.
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Hi Max you will get much more reliable results using a warming filter than a thorium lens Ive got a yellowed Super Takumar 55/1.8 & can hardly tell much difference with it !! Color filters are not cheating they were in photographers bags in the film era my Dad used to use a yellow filter for shooting snow scenes as it gives better shadows.Some of my Soviet lens arrived with a color filter still attached. !!
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Can you please do ratings for Herbie Goes Bananas (1980) 🙏
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Sony finally notices that people like small cameras, releases RX1R III
MrSMW replied to eatstoomuchjam's topic in Cameras
Right, is it the hood or the bag that is made in Japan, because if it’s not both, I’m not interested as I prefer cloth and plastic from Japan and find similar items from countries such as China, Vietnam, Thailand etc, to be far inferior with their shitty cloth and plastics. I’d pay no more than $195-197. -
MrSMW reacted to a post in a topic: Sony finally notices that people like small cameras, releases RX1R III
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as @newfoundmass said above, you can do your own thing and it’s easier than ever these days. Too much weight given to SOOC colour science…
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Yeah I need to create my own lut, as so far I have not found one with good contrast. Have not tried baking in a lut.
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Isn't all your personal issues with the image moot when you factor in the ability to add your own lut, thus giving you the color you want SOOC?
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newfoundmass reacted to a post in a topic: Panasonic Lumix S1R Mark II coming soon
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Davide DB replied to eatstoomuchjam's topic in Cameras
And most importantly it has a "MADE IN JAPAN" marking on its side 😉 An artisan next to Hattori Hanzo's shop makes it by hand. -
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Sony finally notices that people like small cameras, releases RX1R III
Davide DB replied to eatstoomuchjam's topic in Cameras
Its lens hood is just 198 USD https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/907015-REG/Sony_LHP_1_Lens_Hood.html -
I've only used my S1ii with SD cards so far, but I haven't had any overheating issues at all shooting multiple hour+ interviews in open gate 6K24p.
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So for those with S1RIIs and S1IIs in hand, is the overheating people are posting on reddit about only occurring with CF express cards, or with SD as well?
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ArashM reacted to a post in a topic: Panasonic Lumix S1R Mark II coming soon
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There are an almost infinite number of combos affecting these things but yes, 'white' caucasian skin for sure shows up the most magenta and more so in men and more so in men over a certain age and if they are drinkers, well... And then the DJ has his pink light on everything and we're all magenta! I'm about to do my next phase/gen of colour, or at least within the next couple of weeks after the next few jobs now I am 100% L Mount. I wasn't too bothered previously about having my stills match my video though you couldn't tell the difference between my Sony and Nikon files, but that is because they have been edited together. I've been very happy for the last 1.5 years with the SOOC look of my video files from my S5ii's and S9, but that is probably more because of the use of a 1/8th mist that reduces a bit of contrast and that 'digital' look, plus I am baking in an Arri inspired LUT. The combination of those 2 things gets me to about 80% of the finished image with another approx 10% being some very minor tweaks in post to some, but far from all bits of footage, mostly just some; cropping, straightening, exposure and minor WB and then another approx 10% with the creative LUT slapped on over the top. OK, it's not slapped, but gently laid over the entire timeline and the individual clips have a final tweak if needs be. It's not high end grading by any means, but I'm more than happy with the result. Could it be better? Sure and I've got a direction I'd like to take it and all be doing so over the coming weeks with the stills perfectly aligned with the video for future jobs.
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Ntblowz might be onto something. I 99.9% shoot caucasian people, and red skin patches might be more prone to white skin. Obviously your still is graded and not a rec 709 conversion. But agree here it looks good. But might also have to do with the skincolor. Allthough I never seem to have any skintones issues with blackmagic or canon c500ii and on my s5ii footage this always pops up.
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That is interesting, I wonder that is the reasoning about all these colour science differences between brands/camera's etc.
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And just to show that there are as many arguments for Lumix over Black Magic, probably because I clicked on that YouTube link above, I'm getting such comparisons in my feed now (!!), I clicked on one and grabbed a frame: What are those greens...I'm sorry, yellows supposed to be on the left (BM) image and are those skin tones better? Not to my eyes and taste they are not, albeit this dude had slapped his LUT on these, but still... Click on the pic for a better view but there pic on the right looks far more pleasing and natural to me.
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Far right cameras 😂
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Speaking of colour science when we shoot indian weddings the Lumix looks more pleasing than Sony straight up... the ugly yellow really ruined it without colour grading. When we do some livestream for Chinese (which is predominately Sony) they were shocked with the colour coming from Lumix cam, you know aisan really hate yellow on their already yellow skin. They really prefer pale and magenta more which Canon is really good at, which lumix is kinda similarish in that regard. This time last year I am all Sony.. FX3/FX30/E1.. sold them all and never regret. (well except the 4k60p crop but luckily my Canon can all do non crop 4K60p ha). I m still deciding between S1RII or S1II at end of the year when wedding season start to ramp up in southern hemisphere, 2 of my friend is gonna get S1II so I kinda want to be a bit different to them.
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I have just been to see F1 directed by Joseph Kosinski with Brad Pitt as leed.scored as follows 10 is Super and 1 is pee weak.story 8 Cinematography 8 acting 8 -sound 8 putting the audience in the F1 drivers seat 5. Compared to "Rush" 2013 with the James Hunt and Niki Lauda battles story 9 Cinematography 7 acting 9 sound 7 putting the audience in the F1 drivers seat 2. Compared to Grand Prix 1966 John Frankenheimer & shot on Super Panavision 70 story 6 rather lame and artificial ,Cinematography 9 amazing for 1966,acting 6 ,sound 9 ,putting the audience in the drivers seat 9
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Define ‘bad’? -5 magenta and boom. One camera is a Golf GTi and the other is a Porsche Boxster. One is a better all-rounder and the other is better at one specific thing. Mid-range mirrorless vs low end cinema camera 🤷♂️
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I know its not the same, but it is super obvious how red the skintones are on the s1ii. (Have not looked into much other comparison videos, but I saw this one passing my fb feed) Could you fix it sure, but why is it so bad right out of camera? And it is something users have been complaining about for years, and they even made it worse.. Sure most reviewers that got shipped an camera from panasonic dont point this out..
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So this has changed from you comparing S1Rii colour compared with S5ii compared with OG S5 to S1ii vs Black Magic, I can't keep up 😜 I could change the topic now to your Black Magic colour science vs my Lumix IBIS. But in all seriousness, there is no one single one stop solution to anything but rather a case of whatever suits your needs best!