Mark Romero 2 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 So the latest rumors are that an update to the Sony a6500 won't be until June. I am sure it will be a good camera, but I know I will be pretty frustrated shooting with my a6500 for the next 6 months. The LCD (resolution and dimming in 4K), the ergonomics / UI, the lack of 4K 60p, and the badness of 1080p are all kind of frustrating, Slog 2 in 8-Bit, and the lack of flexibility in the codec has been a bummer too. The quality of Sony aps-c lenses is kind of frustrating, too. So I am hoping to get feedback from previous sony shooters who are shooting with the X-T3. One real important feature for me is dynamic range, though. I think technically speaking the X-T3 has another stop of DR over the a6500, but I wonder if the better codec of the X-T3 will allow for more USABLE dynamic range. Meaning, are the shadows clean enough in F-Log that I can shoot at +1 stop as opposed to SLOG 2 where I basically have to shoot at +2 stops? Also for stills, the 1/250th of a second flash sync speed is preferable to the 1/160th of the a6500. Anyway, just looking for peoples experience with the X-T3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 The Shadows are pretty clean on the XT3 in my experience. Everything is a step up from the Sony. The Fuji lens lineup is really nice though sorely lacking in IS other than some of the zoom lenses. Mark Romero 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androidlad Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 A6500's only strength compared to X-T3 is IBIS. With F-Log, due to its placement of middle grey at much higher 46IRE, you don't need to and should not overexpose at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Romero 2 Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 On 1/31/2019 at 10:59 PM, thebrothersthre3 said: The Shadows are pretty clean on the XT3 in my experience. Everything is a step up from the Sony. The Fuji lens lineup is really nice though sorely lacking in IS other than some of the zoom lenses. Expand Thanks for the input. I appreciate any other thoughts you might have on the X-T3, particularly regarding dynamic range or color correction when white balance is off. On 1/31/2019 at 10:59 PM, androidlad said: A6500's only strength compared to X-T3 is IBIS. With F-Log, due to its placement of middle grey at much higher 46IRE, you don't need to and should not overexpose at all. Expand Thank you for your opinion. So compared to SLOG 2, in F Log there are less stops of dynamic range allocated ABOVE middle gray but more stops of dynamic range allocated below middle gray??? Is the highlight rolloff of F-Log any nicer than 8-bit slog 2 from a6500 / a7 III??? (Lucky for me if I buy the X-T3 the lenses that I most like have stabilization, like the 10-24.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androidlad Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 On 1/31/2019 at 11:27 PM, Mark Romero 2 said: Thanks for the input. I appreciate any other thoughts you might have on the X-T3, particularly regarding dynamic range or color correction when white balance is off. Thank you for your opinion. So compared to SLOG 2, in F Log there are less stops of dynamic range allocated ABOVE middle gray but more stops of dynamic range allocated below middle gray??? Is the highlight rolloff of F-Log any nicer than 8-bit slog 2 from a6500 / a7 III??? (Lucky for me if I buy the X-T3 the lenses that I most like have stabilization, like the 10-24.) Expand Dynamic range is similar. F-log allocates more bits below middle grey compared to Slog2, it behaves similar to Slog3. Due to some unknown issues, F-log can get magenta banding when shooting sky even with 10bit. I recommend HLG for better tonal range and clean colorimetry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 If you want I can send you some clips to play around with. Mark Romero 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Romero 2 Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 On 1/31/2019 at 11:36 PM, androidlad said: Dynamic range is similar. F-log allocates more bits below middle grey compared to Slog2, it behaves similar to Slog3. Due to some unknown issues, F-log can get magenta banding when shooting sky even with 10bit. I recommend HLG for better tonal range and clean colorimetry. Expand Thank you for letting me know that. On 1/31/2019 at 11:44 PM, thebrothersthre3 said: If you want I can send you some clips to play around with. Expand That would be awesome. Can you upload them to dropbox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 On 2/1/2019 at 12:10 AM, Mark Romero 2 said: Thank you for letting me know that. That would be awesome. Can you upload them to dropbox? Expand yeah is dropbox free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Romero 2 Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 On 2/1/2019 at 4:21 AM, thebrothersthre3 said: yeah is dropbox free? Expand Hmmm... don't know if it is. I have an account with them. I think you can set up a free account but it is only for up to 2GB of files, which isn't very much. https://www.dropbox.com/help/billing/cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 On 2/1/2019 at 5:43 AM, Mark Romero 2 said: Hmmm... don't know if it is. I have an account with them. I think you can set up a free account but it is only for up to 2GB of files, which isn't very much. https://www.dropbox.com/help/billing/cost Expand How about Google drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Romero 2 Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 On 2/1/2019 at 6:00 AM, thebrothersthre3 said: How about Google drive Expand Sounds good. Although i am not really familiar with it. I will pm you my gmail account so that you can share them with me (I think that is what I need to do). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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