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I don't think Lumix gets nearly the credit they deserve for everything they throw into these cameras. You could argue that they almost put too much in. The codecs, frame rates, and aspect ratio options could be considered overwhelming by some folks.

I think it's a good release, just a bit overpriced. $2500-2800 would be a much more competitive price point. I imagine it'll be under $3000 soon enough. I'll stick with my S5s and S5II X though. I do like the new lens. I like that it's size. But I think I'll stick with the 20-60 kit lens. That 20mm focal length is really nice to have.

The summary for me is: Decent spec in a decent enough but not exactly inspiring body but it will do, somewhat over-priced, in a competitive space in challenging times. OK, can’t do much about the latter, but could very much have done something about all of the former (other than the tech spec I personally can’t complain about). How much is a used FX3 and a pair of FX30’s going to be in 2026, because I already have all the glass?

The S1H with an OLPF and Netflix approval also had moiré in some cases. It's more a function of distance to the repetitive pattern and readout mode. Basically, some are better than others in certain situations, but none are perfect. I agree. It's the wild west right now, making it hard for anyone to make a purchase decision. Still, the S1ii is easily worth it in my opinion, several hundred cheaper than the A7Siii which was a video-only camera (and there's significant inflation since then). This camera will sell well.

Is it really better than Fuji's? And DJI's is arguably better too. 😅

I want one if the video isn't overly sharp in the details. I will wait and see though. I expect sales will not be super high, but being already set up with L-bodies this is a compelling camera.

Everyone is approaching this in their own way I suppose. YouTuber's want to bring the hype in their main role as client journalists, I use the term journalist very lightly, the aim to strengthen their access to future launches and to reward the paymaster. Of course they've also got an eye on the view-counts and click-revenue, it's all going down as the camera market shrinks. They need to hype stuff, to get the numbers up. The more the numbers fall, the more repetitive embargoed hyperbolic shit you will see from these channels. Panasonic loyal users are approaching it from the angle of, well, we waited 7 years and still love our S1H/S1, etc. and the S1 II is by no means a bad camera, new sensor and lots of nice video modes, so £3000 isn't so bad and I will agree with them and the reasons they have for making the purchase. I meanwhile am coming at it less from the specs and image quality side at the moment (I don't have the demo units and don't plan to buy it either), so coming at it more from the big picture stuff, the market strategy and industry POV especially where it concerns Panasonic's survival, and whether they are doing enough to take market share off Canon, Nikon, Sony and Fujifilm, so that their higher-ups can justify them existing for much longer. This is very important for me, as I have a long history with Panasonic's products and we can't afford to lose a brand as important as Lumix from cameras. Plus I just want to see some fucking creativity. I am so tired of the same old formula of camera design and the lack of a basic exposure feature such as an ND filter is a tragic joke at this point.

Just some thoughts on the current situation. https://www.eoshd.com/news/the-panasonic-s1-ii-pricing-is-wrong-so-is-the-entire-product-strategy/ TLDR: You can't charge £3000+ for a 24 megapixel camera in 2025 without a flagship sensor anywhere to be seen. Plus, they have made us wait 7 years for it. Autofocus performance only 5th, behind Sony, Nikon, Canon, OM System. There's still no rangefinder-style L-mount camera from Panasonic to replace the Micro Four Thirds stuff, GX80, GX9, and so on. (S9 doesn't count as it doesn't have an EVF or a proper shutter in it). Engineering doing a great job, product planning, marketing and ergonomic design is the problem. And to add to that, sensor procurement and the too-low R&D budget since 2020. Competition have better sensors, and lower prices, and more lenses, and more popular branding, and more popular lens mounts. Not good. Conclusion is that Panasonic's sales may fold.

Feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone where Gerald releases a glowing review of it, while Lumix users are stressing out about it before using it. It's usually the opposite!

Tony and Chelsea are just excited for the chance to put out some sort of content other than Tony reading various rumor sites to the camera, dumb "what's the best camera" videos, sponsored software content, and insipid camera-vs-camera comparisons. Also, they seem to have made a huge mistake uploading that one to YouTube - they forgot to use the photo of Tony looking surprised in the thumbnail. Seriously - they're really channeling their old stock photography days with that one. It's on like 50% of their thumbnails.

And if the price keeps increasing on the current trajectory, there will be no camera market to speak of anyway.

Look at this hyperbole. Depressing. This is why I quit regular camera reviews, there are far more enjoyable and creative ways to do Youtube and journalism. Why doesn't Gerald yearn to make a film instead or shoot instead? He has no interest in it. He knows his job and his role in this industry is to sell cameras.

Thats exactly what he wanted.

When I was reading the comment I double checked to see if I m in the right group, which I was. That post really irks the Sony shill in the group cause most of the comment is about the title or wait til Sony releases.

I spoke with the gentleman I buy my gear from at the local store here in Toronto, He is also pretty sure these are new post Tariff pricing! I'm guessing there is no point comparing pricing between brands until all of them raise to counter tariffs... (sigh)

True, they also want to discourage cheap grey imports into the US.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1892230-REG/panasonic_dc_s1m2body_lumix_s1ii_mirrorless_camera.html It's very unclear!

Theoretically, this is true, but in some cases, manufacturers will raise prices across the board. In some cases, to subsidize a lower profit margin in the US while keeping the prices reasonable. The whole thing is a freakin' mess. Heck, Leica raised prices in Canada and the US despite that Canada added no new tariffs on them.

I am a bit worried about Arri suing me 🙂 Might have to be a secret release

Europe should not be affected by the US tariffs, however list price(DC-S1 Mark II) here is €3.499 regardless.

maybe this week after all 😉 best

Are these prices reflecting Tariffs?

Thanks, I see now.

Sticking with my pair of S5ii’s (both purchased used) and single S9. To be fair, the S1Rii and the S1ii bodies are better than the S5ii but neither have anything that makes me want to switch from what I have. 5.1k 60p open gate? Quite nice, but also not enough to warrant any changes in my lineup. Pricing not quite as bad as reported and will drop quite quickly. I get the S1ii model but the E model baffles me a bit as surely anyone who wants one will buy the S1ii but if not, the S5ii/x? As for the lens, good there is something being offered that is not an f8 shitbox of a lens, but not something I am interested in personally.

Nikon now can do the funniest firmware update in history of hybrid mirrorless industry.