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If this camera had come with internal electronic ND and global shutter then this entire forum would be up and on their way to the underwear drawer walking like that Honda robot.

I wish one of these gobshites would have the courage of their convictions and instead of the shocked faced gurning thumbnail pronouncing "This Changes EVERYTHING !" they just had one with them shrugging and saying "This Changes NOTHING !". Camera companies are getting away with this tiny incremental facelift versions because they know these clowns have to keep stoking the click generator so won't ever offer up more meaningful commentary. In that respect, the urban cowboy could have actually displayed some credibility if he'd made that type of commentary video about it instead of just swerving it completely. I don't want this faux "GAME CHANGER!" nonsense as the reality is that there are seldom any releases that genuinely shock anymore. We want genuine, shit your pants, wow releases. Less "GAME CHANGER!" and more "UNDERWEAR CHANGER!".

To virtue signal that he isn’t a gear pimping shill, he’s declining to review a camera that he doesn’t rate ? Surely the best way of doing that would be to do a review and actually state that he doesn’t rate it IN THE FUCKING REVIEW. You know, like someone who actually reviews gear rather than just blindly promotes it would do. Another twat in a hat.

I like the look of the EVF as well.

Immediately put me in mind of this. ”No, she went of her own accord “

The line was absolutely leapt over for me when we started to see £1500+ MFT bodies. I haven’t bought anything new since 2019 and even then it was because I was developing products that necessitated it. Obviously, I’m an addict, so I’ve bought other cameras since but they’ve all been used ones and if I was to buy a new one again then I would be fishing in shallower waters where there is some great value like the X-M5 and Z50ii. I am definitely getting a used Z8 in the winter as it’s as peak camera as I would need and is also peak price as I’d be prepared to pay these days. And at the point at which I buy it, then it will only have taken me two years and a half years to finally pull the trigger. For someone with the impulse control of Jim from American Pie, I’m counting that as progress.

That’s honestly my favourite bit! They need to have a proper hardcore mode where you can only “carry” four rolls of “film” with you and use the app like Pokémon Go where have to go and find a virtual chemist or photo store nearby to get another roll when you run out. I’d make these virtual shops have opening hours as well ! Would be a big fan of the app making you have to load the “film” into the app in the dark and you then having to do all your “developing” in the app with the screen having a faint red glow across it. You could even use the gyro sensors in the device to make you have to agitate the “film” to develop it. I wouldn’t even be averse to you having to post off for a code when you’ve shot a roll of “film” using a reversal simulation and then having to wait a week to get a code back that will unlock the roll and develop it with a non changeable preset process.

And underlensed. And overbrod with the wrong type of shills. Marketing/timing’s loss is our gain now at those prices, particularly with the 18-40mm lens. The Hybrid Zoom function they introduced with the S9 and now have on the S5ii etc makes it an 18-62mm in 4K and 18-125mm in HD. This cheap HDMI powered EVF that popped up on here recently might also be a good “in the pocket in case” pairing.

An EVF less Z30 with a big screen sounds very much like one of these to me.

You might want to have a look at the Xreal range https://www.xreal.com

Make that seven if you live in Europe with the S5D.

You really have embraced the French culture.

I feel for them a little bit. Full-frame mirrorless camera with a 24.1MP partially stacked CMOS sensor Powered by a Venus Engine for fast processing, refined colour and low noise Over 15 stops of dynamic range with Dual Native ISO support 1.6x faster Phase Hybrid AF system with 779 focus points and AI tracking Records uncropped 5.1K open gate video at up to 60p and 6K at 30p Supports 5.9K 60p and 5.8K Apple ProRes internal recording via CFexpress C4K and 4K video recording up to 120p in 10-bit for high frame rate capture 10-bit HEIF captures rich tonal detail, smaller file sizes and HDR-ready stills Real-time LUT preview and false colour for on-set monitoring Features 8-stop in-body image stabilisation without crop 32-bit float audio recording achieved via optional XLR adapter Dual card slots with CFexpress Type B and SD UHS-II support Supports direct USB-SSD recording for high bitrate capture and fast offloading Compatible with UltraSync BLUE for wireless Bluetooth timecode sync Blackout-free electronic burst shooting up to 70fps for fast action capture Tilt and vari-angle 3.0-inch LCD with 1.84M-dot resolution 5.76M-dot OLED EVF with 100% frame coverage and high refresh rate Dust and splash-resistant body, weighing only 800g Includes a 3-month Capture One licence in the box After producing something with that spec, they're entitled to be a bit like.. By the same token, we are probably entitled to say "we might have been a couple of years ago and if it was cheaper". I've said it before but the S5ii continues to be Panasonic's problem child in that it raised expectation for the 2nd generation of cameras and at a price that was pretty surprising. That camera got the upgraders from Panasonic's MFT cameras (myself included) and this new one is asking the question "2x the price, 2x the camera?" for both the holdouts of to the MFT system and those who already moved up to the S5ii and are looking to go up again. I think it probably is 2x the camera for some people but I can't see anyone who isn't in the L mount prison (and that is what L mount is) walking into a shop and paying 50% more for it over the Z6iii let alone paying the 10% more than a lightly used Z8. Hard reality is that they are not Nikon, Canon or even Sony and they're going to struggle with flagship cameras. Annoyingly for them, they can create the cameras that will attract a premium price technology wise and produce a fine image as they've been doing it for years with Leica branded versions but, again, when it comes to the other type of image they aren't Leica. They have the opportunity to do a FujiFilm and offer an alternative but they've left them to it to pursue two companies that absolutely out heritage them and another company that they are at the mercy of when it comes to sensors. This will all end with someone at corporate HQ dispassionately looking at the Lumix division and striking a red pen through it. Exactly like what happened to Samsung. Cameras that I think they could look at doing to offer some difference would be : New GX80 with the bulk of the GH7 inside or at the very least the GH5 and then not charge a stupid amount of money for it as it should be possible for sub £1000. A Super35 bridge camera with a 7x or even 5x zoom, no compromise video internals, ND and then not charge a stupid amount of money for it as it should be possible for sub £2000. Essentially a grown up version of the FZ2000. I'd buy either of those and I don't think I'd be alone. Currently, Lumix are like the smart, quirky indie girl that you fell in love with and now ten years later she's got hair extensions, fake tits, a trout pout and two ton of fillers because she wants to be a Kardashian.

Even with 'Arry Log you have to be careful exposing it.

I've now got a vision of the prostitute reaching for the marketing team's trousers and whispering "Lets Get Undone". Thanks for that.

Here’s a little tip for anyone being gaslit into believing they are friends with a corporation. Friends don’t have to threaten friends with a €35K fine for releasing their free marketing material a few minutes early. Friends don’t even have to ask.

Maybe they went with that old fashioned notion of believing that the actual President of the United States wouldn't say that Canada is the 51st state unless it had any basis in reality whatsoever. Schoolboy error that one.

'Arry Log would definitely be played by Alan Ford.

Out of interest, here is a "6x the price, 6x better?" comparison of the two lenses. I have the cheaper one and it is indeed a great little lens.

One of the key parts of what makes an NDA enforceable in the UK is the consideration of a power imbalance between the parties. ”Parties should not attempt to take unfair advantage of any imbalance in power during the negotiation of an NDA” I’d like to see the outcome of “$58Billion Revenue/230K Employees company Vs Blogger” in respect of trying to make that fine stick. There is also a part in excluding its enforcement if you divulge the contents to law enforcement. So if it was re-using the same S5ii body shell then you could legally have walked out of the restaurant and into the nearest police station and announcing to the duty officer “I would like to report a crime”.

That’ll be a €25K fine for L-Mount Rumours for leaking it to the Vatican the other day then.

And the prices will be doing a Status Quo as well. Unless you are in America of course.

I don’t really agree with “if you can’t beat them, join them” attitude to stuff like this. Being a right wing imbecile is very much on the rise but it doesn’t mean we should just fall into line with it. AI should be used for taking away mundanity like doing the dishes and laundry from our lives to free us up to do the fun and creative stuff not steal that from us. I’ve got admiration for whoever’s work was used to “train” this but only contempt for those who are facilitating and grifting on the blatant theft of original work. Do you not see that these tools that you are espousing will only make that situation immeasurably worse ? This will literally give these people the ability to say “yeah just make that last one again with a slight variation and set in a different location” and churn this shit out even faster and with waaayyyy more profitability than they do now ?

Does this mean that those specialist art films his wife made back in the old country will now have a 100% tariff ?

My favourite AI outcome would be for it to fuck right off.