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Yeah I don't understand how they, BM, have picked up the pace as much as they have with just going from 4k to 4.6k? They sure did some good Mojo on their processing to make it happen that is for sure. They are like night and day.

Yeah I always lean toward that Arri look. They have mastered the film look way above anyone else. Resolve has some nice Arri LuTs built in.

Well no doubt the lower end cameras are not going to look like a Arri or a Red Lol. If so they would never sell another one to anyone. If you want a great look, you are going to pay a great price, new or used.

I sure as heck know my AF100A is a lot more forgiving using CineLikeD over VLog. Christ VLog is like get it perfect exposure wise or your goose is cooked!

This is a chart for types of ProRes. Might help out some people down the road to figure out which one to use. https://documentation.apple.com/en/finalcutpro/professionalformatsandworkflows/index.html#chapter=10%26section=2%26tasks=true

True but they are at the least using ProRes 4444.

Well yeah you said the magic word, Raw! That is the secret, and is what makes a Arri, Red, Sony F55, etc., BM stand out. Big time movies are not shot in ProRes LT LoL.

Yeah Fincher does have a "different" mix of both a Film And a Digital look to his later stuff. His films even have a different Cadence to others. I guess him and Brad Pitt are going for it again. http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/04/david-fincher-brad-pitt

Well, you know you have the skill set to probably solve a lot of their problems LoL.

That VW Bug in that film looks like a 1966-1967. That is when I first was there 1967. Maybe late 1966? So hell I might have been riding in that Bug!!

Yeah but this bad press, deserved or not, about half ass AF is a REALLY big problem for them now. Even Panny fans are holding back, just think about people that are thinking about jumping ship, what they are thinking. This is Not a good thing for them, Panny. If Sony comes out with some new, better mouse trap, A great A7III, well it might be game over if this new camera that is suppose to come out is a 7 grand or more, and the GH5 AF sort of never lives up to spec as well as we would want. And the Low light, DR bragging has not really come to true like they said. They have a nice camera here in the GH5, great has yet to be proven! I can tell you it is not on my radar. No way. I will hold out to see what Sony comes out with first if I am buying anything new. And these Firmware upgrades are more smoke and mirrors than real benefits. 400mbs All-I is well, not what I would want, not in a body the size of a GH5. I can think of a better codec than that. It starts with a R.

Well I think Digital looking camera output wise is along the same lines of Records compared to CD's. Yeah records sound better, but then they don't! Well guess who won, CD's. I think Digital is going to win, and win big time 10 years form now, maybe sooner. I hate VR, but I bet it will be way more popular than 3D was, not saying much I guess LoL. Times change, and if you are trying to make money you better change also, young or old. I will agree, Panasonic has helped the little guy, but Sony has pushed them harder, than I bet they wanted to, on their own. At least Sony has a greater upgrade path, video cameras wise, than Panasonic does. Panny has really screwed up on that part I think. Why would you let Sony, Canon, even BM, just hand your ass to you?? Hell even Red. I know company's don't sell a lot of the higher end video cameras, but it is the pride of it, the keeping you in the brand of it that counts. Like I said, who the hell is jumping from a GH5 to a Varicam LT? They are 14k at the least. From 2k to 14k, yeah right! That right now is pretty much their stupid ass video camera gap!

Oh I am sure that is has not changed other than the cars and a few rules. That is what I love about Europe, it had Not changed! You are luckier that you think. You have to love stability over rampart progress any day. That is Americas downfall I think. No love for the past. Just go, go, go. Not a goal that can last very long. And not a very fun way to spend your life, always in the rat race compared to a laid back lifestyle of of my favorite city of Naples LoL. I know, you like Rome better.

Well I guess there is a time to just embrace that this is 2017, not 1950. The Digital look is here to stay like it or not. 4k is in, 720 is out. I think as a hobbyist I would love to keep the film look alive. But like I said, if I am trying to make a buck, put food on the table, I don't think a lot of cameras we associate with the Filmic look is going to cut it when you have to take any job that comes up. It has to be a later Sony, later Panasonic, later Canon C series, and yes even a GH4, and it seems the GH5 Has to be in the mix as they say. There is no going back. For fun a BMPCC, 5D mkIII, for money making a Sony A7 mkII, Panny GH5. Bigger money stuff, Canon C series, Sony FS5 middle ground price. Canon C100, C300 probably the best overall for a balance between Film look, Digital look I think hands down. The Sony's, well the low light of them damn hard to turn down, but the worse looking Digital look to me. I think Panny is in the middle. And overall price wise, I think, very hard to beat. For kind of serious modeling stuff, indie, short films the BM Ursa cameras Have to be in there. Price wise it has to be considered. Sony FS5 also. I like the Usra maybe better overall. But not as mature as the Sony Products. So that tips it in Sony's favor a bit. But showing up with a Sony will get you more jobs than the BM sad to say. Now I am talking about making a living here, not for a hobby, fun. Hobby, well BM products, the lower end ones, 5D mkIII way up there now with ML. Just my rambling thoughts about the industry as a whole if I had to do it all over again. Food for thought, and debate as they say. A add on here. I think Panasonic, what ever this New camera they are talking about NEEDS this damn camera. It has to be under 6k, maybe even less. They have a Big ass gap in their products. It has to be filled for anyone to take them serious. To be able to move up from a GH5. People are not going from a GH5 to a Varicam LT. Get a grip!! They are sucking hind tit for not having a AF100 product like in the past in their lineup. The CEO of Panasonic needs his ass kicked for ever letting this happen. I mean it! Stupid, just plain damn stupid. Sony has handed their Ass to them because of it with the FS5, Canon with the C100, BM with the Ursa 4.6. Hell even the JVC LS300. And no the Panasonic AG-DVX200 does not count. It has been a total flop for them. Lots of early problems with it. It ruined its potential even if they get all the bugs worked out. They threw it out the door too quick! It would be hard for me to buy one, even used. It is more of a ENG style camera anyways.

Well this damn video shows how old I am for the first time I was in Lisbon! It says Rare Color Footage! Jesus Christ!!! Shit I feel old Lol. And yes I have been there, hell maybe I am in the video shot! I was probably that drunk guy in the Maze at the end! What do you think, Super 8mm?? Might be 16mm?

Oh I totally agree. If I was younger, starting over, and had a good amount of money, or a backer, that does happen at times, I would buy the Varicam 35 Any day over the Arri anytime to make a living shooting. The Arri is really best at making full blown movies, not doing the day in, day out stuff, you have to shoot, to make a living doing whatever comes up. The Varicam is Way better suited for that, hands down. The GH5 beats any Sony right now, A7---, A6---- out right now all day to make a buck shooting. It is a workhorse just like a Varicam is. You are right. If you want to make money for not a lot of money, buy a GH5 today. It is just that simple.

Oh I agree. I love that video. That's why I posted it. I know a ton of people on here love the "Panasonic Look", or they would not be as popular as they are if we didn't. I would not have a Panny AF100A, Panny G7 if I didn't like it. Hell Jon would be out of luck without his G85 LoL. A heck of a lot of us do like the Varicam 35 look. But I am not sure I would trade a Arri Alexa for a Varicam 35. Hmm, that may be a bridge too far. But I am older than you, not much, but I am. But they are 4k, and that is a big plus going forward for it. Oh and that should say Baked in not Backed in on my above comment LoL..

Well I don't think what ever you do the GH5 is not going to look like a Ursa 4.6. BM cameras have magic Pixie dust sprinkled on them LoL. They do know how to get a great look out of them. Panasonic has never done that, even with the Varicam 35. This is what Panasonic Thinks a Varicam 35 is Suppose to look like output wise. And in it's own right it is very beautiful, very clean looking. But it is Not Filmic, it has a Digital camera look. This a really good video in my mind. But I think down the road they are probably going to be right and the rest wrong, like I said in a post above. Young people like that look, no they Love that look. But BM has the Filmic look, they have it in all their cameras, and I don't see how the backed in Varicam 35 Mojo, in the GH5, can be overcome. Maybe it doesn't need to be? I would sort of kill to have a camera with that look! Breathtaking video I think.

Yes you can overcome just about Any lighting condition as long as it is Consistent. That is the trick. Your VIP section sounds like a good plan. It is not going to be an easy task as you well realize. Just come prepared, that is 3/4 of the battle, be ready for any need. Big trouble is that having a very fast lens leads to OOF footage. Probably not as bad as it used to be when I shot, better higher ISO in cameras now help you out a bit. Heck even better controllable lighting also now. But you want to try to make it look as normal as it is. You are in a Dark restaurant, you Need to try to keep it looking that way. No easy task, but you are not the first one to have to shoot in this situation, Just take a deep breath and say it has and can be done LoL. Some restaurants have the ability to dim or brighten the lighting, you might luck out if they do. Positive thinking, a fair amount of talent, and a bit of luck thrown in, and you can accomplish just about anything. Words you just about Have to live by to make money shooting.

Wow that thing is smaller than I thought! That is like a Sony VG900. Make a hell of a good Run n Gun Camera.

This could end up being a Amazing advancement for Filmconvert!! http://www.doddlenews.com/news-room/nab-2017-filmconvert-shows-off-upcoming-cinematch-app/

A year old article, but none the less still interesting to see what the BIG boys use. http://www.dvinfo.net/article/acquisition/thoughts-on-the-panavision-millenium-dxl.html#prettyPhoto

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Yeah it has to be incredible the data that is moved around on these modern Digital Cameras. Scary stuff LoL.

I am guessing the 400mbs All-I will be No better than what we have now, other than maybe help with motion smearing, tearing. But for critical editing it will help, but at the cost of a LOT more data, ergo, needing a Bigger SD card. And I think your 3x times is in the ball park.