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10 hours ago, SRV1981 said:

1. Get the most out of my current x-t2.  The 50-140 2.8 seems like the best for indoor sports venues and I'll have to see how to balance SS and ISO.  If that doesn't cut it..

2. What system can be used for both photo/video handheld that can do well in lowlight, shoot moving subjects (track and field), and record video $5K and under?

3. What two systems would you go for to separate video/photo with the above needs?

I am not shooting weddings or professional sports etc. but would like high quality options.  I think of this as an exercise in problem solving.

1. I was thinking more about tweaking the autofocus settings to get more keepers. Do you use the whole range of 50-140mm? 

2. for photo, the cheapest way is probably to get a used DSRL and a fast lens. Do you want the camera to track the subject across the frame on its own? Then the newest Sony cameras are probably the way to go. But I can't think of a single camera that could be called "do it all perfectly"

3. Hard to say. Probably a used D750 with a third party 70-200mm f/2.8 lens. You gain close to a stop in noise performance. Not that much, but better than nothing. For video I'd go either to a X-T3 with it's beautiful IQ or A6600 for tracking autofocus. You might get the DSLR with lens for around 1500$, and the Sony with the upcoming Tamron 70-180mm for around 2500$. Owning two different 70-200mm lenses might feel a bit strange though. 

1 hour ago, keessie65 said:

ah. OK. ... but just wondering if HLG is not a huge improvement for Eterna.

HLG is implemented as its own mode with different color profile

32 minutes ago, keessie65 said:

No HLG?

he said he was happy shooting Eterna, so those settings are about improving on that

Before buying anything new, I'd try to get the most out of the X-T2. It's a good camera and if you tweak the settings you probably get a lot more keepers.

If you want to upgrade and the focus is the main priority, the cheapest way is probably the X-T3. This will also give you the flicker reduction for photos, helping to get the most out of the little light available.

If you want to improve on noise performance, you should get a full frame camera with a f/2.8 zoom. You could go for fast primes like the 200mm f/2.0 too, but that's costly. Personally I don't know if I would go this route, as I find the Nikon Z cameras not that great with focus, same goes for the Panasonic S cameras. And sony, which has very good focusing is lagging behind when it comes to codecs, bit depth and frame rate options. 

2 hours ago, DeesserLord said:

Show me your « filmic » footage with analog like 24p motion shot on the xt30 and A6000 if you want to prove me wrong .

Why should we proof you wrong? It's your turn to proof your point and show clips you shot yourself showcasing the problem. 

pretty easy to spot, there is no motion blur with her hair, so that's just a fast shutter speed. That's a user error if you wanna call it an error, maybe the user wanted that kind of effect, who knows. 

I think it's pretty safe to say now, that there is no problem with the X-T30 or the A6300, but that some users just need to learn the basics

Can you upload a clip showing the problem? Would be interesting to see different opinions on what causes it

1 hour ago, DeesserLord said:

It is well documented in other threads, just type the name of the camera

where?

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 just type the name of the camera + jittery or stutter in google

didn't find much. 

I know the A6300 has bad rolling shutter, but that's not really jittery. I associate jittery footage with the wrong shutter speed. Are you recording 4K on the Sony and Fuji and 1080p on the Canon? It might just be, that you don't see small defects with the low resolution of the Canon. 

I love the new film simulation though. Stills and video were shot in Classic neg:

I love the idea to emphasize on the viewfinder, material and build quality. But it's a very photographic centered camera. video features aren't even close to the X-T3. 

But Fuji is on a roll. The X-T3 was incredible, the X-T30 very good value and the X-Pro3 is just a one of it's kind. Really looking forward to the X-H2 and X-T4

I agree with androidlad, HLG places middle gray at a different spot and with that the DR shifts to the highlights but overall DR of F Log and HLG are the same. 

2 hours ago, Danyyyel said:

I mean I know for many only image quality count but for me other thing like viewfinder, body ergonomics, construction, AF etc count. Those funky little fuji with retro hipster style beauty before functionality is not for me.

That's funny, I seem to value the same things as you, but for me most fujis do a better job with the things you listed. At least for me. 

But personal preference is just that and that's why it's interesting to have different manufacturers 

I don't think the camera is bad at all. The problem I see is, that there are no lenses for it. Those two kit lenses? Hell no.
There isn't a single stabilized full frame lens you could use and wide angle is missing, especially primes. 

It feels like they just want to sell a few of those kits to beginners and have abandoned the enthusiast and pro crop camera market. 

Looks like no 10-bit or 4K 60p.
Those specs look like the E-M1II. the 237Mbps look nice at first, but with the E-M1II it was a variable bitrate and never really went above 100Mbps. Furthermore that's just available in DCI 4K. With 3840x2160p the E-M1II had a maximum bitrate of 100Mbps. 
Let's hope Olympus has addressed most of those things! 

Seems to be an update, that makes FCPX ready for the Mac Pro. But not too many new features. Noise reduction still doesn't work, at least not for me. 

tbh, the original E-M5 was one of the best looking cameras. this looks like it was influenced by the cheaper e-m10. I don't really like it. And rumor side says, there is more plastic in the build. Don't like that either. And the sensor seems to be from 2016. Guess what, don't like that either. 

It could still be a great camera. Olympus has one of, if not the best ibis system. It will come down to price. If it's around 900$ it could be a great deal, if it's beyond 1000$, I don't think it will really sell much

They announce, that they are cooperating to introduce widespreat gimbal and drone support. 

1 minute ago, IronFilm said:

As an X-A3 owner I welcome the price drops on the X-A5 caused by the announcement of the X-A7, as that is what I'll get next once I lose my X-A3 

Are you ok with the operational speed? I thought that the X-A models always felt sluggish, nowhere near the higher end models. It seems, the X-A7 fixes this now. 

20 minutes ago, androidlad said:

3.5" 1280 x 720 1000nit fully articulated touch screen.

That screen makes me jealous

Overall it looks like a great budget camera. Too bad it didn't get Eterna film simulation. 

Fuji didn't get the memo, that 24p adds a lot of cost to the camera. They just introduced their entry level camera.

6K to 4K downsampling, 23.98p, 24p, 25p, 30p, all without a crop it seems. 699$ including kit lens. 
No 120p Full HD slow mo though. It's said, that will come early 2020 with an update. 

Yeah, I do the same. Power the camera from a usb c source. Drainage of the internal battery is minimal. And when the camera is off, it get's charged. This way I don't need to change battery at all.

1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said:

Their X-Trans IV sensor technology has already debuted in the GFX 100 and X-T3

no X-Trans IV in the GF100. 
X-Trans is just the name of Fujifilms proprietary color filter array. Your pictures shows it. 
IV is the generation, the X-T3 has the 4th generation of those color filters. 

The GFX100, like the GFX50s and 50r, uses a Bayer color layout. 

4 hours ago, Dirk said:

There is a more compelling reason why Sony do not want / cannot fit their small bodied alpha 6 cameras with the IMX571 26 megapixel sensor.  The Fuji X-T30 with its 26 megapixel sensor has a huge over-heating problem  - that is why certain video modes are limited to 10 minutes. 

No, that's not a sensor thing. X-Trans is a lot harder on the CPU to demosaic and that's where most of the heat is coming from. It's a lot easier with Bayer Sensors. 
At the same time, I think the recording limit of the Fujifilm cameras is extremely conservative. I have shot the X-T3 in direct sunlight at a ambient temperature of over 30°C. Running 4K 60p I did two full recordings of 20minutes until I got the heat warning. After switching battery I did another 15 minutes. Didn't shut down either. 

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it does look as though Sony's decision makes sense doesn't it?

no. To me it sounds like a bad excuse

11 hours ago, michaldurovic said:

Waaaaaait, what? Who did the calculation, that if you read 2x2 you get 2.8K video? It would be if you had a 24MP sensor, because 2x2 is 4 so you divide 24MP by 4 and get 6MP, which is 3K sized video..... BUT..... we are talking about 32MP sensor, so 32MP divided by 4 is 8MP as a 4K video resolution! I bet there is some sort of certification they have to go through in order to say they record 4K, else we would have 4K 10 years ago from upscaled FullHD. The "4K is achieved by processing" is probably from the fact they use 2x2 binning. I had to make an account to discuss this, so please, comment on it, because the calculation does not make sense to me.

No. 32MP with a 3:2 aspect ratio. At 16:9 you get 6960x3915=27MP. And this with a pixel binning results in 27/4=6.8MP which is not really 4K. 

2 hours ago, amanieux said:

the only great thing about a6600 you don't even mention is continuous eye AF in video, do you know another camera that can do that ?

Funny. Actually it was Fujifilm that introduced eye AF to video a year ago with the X-T3. So yes, other cameras can do that

1 hour ago, amanieux said:

when comparing a6600 to xt30 of course xt30 is cheaper and better in some aspects but what about the 10 min max recoding time in 4k vs unlimited recording ? you should not nitpick your arguments but rather give an honest pros and cons list 

I don't think this post was about a pros and cons list. 
It was about two things:
1. Sony not introducing new hardware like a new, higher performing sensor 
2. Sony not doing anything new with it's codecs. XAVC-S has been out like what? 6 years? Back that it was state of the art. But at the moment, Sony is lagging behind by quite a bit. 

Those things need to be pointed out. It's like a kick in the a**. Otherwise Sony might become like Canon and only introduce marginal updates, maybe even removing features.