Video Hummus

We really need two official R5 and R6 sticky topics. We have like 4 threads going with almost the exact same title discussing same things,

Looks really solid. What lens did you use? I think projects like yours are an excellent example of a use case for a future GH6. If the GH6 offered a solid 4K up to 120p unlimited recording. Vastly improved autofocus. A bright and accurate Flip LCD and one of the newer EVFs. They already have the excellent and much loved XLR hot shot adapter. Add in some kind of useable internal RAW recording. Full Vlog and 1 stop extra DR from GH5S (12.5-13). They would have an excellent and light camera that would punch above its weight. Without the need for an external recorder and with excellent add-on audio interface when the job requires it. It’s pretty clear that FF isn’t quite there yet sub cinema camera costs. RS issues. Overheating issues. Crop modes to fix those issues or low MP stacked sensors that remove the “hybrid” from the mirrorless camera that everybody wants. I hope Panasonic is taking notes.

Will be interesting to see if he sticks with using the R5 for vlogging. Sounds like the overheating issue will pop up every time he vlogs with it. The DR in video hasn’t caught up with Sony either. Still a huge void left for someone like Panasonic to take advantage of with either a GH or S camera. They just need good AF, and that’s all they need really. Its pretty clear messaging from Canon. They view these as kinda hybrid cameras but mostly photo cameras. If you want Canon for video is currently C200/300/500. Honestly the R is still the better YouTuber vlog camera. R6 falls short with all the gotchas. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a video from any of the Canon YouTube personalities that they are sticking with the R.

15mm is pretty damn wide. Very hard to eliminate wobble without doing a digital crop EIS.

I’m not so sure. I think it’s more about them shaping the market then not being able to come up with a cooling solution after 5+ years of development.

Missed marketing opportunity here Canon.

Why didn’t Canon just stick a Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro in the body? It would probably fit and doesn’t need active cooling so wouldn’t over heat. Someone needs to do a tear down of the R5 internals.

If they release the rumored firmware that adds Clog3 for more DR and If you have no temperature limits on pixel binned 4K modes, then the R5 is the camera to get for people with RF or EF glass. The more we learn of the R6 the less of a bargain it becomes. I wouldn’t plug anything into that micro hdmi port. They switched to the micro hdmi port for a reason. HINT: it wasn’t space savings.

Time for a weekend holiday with your GFX100 for some fresh air

I’m also thinking the R5 makes more sense. I wonder if sony is scrambling to put in recording limits and temperature limits in their firmware that are 15-20 mins above what the R5 has now 😂 for the A7SIII. If the rolling shutter on the R5 is good in the 4K pixel-binned modes then there is enough recording options to work around the RS and temperature recording limits. Youtube videos can use the pixel binned 4K modes on the R5 and no one will notice or care. Use the 8K RAW for short challenging high DR scenes. Use the 4K120p and 4K HQ for short clips that need something extra. Not sure the R6 has the same flexibility even with future firmware updates.

Hopefully

That’s why its a camera conspiracy. I’ve never seen a industry like the camera industry. It’s weirdly opaque in the hardware department. Can’t tell if it’s incompetence or genius.

Indeed. Pretty much worry free AF at this point.

Looks like manual focus to me.

Yeah, so I’m not sure I see much downside in shooting in the pixel-binned modes for longer records. Save the 4K HQ oversampled mode and 8K RAW for those challenging shots. I’m also glad the R5 has the CFExpress slot. I know media is expensive but its a future proof storage medium. The A7SIII is rumored only to have SD, so probably no internal RAW, and the typical anemic sony codecs and bitrates.

Is pixel binning from 48mp on the R5 even that bad? The A7Riv pixel bins from 60mp and it looks really good. So the R5 in pixel bin mode might be worth the money over the R6

Exactly. Sony does well with DR, certainly better than Canon. I don’t know anything but I doubt they are going to regress in DR performance compared to A7iii

Yes, at least for A9 stacked sensor. The larger pixels will probably balance it out. A9 is 24MP this is half that.

Looks like a stacked 12MP sensor (could potentially be quad-bayer but unlikely stacked and quad). Same tech in A9ii just lower MP. I suspect the readout speed will be blistering with no RS problems at all. Looks good to me. FF doesn’t need a quad-Bayer sensor anyway, unless you like to shoot only in moon light. Noise performance will most likely be more than acceptable, stellar even. Now, the big question is bitrates and codec and IBIS. Will they have this outperform their FX-9 darling? Doubt it,

Dual processors being advertised...uh oh. Olympus did the same thing and they are headed for the exits. Usually means lack of funds for investing in better tech.

They do! They want you to buy CanOn C200/300/500 and hopefully we will get a new C100 or XC style RF Mount camera. There was no-way Canon was going to release an R5 with unlimited 8K/4K120p, oversampled 4K video with DPAF in all modes without some cripple hammering. Let’s get real. What they did release was excellent hybrid cameras. If anything they drew a solid line in the sand about their philosophy going forward. They very much see their Cinema line as the place to go for video work. I think its an exciting release, overheating gotchas and all.

Yes, they have had a complete package for 3 years now minus AF. You would think it would be essential for them to get it right this time... GH5 got more things right then wrong, by far. They could add PDAF, keep the current feature set and maybe add 10-bit in all modes and they would be competing with the latest cameras just released. It doesn’t have to be PDAF or whatever. It could be mythical perfect DfD system if the hunting is gone, the pulsing is not noticeable, and it tracks correctly. So for as much as 2020 has sucked ass, its shaping up to be an exciting camera year.

Looking at the body weight. R5 - 738 grams GH5 - 725 grams Both have IBIS, similar batteries. I think we know why the damn thing potential has overheating problems.

So true. 🤣

Product segmentation, perhaps? I think there has been 4 important aspects of the R5 release: 1) internal RAW took a baby step to becoming mainstream. 2) 10-bit 4:2:2 Log recording is the new baseline. 3) 4K HFR (anything higher than 60p) is the new slow motion benchmark. 4) You no longer need gloves in the winter when operating your mirrorless camera.