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And this is in the P6K footage on You Tube - HOW? Let me guess you watch You Tube on your TV?

Yes a troll if he calls me out for not reading this comment as he clearly didn't read mine. Even after I told him my comment was about "motion cadence". No rebuttal and nothing to defend his comments except call me a troll. How's that P6K that you supposedly ordered?

And I'll call you a troll. You still haven't read my first comment that was with the video link. It's about motion cadence and that's the cinematically better then the P4K. Please dispute this or shut up about telling me to read your comments. Your replied comment was a back handed shot at the P6K at best. You the "Mighty Mattias say you think the P6K will be able to produce cinematic footage". What is the "might" in your comment? You have officially became a You Tube influencer and can avoid backing up your comments. Good job brother. You're as bad as the Mighty Matters. There's not smoothing going on with today's flat screen tv's and certainly not across You Tube and back across my monitors. Motion films use the Arri and RED's and others and produce natural motion cadence. Motion cadence is real and watching the RED or P6K at 50 fps gives you a slow motion smooth look. But the other thing the RED or P6K does is captures the natural motion correctly. Be it the subject or camera movement. The cadence on the P6K is not videoish in any way. I really think you don't have a clue about what makes great motion cadence and would bet you own the GH5.

So now you think you're a snob and bring up global shutter? I know global shutter and it has issues or everyone would use global shutter. Again for the 100th time. My link and post was only about cadence and motion. Feel free to add actual comments to debate that if you like, I welcome that. But don't insult us and make backyard comments about the footage looking videoish. On anther post you'll praise the S1 for it's cinematic look. And stop the b.s. comments that you're making. You said: "I have said more than once that I'm convinced that the P6K can capture cinematic footage." This is such a backhanded compliment that it's mind boggling. What's the deal. I thought you were a straight up down the line guy? Stop with the videoish and I'n certain the 6K can be cinematic. You're turning into a negative influencer. Look at the comment below your original one after my video. One of your sheep chimed in the same way. Again - cadence motion is better on the P6K then the P4K and that was what my link and comment were about.

My original post was about motion cadence and not cinematic look. You of all people would know the difference and it's clear that's what my comments were about. You yourself post great footage that you bounce around and how different LUT's and color grades but you come on here and talk about curves and color on a piece of footage that I clearly stated had great motion cadence. That blows my mind. You're not a novice and have more experience then I do with various cameras including the P4K. So I truly don't get the flat our trying to dog the P6K with the "videoish" comment you made. That's such a You Tube influencer comment that's never seen in a good light. And this is a Blackmagic camera. And clearly lots of footage is on You Tube and has been for days. Here's a NEWS flash: If your camera (the GH5) has horrible motion cadence then NOTHING can bring that back and fix it in post. And motion cadence covers everything to do with motion, including pans, push in, people in motion, and very subtile movements that has parallax background movement. This is what separates cine cameras from the lower end cameras.

What is 50fps supposed to look like? It's slower then reality. You have a You Tube channel and that's the best way you can describe videoish? Amazing. You saying any footage looks videoish is a put down that is left for people to thing a camera is sub par. Your comments prove this. The grade put on the camera can push the color and tonal values in any direction but you commented on that. The clarity is not over done at all and not "sharpened" or unnatural. You're nothing but biased and your word is not real. I want to trust You Tube influencers but your response to the P4K is amateurish at best. And I just watched S1 with the new update look like iHone garbage compared to the P6K footage I posted. Nothing I said about the P6K footage had to do with the color grade and everything to do with cadence and how it handled motions, background and captured data information. You guys need to read my comment before you use the word videoish. Next time you pick out GH5, S1 and P4K footage make sure you watch out for the motion stutter because it seems like you all have a blind eye when it comes to admitting that those 3 camera have issues in that department. Motion in film is like silk because its capturing real like. Real life doesn't have stutter and jitters. You need to revisit film versus the low end motion and cadence. And then revisit the P6K footage. Motion in film is like silk because its capturing real like. Real life doesn't have stutter and jitters.

I can't get past the IBIS distortion that all cameras suffer from. This also looks videoish. Not liking how it handle cadence.

There is lots of footage from the P6K. How is this the first footage you've seen? Nothing looks videoish to me. Not the cadence movement or the detail or the color ( anyone can grade anything from one end to the other). What looks videoish? My machine plays that footage back flawlessly and no stutter or videoish qualities. The 50fps is like silk. Be more specific?

Nothing wrong with the EF mount. How many cine cameras use the EF mount? The footage from the P6K already has better cadence and a more filmic look then the P4K. There has to be more data being captured at a better scan rate then the P4K. And what you and everyone else has been saying is who needs, who can work with and 6K is not better then the P4K with a speed-booster. This footage shows the P6K is more cinematic then the P4K.

The Komodo is not going to be $5,000 unless unless you own a Hydrogen and that's another $1,000. RED''s media SSD's are what $2-3K. I don't think the Komodo comes in at under $10K in a workable form. People want one mount system to invest in. EF fill that need. You seem very hostile toward the P6K. Why? Is it the P4K and because you own one? The whole Braw and Pro Res and what you get at 6k and 4K is a silly argument. On the one hand I'm many have said said "who needs RAW" and since that's the case for most people getting 4K Pro Res and 6K Braw should not be an issue at all.

I'm talking about 120hz on your computer monitor and being able to playback 6K footage. All footage from the P6K has had better motion cadence then the P4K. Can you post your P6K footage? Part of good cadence is how well the sensor is scanned. That's why global shuttler sensors look so good.

I'm a bg fan of good motion cadence and this is what cine cameras have that the lower end cameras do not do very well. the 12ohz is your monitor being able to keep up and do some of the work. It makes a difference in how footage plays back on your computer. What system do you have to play back true 6K?

Have you tried 4K DCI or HD ? Do you think the cadence being off is the playback on your PC? I'm almost certain you need a 120hz monitor to see the playback the way it's intended. I have a 27' with and without 120hz and it makes a difference. What's the DR on the micro and what size sensor does it have?

Brother @androidlad when is 12 bit RAW goin going to be released for the Z6?

I would say the P6K will have better image quality then the C200 already.

That footage is awesome. The cadence is amazing and better then the P4K.

Really ? I'm so disappointed that when you buy the P6K that you can never putt together a good crew. I miss the days that a sucky camera and good crew created magic.

DM sent over your way. Looks like the cost are stable for now. How much do you think used P4K will go for? What does DR have to do with low light performance? And you really think BM will relate the P6K if it's worse in low light? Are you ok? Do you need time alone? BM has never lead with the spec sheet for any recent camera release. P4K owners are acting like this is a Sony release. And defending using speed boosters the gain this or that as being the way to go. Well its not and it's an added step. All the cine cameras that use speed boosters are also not m43 and they never will be. You have a reason the EVA1 and other cine relates are not m43. Here's the output that you get from the p6k. And let's remember all the comments about "who needs RAW anyway" You're not stuck at shooting at 6k with the P6K.

Maybe you can show me when I said the P4K sucked? I said it sucks that they didn't know the P6K was going to be available. Using an adaptors is a pain to use if you don't have too. You bring up the extra cost like it's an issue that's not worth the cost. As said before if you're worried about the cost of the P6K then you need to get a Fuji or Sony A7III. Do you edit your own footage? Do you have a computer that can handle 4K RAW footage? If you don't or don't have one you don't have a clue what computer you need. I've always support the P4K and think it's a great camera at a great price. It was never in stock at the time I was upgrading or I would have picked one up. Again, no need to add you're own flavor to what you think I said or what you want people to think I said. M43 is not the system people referee to work in but what choice did they have? You say the P4K is being requested by procurers for what? It hasn't been out long and the Ursa Mini Pro would be requested over the P4K or the Arrii would be requested over the P4K unless that producer was wanting to save money and was on a limited budget. You seem to be telling a tale fish tale that the P4K is being requested over the Ursa Mini and Arrii. Please send links of the sample footage and tv shows that you shot with the P4K. I'm doing a feature next month with one also. Lol

B & H has the P4K in stock. So that demand fever has dropped to nothing now that you can get one in two days. Do you buy a new one for $1,295 or a used one for $1,100?

I'm not arguing with you. I'm going by the low light performance being better from m43 to APS-C to Full frame sensor over the last two years. So you're saying the GH5 just has bad low light performance for no reason? That it was just an oversight by Panasonic and that they just some how improved it with the Gh5S? Please post proof because I'm not taking your word for it. The trend in related cameras with the sensors above say other wise.

They also say makes it "super 35". Right?

All you GH5 and P4K m43 users are talking smack about the P6K and that's bizarre because it's in the same P4K family. It's not like this is a rival company and you're trying to advise people to go with the P4K. This P6K is a win win for everyone. What? But using a sped boaster in the P4K makes it APS-C or Super 35? You lost your mind if you're arguing about semantics.

You know what I was talking about. And you know people have asked if it was possible on the P6K. And the jump up from m43 to APS-C and then full frame sensors does give you better low light abilities most of the time. Look at the Gh5 to Gh5s and them the A7SII and the new mirrorless S1 and Z6 over the GH5. You act like the P6K will be a step down from the P4K with sped booster. You either have a P4K, GH5 or just want to talk down the P6K APS-C sensor vs M43.

I mention the price difference because people complained about the P6K being $1,200 - You can take that anyway you want but if people are complain they the p6K is too expensive then that's what I take it has. Not sure why you turn this into a "they should probably not buy the P4K, P6K, any of the Z-Cams, etc. anyway." That's not my point. My point was once you buy a speed booster for the P4K the price becomes closer to the P6K. The P4K owners leave out the added cost and time spent getting the right glass. Nothin in my comments or the following were ever about total gear and gear production cost. This is the reach people do the their post falls apart. You could say the same about the P6K in that it's cost is so low that it's not an issue. And you will be able to use an adaptor on the P6K, it's a matter of time. https://www.diyphotography.net/the-lucadapters-magicboost-will-let-your-blackmagic-pocket-6k-shoot-full-frame-raw-video-with-ef-lenses/?utm_source=jjd933d&fbclid=IwAR35DA-tmUN-TYFQwJ3ICyUhVXJ5SJZqpjO85Vmt1XJnBhl_P9inUNuNO94 Please explain. ^^^ And what happens when the P6K get a speed boaster to shoot full frame? ZCam has already built the APS-C and Fullframe models. M43 with it's little adaptors and small sensor if getting left behind by the same companies that everyone thought would champion them.