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​Very old argument, from 2009 in fact! Move along please.

Canon 1D C is $7999. Just to recap - that's cheaper than the C300, it's a DSLR and it shoots 4K. ​If you think expensive camera = job security, you're wrong! Talent, knowhow and effective commercialis

i would have bought 3 of these 50MP cameras if it had 4K.  now thanks canon, i will buy ZERO.  and if the 5D4 comes out with 4K and does not top the 1DC or A7s, and has no swivel screen or focus peaki

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​​Probably! Sure, the competition has 4k in consumer cams, but a lot of pro's are invested in cannon glass, so why make it easy (i.e. cheaper) for them.

 

​Could be. But it would be region locked to either 30 or 25p. No 24p. Definitly not 60p/50p, although perhaps at 1080p. Resolution wise no C4K 4096 width, but 3840 only.

It's APS-C in a consumer body, plastic everywhere, crop factor. Mic in, but no audio monitoring through headphone jack. It would pretty much be handicapped to a certain degree, but 4K nontheless. There might be a flat picture profile, but nothing logarithmic. Codec and bitrate would be okay for getting stuff right in camera, but would fall apart quickly when grading. Moiré/aliasing would probably be all over it.

I mean... why would they do it? Because '4K' sells. But pro's aren't suddenly going to want this kind of shindig instead of a C300mkII you know. That's why I can see them giving it a go for a 750D, but not for the 5D-line just yet, before it's absolutely the new standard in a year or two and there's hardly a way around implementing it. A Cinema-line camera would then be doing 8K hopefully anyways. So...

But you know... there's Magic Lantern, and if they could have a go at something like that... cool things are possible, surely. Rebirth of the 550D's success.

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Yeah, it's reasonable suggest the low end will get 4K first before the Canon high end stills range.

Panasonic did it! GH4, but no 4K AF100.

Eventually these DSLRs will get CFast then Magic Lantern 4K raw will be a distinct possibility.

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Not a shock really, did you really expect this feature?  What ever the reasons canon is not interested in DSLR filmmaking

 And I use two different canon DSLR cameras for filmmaking. This likely a smart move. It tells photographers that canon caters to photographers only and the perception is that canon 

As only their needs in mind and is less compromised.  I think we are a niche in the overall market that DSLR movies are too complicated for jack and Jill, their needs are covered by cell phones. Thankfully both Sony and Panasonic and others are competing for our attention. I no longer look to canon for my needs and the new cameras hold no interest for me. I will add to my harem from other mfgs.

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Corporations like people will do what they really want to do period.  I agree with Andrew what Canon wants to do is preserve 4k for the C300 space.  I might be they roll 4k in their pro video camcorder space by NAB this year but as far as LSS cameras, its going to be C300 I think.

 

Your right but for the fact that Canon created huge DSLR Video market with the 5D.  Sold and sold it, created a new customer base for glass just based on that, and now appears to be walking away from it.  Of course they are free to do whatever they want...and your still right, its a stills camera.

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Segmenting the 5D line could potentially work in our favor. The 5Ds and 5Dr will make photogs very happy, meaning there's the potential for Canon to make us happy (again) without the photogs feeling abandoned. Not sure whether this is likely or not (I'm going to lean towards not), but it could happen. Either way I'm looking forward to getting a used 5Dii for dirt cheap in the near future. 

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It's a stills camera, it's focusing on stills. The fact that it has video at all is merely an afterthought.

You don't buy a screwdriver then complain that it sucks as a hammer.

​Very old argument, from 2009 in fact! Move along please.

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​Very old argument, from 2009 in fact! Move along please.

​That's how canon seems to see their DSLR lineup, as still cameras. I maybe shooting myself in the foot by saying this but I suspect that canon won't release a 4K camera cheaper than the c300. But what's so wrong with that. Canon wants to create a barrier of entry which protects the owners and the brand name. Think about it if everyone had amazing cameras, then no one could get jobs just for having a camera. It may suck that good cameras cost money but I think that a little bit more money is worth the extra job security.

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​That's how canon seems to see their DSLR lineup, as still cameras. I maybe shooting myself in the foot by saying this but I suspect that canon won't release a 4K camera cheaper than the c300.

Canon 1D C is $7999. Just to recap - that's cheaper than the C300, it's a DSLR and it shoots 4K.

But what's so wrong with that. Canon wants to create a barrier of entry which protects the owners and the brand name. Think about it if everyone had amazing cameras, then no one could get jobs just for having a camera. It may suck that good cameras cost money but I think that a little bit more money is worth the extra job security.

​If you think expensive camera = job security, you're wrong!

Talent, knowhow and effective commercialisation of both = job security.

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​That's how canon seems to see their DSLR lineup, as still cameras. I maybe shooting myself in the foot by saying this but I suspect that canon won't release a 4K camera cheaper than the c300. But what's so wrong with that. Canon wants to create a barrier of entry which protects the owners and the brand name. Think about it if everyone had amazing cameras, then no one could get jobs just for having a camera. It may suck that good cameras cost money but I think that a little bit more money is worth the extra job security.

Its an interesting argument, one thats arguable with people coming down on all sides of it.  Canon may very well want to create a barrier, but ultimately of course what sells you is years of experience doing good work with whatever camera you have at your disposal.  Work thats truly inspired comes in many camera form factors.  Its a combination of tools, the skills and the talent to use them.  

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