JurijTurnsek

Sony should've made a 1" action camera long ago. Who cares if it is a little bit bigger. However, I suspect that 4K would be a problem (overheating).

I've dropped my Sony NEX-5N from a +1 meter height 3 times and it still works like a charm. The battery door had to be reassembled and the click wheel sometimes gets stuck until the first press, but that body has been going at it for 4 years at least (and it's a consumer camera).

Does the GX have slight 4K crop? is there some downsampling involved? Sony put their bet on a higher mpx sensor and drop-dead gorgeus downsampled 4K image and went with the hunch that most of their customer shoot short clips.

Sony A6300 and Sasmung NX1 both downscale the original 6K sensor readout to a 4K picture. They could enable or be hacked to skip the downsampling and fill the buffer with the 6K stream and then offload it to memory.

Sony or Samsung should offer shooting in 6K of original data until the biffer fills an output that as either 6K jpg or even RAW frames. I know Panasonic offers a lot of creative uses for their 4K clips and grabs, but there is no harm in getting more resolution.

One thing to note though: until there are no consumer 4K global shutter cams, a mechanical shutter is still relevant for photos. Also RAW. And increased resolution for cropping etc. True convergence is really not there yet.

GoPro Karma DOA?

http://***URL removed***/news/8382440790/xiaomi-yi-ii-action-camera-updates-original-with-4k-video-faster-sensor

WVGA/240fps

720p/240fps

960p/120fps

1080p/120fps

1440p/60fps

2.5K/30fps

4K/30fps

The only downside that I see is that it does not come with waterproof case like GoPro does (so the price is not that low). However, the original was hacked - maybe this one will be too.

I do not recall this happening with the cheap kit Sony 16-50 PZ even when zooming full speed ... but I alway use auto iso and auto iris with shutter set manually (family videos, no professional work). Would the cheap Samsung PZ lens behave differently then the S lens?

7 hours ago, mercer said:

How does the ibis work in 1080p?

The Camera Store gave it a big thumbs down (go to 13:50):

37 minutes ago, forofilms said:

A7sii + 24-70 F2.8 G lens = $5000+

a6300 + 24-105 F4 (Canon/Sigma) + Speedbooster = $1800.

Big difference in my mind. Plus you get the extra reach of the 24-105 and IS!! Comparable image. A7sii maybe 2-stops better in low light. But I'll take the $3000 in my pocket. 

A proper comparison would be:

A7SII vs A6300 + Speedbooster, the lens staying the same (you get the same FOV and DOF). The price difference is much less dramatic, but still not small. And A7SII has IS with any lens.

46 minutes ago, hmcindie said:

You do gain an actual usable camera though

Depends on your usage - some people shoot short clips and desperately need fast AF for their still photography. A7S is a specialty tool, while A6300 is a great consumer camera that can also produce incredible 4K footage for a low price.

So, the eoshd forum crowd is most definitely better served by a7s, but you should not discourage the beginner on a budget who cannot afford to spend more than $1K on a body (and wants APS-C, not a m43).

2x the price and you loose the excellent AF.

The app has been updated to allow you to turn off that "you're using NTSC mode" message.

Wouldn't ML enable longer recording times? Also a used battery grip for 550d would be easy to find. GoPro is a no go, since the distortion would not let you get the right idea about what is going on on stage. Also battery life, lol.

The real takeaway here is that both companies are doing good (in a declining market) and that both systems have a future. Maybe Canon is doing a little worse and will have to innovate and Sony still remains an underdog that has to innovate hard. Hopefully, Sony will soon have the luxury to slow down and start on polishing the quirks and provide the absolute best system money can buy.

Looks like a great family photo/video camera.

And there goes the whole FF vs APS-C (Super 35mm) debate - how beneficial is the DOF difference between f2.0 on FF and APS-C? Why bother with the 1-stop better light gathering ability of FF lenses if you are going to negate this ability by stopping down, since you need DOF anyway. APS-C is a great compromise if you can get all your lenses for just that size (and not FF).

Now ask yourself if A6300 can produce the same IQ at f2.8 as a7s at f4.0? Is it worth it lugging around the bigger lenses? (that is, if you can live with A6300 shortcomings).

Also, one of these days a small no-screen 4K recorder might pop-up and breathe new life into a7s.

6 hours ago, IronFilm said:

RX10 mk2 is still superior! Constant f2.8 for the win

mk3 is not a replacement, it is a choice. And your choice probably got a bit cheaper, so mk3 FTW :P

I would not take advice on anything from vloggers, much less about cameras. /rant

Some user is reporting that opening the battery door eliminates overheating: http://***URL removed***/forums/thread/3983540

51 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

You're saying the FS7 is the same size as the 1D-X II?

Yeah, that was a strech. My bad. But I stand by my statement that Sony could 4K60p in a NX1-sized body.

13 hours ago, Jimmy said:

None that I know of, unless by mirrorless, you are also counting things like BM Ursa?

Sony FS7 ... physically almost the same size and the almost the same crop and almost the same price. Imagine what kind of tech Sony could squeeze in an A-mount DSLT body - but I'm thinking they don't want to compromise it with the long flange distance of A-mount. Still, the technology seems to be there to just produce a top of the line E-mount body the size of a NX1 and with a free A-mount adapter bundled in for free. Combine AF of A6300 and a7RII and you have a winner.

50 minutes ago, Michael Ma said:

Just a built-in fan and maybe a 3x larger battery, at very little cost to Sony, this would have been an amazing camera.

A 3rd-party grip could offer you both ... Meike, I'm looking at you, khm, khm.