MrSMW

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Define ‘bad’? -5 magenta and boom. One camera is a Golf GTi and the other is a Porsche Boxster. One is a better all-rounder and the other is better at one specific thing. Mid-range mirrorless vs low end cinema camera 🤷‍♂️

So this has changed from you comparing S1Rii colour compared with S5ii compared with OG S5 to S1ii vs Black Magic, I can't keep up 😜 I could change the topic now to your Black Magic colour science vs my Lumix IBIS. But in all seriousness, there is no one single one stop solution to anything but rather a case of whatever suits your needs best!

There loss is our gain. As soon as I get the chance, I am going to put up this Arri log against Andy log and Joel log in a direct head to head. Regardless of result, I can really only choose Andy or Joel log because I can put that on all 4 cameras but the official Arri only on 1. Andy log = @Andrew Reid version of what the Arri lut might be for Lumix cameras. Joel log = Phantom Luts which are designed to replicate various Arri based movie looks.

Buy used and let some other mug take the hit! I do sometimes buy new myself, but I’d estimate that 75-80% of all my purchases (cameras and lenses) in the last 5 years have been used. This new release does seem VERY overpriced that and possibly a bit speculative of them as the old model is trading quite high?

I disagree and you can call me a Lumix fangirl or shill, but having or having had all 3, nah. The OG S5 did/does have a marginally better image quality than the S5ii as did the S1H and S1R and I think the magic is back with the S1Rii. Based on both my limited so far testing and the results of others who have not just jumped to Lumix or have limited skills in the first place. There is some outright shit out there as there is for any and every camera because it’s not just the camera, but the lens, the use of the kit, the environment, the editing/processing, the output and presentation and yada yada yada. The bottom line is if you don’t feel it’s for you and you have a system that works better for you, cool, but this system other than a couple of lens shaped holes is now extremely mature. IMO, the mojo is back. S5ii still rocks for longer form content and whilst SOOC it might have an image a fraction behind the older stuff and the newer kit, it takes hardly any effort to tweak it. As above, credit where credit is due and I was heading towards Nikon or Sony, but Lumix have done enough to have my loyalty and I am now 100% within L Mount. *Caveat; subject to the next 5 days real world test, ie, paid work that no amount of testing can replicate, but expect no issues as 3 of 4 cameras I have been working with for 1.5 years already and it’s only the S1Rii that is new*

Could well be and no idea either. I wouldn't knowingly buy stolen good myself, but I guess we'd never know, especially if the legit company selling them to you is the source.

100% I'd easily pick the II model over the III...and was considering it but scratched that itch with the Zf...and despite that being my favourite ever camera to shoot with, selling it, for the second time, but needs must. Anyone EU also want to buy a minty Zf?! 🤪

Nah, A7RV KILLS the A7CR. Unless you absolutely must have that body type, it has; better stab, MUCH better EVF and rear fully articulating LCD, twin type B CF Express with write back up (stills anyway, not sure about video) and is just a much better platform. I have one for sale if anyone wants one? EU only!! But that's not why I'm rating it well over the A7CR, - it's simply a much better camera in every regard except as above, unless you must have a rangefinderesque body.

I don’t know but it came from MPB UK with their standard 6 month used warranty and I doubt they’d deal in stolen goods. Most likely someone’s favourite YouTuber said, “actually, I know I just hopped over from Sony to LUMIX, but I’ve decided to now go to Nikon”. One of those talkers/collectors who never actually shoots, just talks and collects and maybe one day, when they have finally assembled all the right kit, will actually use it 🤷‍♂️

Well that is interesting… My ‘new’ S1Rii came with firmware v1.2 and Arri log C3 installed so some mug just bought and sold this camera pronto to MPB and I snaffled it for £2700. Unless I am the mug and they sold it to MPB because of some fault…but then surely they would have sent it back for a full refund to wherever they bought it on the first place? Someone probably lost over £750 in depreciation + Arri license… Not that I can use it because my other 3 Lumix cameras will never get option. Instead, looking forward to giving @Andrew Reid option a whirl, but it’s finding the time, - heavily bogged down with work at the moment…

It's arrived. First impressions = impressed. Feels like a very slightly chunkier S5ii and as it is taking over from a Sony A7RV (and a Nikon Zf), that is no bad thing. When it was first announced, I was disappointed on two counts... Count 01 = the body, - it was and is not a mini S1H. No top dial for one thing. Boo! Count 02 = it didn't have and still doesn't have the 61mp sensor from the A7RV/Leica SL3. Boo. Initially boo anyway. Count 03 = I am The Count and I like to count ha ha ha. (Bonus Count) But over time, these two 'issues' have become non-issues for me. The body first. Yes, I would rather it had the top LCD and was it's own design, but they have addressed my criticisms of the OG S5 and S5ii which were less than great rear LCD and horrible clacky shutter. It does have a sort of mini S1H feel, despite the lack of a top LCD. Summary, in reality, in the hand, I genuinely like it and everything works exactly or at least very similar to, how I am used to with the S5ii's, but just better. And the 44mp sensor over the 61mp? Came to the conclusion that 61mp was overkill anyway and was always shooting in 26mp mode so with the new Panny, I will actually be shooting in a higher resolution. Most importantly of all though, this has been an exercise in both downsizing my overall kit; this year from 5 bodies and 9 lenses to 4 bodies and 7 lenses, and then in 2026 (or poss later this Summer) from 7 down to 6 lenses. And all 4 cameras with the same batteries, menus and very close manual controls. Setting it up now for stills duty across 5 days from the end of this week and then it will also be on hybrid duty from mid Aug. Looking forward to pulling some 7.2...1k frame grabs.

...and then mere nano-seconds later, thought, nah. I am in the process of trading my Sony A7RV and Nikon Zf for a Lumix S1Rii. Why? Brings it all in house as my 3 video units are Lumix so it makes sense to have my stills camera also Lumix for cross compatibility. I will miss both however... The A7RV has been my workhorse 'pro' camera for 1.5 years now and it just delivers and never disappoints, at least when it comes to build, handling and most importantly results. HOWEVER, it has only one 'fault' and that is as much as I like and respect it, there is something missing, - that 'if a camera had a soul' thing. The Nikon Zf on the other hand is hands down the best shooting experience stills camera I have ever owned...and I have had dozens. BUT, only with small AF primes. It is probably fantastic with MF primes, but I have never tried and I didn't care much for it with the 3 adapted Tamron E Mount primes I have tried with it. Nope, works best with the Smallrig grip and the plastic fantastic 40mm f2 SE lens. If it's so fantastic, why sell it? Well at one point, I was hoping that Sony would indeed pop out an RX1Riii, ie, my A7RV in a 'rangefinderesque' style body, but probably at a stupid price. And guess what, they have done exactly that! Would I trade my Zf for that? Not a chance. Would I trade the A7RV for one? Are you having a laugh? But trade both for an S1Rii that kind of straddles the gap between the two...if you squint a little. Yes.

99% of the people on YouTube cannot be called 'creators' unless the word is applied after the word 'content' and that followed with, 'for the sake of' and more often than not, proceeded by the word 'banal'. An endless stream of copycats with very little originality. It does exist (originality) but there isn't very much.

And the industry is fairly confident it's the same sensor in the S1Rii, so I have exactly the same thing, albeit just like an octopus that has had 7 of its 8 limbs removed. Kind of...

I think it will come in a firmware upgrade. Or from Santa Claus at Christmas if I'm a really good boy for the rest of the year. I'm sure of it.

7.1k even. I was getting a bit carried away there referring to 7.2k…

Sorry, another Q re. cards... So for stills, pretty sure I'm OK as I was using these cards for S1R previously but it's 7.2k 30p video I am thinking about more. I'd rather avoid dropping a ton of cash on this, unless I absolutely have to, but I have: 3x Prograde 256GB 250/MB/s (V60) cards and I 'presume' 7.2k (and what I suspect is 300 Mpbs?), will write to these OK (as back up) with the primary files being written to my single Prograde 256GB 1700 MB/s CF Express card? Or is this CF Express not good enough for 7.2k footage?? The other option...and especially because CF Express is soooooo much cheaper than SD, is to pick up a Prograde 3400 MB/s CF Express card at €226 for a 512GB or €392 for a 1TB and switch out the SD's if they become full. But you can get, what 4 hours of 8k Vlog on a 256GB card and shooting purely clips, even over a full weekend, I can't see that ever happening...so a 1TB CF Express is probably massive overkill? My other 3 cameras are quite happy writing 4k or 6k to 128GB 'silver' cards and I have plenty of storage in that regard so it's only the new big boy I need to do something with.

Does anyone know where I can find the Mpbs numbers for the S1Rii? They have an extensive data sheet here: https://av.jpn.support.panasonic.com/support/global/cs/dsc/connect/sd/dc_s1rm2.html And they go on about not exceeding 600 Mpbs, but where exactly is that data?! I'm pretty sure the 7.2k 30p is below that (300 maybe, but guessing) for Vlog, but I ought to check before splashing the cash...

I should add that I will NOT be shooting raw but 7.2k 30p open gate Vlog when I do get to using for video. Raw I think is just a step too far for me and as my other 3 cameras do not support it, no point.

Eek. Well mine is coming used from MPB so maybe it's one that you sent back 🤪 I'll see how it goes but for me it's really intended as a 'secondary/occasional' use lens, almost exclusively outdoors in good light. I'm still not 100% I even need it but as I transition over to fully L Mount, it fills a gap. For now... What cards are you running? I have an older Prograde 256GB 1700 MB/s CF Express and a Prograde 256GB 250 MB/s card that I was using in the old S1R. For my next 2 jobs, (5 days in a row from this Friday), I will only have these for the S1Rii on it's first two outings and will ONLY be shooting stills, so these should be fine.\ But beyond that, from mid Aug, I will start shooting hybrid and as I have to invest in some new cards, it would be a good idea to get something 'approved' just to help minimise any potential overheating. I'm also trying to do the math on what size cards as it's generally cheaper to buy more smaller cards than less big (capacity) cards...

Good to know. This is not going to be a ‘workhorse’ lens for me, but rather something to ‘fill in holes’ if you know what I mean and much more for photo than video and especially as a walk around one stop shop landscape lens. Yes I think it will work very well. I considered the 70-300 but decided I wasn’t really gaining anything over the 70-200 I already have except a less good lens. Also the Samyang 35-150 but I’d need (want) the battery grip for that and were back into big boy territory and no thanks. 28 and 40 are my to ‘go to’ focal lengths below 50 that I prefer to work with. They have a certain kind of look and especially with 28, it’s about as wide as you can go before any distortion begins to appear. So yes, ultimately and as soon as possible, I do want this lens because it ticks every single box I have below 50mm. Exactly why I chose it over the f2.8. Optically it’s very good and it’s actually OK in low light. And I think it’s slightly lighter even than the 28-45 Sigma?! Real world about the same but about as big and heavy as I prefer to go. I think so. Pretty confident that it will comfortably replace the A7RV and Zf, both cameras I love. The combo of glass, slightly less but I am going from 3 different mounts/brands to 1 single and that is a big deal plus 1 less body and 3 less lenses. It’s a good decision. I’ll find out next week when I am using it, but today (I’m on a job) back to the Sonykon’s!

I’ve just picked up this lens. Or at least it’s arriving Monday. There are still some big black holes for me within L Mount glass but I came to the conclusion yesterday that this lens could have a place in my kit. I have been back and forth on the 28-105 and the 28-45 and would 100% have gone for the 28-105 had it been internal zoom which for anything 1kg or over, is a 99% must have. But it isn’t and I’m not going to say never to this lens, but right now, it doesn’t suit me even though the focal range and aperture are great. The 28-45 is probably happening, but going to shoot a few weddings on the new all L Mount set up first because it could work in isolation, but really I would like to pair it with a lens that does not, )but I hope will soon) exist; the 45-90mm f1.8 internal zoom. But in the meantime, I have the 70-200mm f4 (internal zoom!) for indoor work and will now have the 28-200 for outdoor, more stills than video I think, but we’ll see… I hate the external zoom but on a lens that weighs sub 500g, I can live with it. Also, by limiting myself to these smaller primes and zooms, I can skip the battery grip which for something like the 28-105, becomes essential to me for handling purposes, but I would rather keep everything as compact and light as possible without sacrificing too much performance. 4 bodies + 3 primes + 3 zooms gives a lot of options/combinations and as things stand is not only 1 less body than I have been using to date, but 3 rather than 2 less lenses so an even bigger bonus.

The 7.2 will be my new go to over my current slightly less than 6k from the S5ii. At least I think it is… 5.9 or something? Anyway… The 8.1 limited to 24p is a bit of a bummer but hey ho. I have not done any ‘scientific’ testing, but switched to that approach 1.5 years ago for other reasons, but I felt my work looked better immediately. Also using a 1/8th mist VND I am sure is responsible for zero moire. Ever. Plus ability to bake in the LUT plus twin card recording caused 4 winning points over Nikon, but Nikon does counter with superior lens options, especially with adapter E Mount as part of the equation. Super-tight call for me but the 4 winning points narrowly beat out the glass for me. They have 2 holes in the lineup for me: An equivalent of the Tamron 70-180mm f2.8 which is MUCH smaller and lighter than the Lumix or Sigma 70-200’s and there is NOTHING in L Mount even close. An equivalent to Sony’s 50-150mm f2. Grail lens right there for me. I now do not care about the weight because is just the PERFECT lens for me but in order to have it, I’d need to build a Nikon or Sony based system around it and Sony doesn’t even have 6k (yet, but less than great 8k in the A7RV and then you have to go AII or whatever it’s called) and with Nikon, a ton of stuff I’d need to give up. For pure stills, Nikon. For pure video, Lumix. For hybrid, I could make a case either way and have done based on capabilities for my specific needs sacrificing my perfect lens to do it with Lumix.

Bingo. If you are a paid up member of the L Mount Alliance, then you use an S5ii for this specific task. Otherwise the rest of this overheating hype is just that, over-excited hype. OK I get the expectation that just because the S5ii or the FX3 can do X then the new Lumix cameras should, but actually maybe not and the S1Rii especially is a photo-centric hybrid that can do excellent video and even the S1ii is not really a ‘cinema’ camera but a hybrid. Just use the right tool for the job!