JurijTurnsek

It seems that Tamron is expecting Canon/Nikon FF mirrorless with a short-flange mount, as it wants to offer the 28-75mm E-mount for the Canon/Nikon version in the future:
https://***URL removed***/interviews/2082884271/tamron-interview-our-strength-is-high-quality-lenses-in-a-compact-size

Funny you mention Terminator and Matrix ... they seem much more plausible (and evolutionary, so it can be supervised and managed). Ex-Machina just seems like some arts degree loonie's idea of how technology is created (by a single person with no oversight with incredibly fast progress).

We are getting way to off-topic, I just wanted to put it on record that the Ex-Machina is a total crapshoot of a movie. Your opinion may vary.

2 hours ago, Robert Collins said:

I bet you are fun at parties. Are we seriously suppose to judge science fiction films based on whether they are realistic or not?

In 'Annihilation' Elena says about the concept that the 'shimmer' is refracting all elements and not just light - that it is 'literally impossible' - is she actually complaining about the script?

This is not science fiction - this is the foreseeable future and it will (or already did) make people fear AI, robots and self-driving vehicles, just like Jaws made them fear salt water.

Ex-Machina was a shitpile of a film. All of humanities fate depending on code written by a single "genius" - that's not how software is developed, sorry guys.

TIL that you are a professional photographer (the one's that matter, anyway) if you shoot meaningless sports spectacles, where you basically spray and pray for two hours and then brag about the cost of your telephoto lenses.

Maybe we should ask some wedding photographers that might even like a lighter, smaller body, since they handle their cams for many more hours per working day. Or maybe there are different tools for different jobs? Sports photographers already have "the perfect tools", so why are you complaining about a product that could be heaven-sent for most and just not big enough for you?

14 minutes ago, Robert Collins said:

Theoretically sensor silicon gets cheaper every year while lens glass does not - so an extra 'equivalent' stop in sensor gets cheaper relative to an extra 'equivalent' glass stop. Stills shooters tend to be sensor size snobs so this argument is pretty much done. Video is different but I still think the tech will tend to converge to FF.

Larger sensors are pricier simply because the manufacturing process produces a certain percent of duds and that is an expensive mistake when the surface area of each FF sensor is so big. The price is coming down only because of increased sales volume and more competition (Sony has been especially aggressive in trying to obtain a larger market share). Also, selling bigger sensors means that you will be able to sell pricier lenses.

8 hours ago, Emanuel said:

4K/60p and internal 10-bit 4:2:2 for less than fast frame rates in such small form factor will be quite of a jump but feasible? No other chance to compete with the other contender, isn't it? ;-)

And some good video AF and the package is complete.

11 hours ago, meudig said:

They just put 4K in this one for the marketing. Look at all the review article headlines. Kinda sad really.

I feel sorry for the marketing team trying to promote such a compromised implementation. How would a sales person even explain the crop factor to a layman? Congrats, you tele is now super tele (but you shall never see wide again)!

On 2/17/2018 at 4:00 PM, Kisaha said:

So, If you are not a sports photographer, is the A7iii, for a portion of the money, a better option than the top-flagship-high end?!

Real world reviews of a9 show a 70-90% hit rate, so those 20pfs don't really get fully utilized. The same AF module could give you a better hit rate at the "meager" 7fps.

Canon-catch-22: do you leave 4K our and have people bitch about that or do you implement it in a incredibly limited way and have people bitch about that?

Also: Panasonic has 4K working for 1" sensors (looking at you, Sony RX100) and up to FF (Leica). However, Pana is stuck using CDAF, so maybe others have to dedicate too much of their CPU time to PDAF.

Panasonic and Olympus are hard proof that 4K processing can be a non-issue even in small bodies (as was Samsung with NX500). This is proprietary know-how and that is why Fuji, Sony, Canon and Nikon struggle with their implementation. When one brand figures it out, they don't go rushing to the competition to share their knowledge. And the issue lies with processing power and the heat generated from CPU and not so much the sensor - a hot sensor will only read more noise, but will not melt the whole camera body.

2 hours ago, Mattias Burling said:

How dare they make stuff for people with less money. Only rich people should be allowed to take pictures.

That is what the older models are for. This is just a disposable DSLR body.

Haha, this is soooo offtopic and,  ... wait for it ..., stupid. Film-makers drawing conclusions about people's intelligence based on which cameras they buy. And some even telling their children that 3/4 off them are dumb and presuming that their own offspring don't act stupid in any situation. I mean, you could make a case that a lot of people just don't put in the effort for some critical thinking, but there is always some reason behind seemingly "stupid" behavior.

I've stated more than once, that most consumers don't salivate over specs and message boards for the best gear, since a day only has 24 hours and we all need to prioritize. We/they need to believe that a sales person is aware that a satisfied customer returns and the customer you sell shit to, does not. And even on this forum, we can agree that a DPAF and the simplicity of use of Canon's products is something you would sell to a non-tech-savvy customer and that a film-maker will not even need advice in the store, but will have had made his decision at home.

How can this be?? You can shoot feature films on iPhones now!

I would think that the amazing stills read speed from 24mpx a9 would indicate a possible 12mpx (almost) global shutter sensor for the future a7SIII, if the choose to keep it at 12mpx.

We should understand "normies" and enthusiast/PROs and take our conclusions from there: normal people need something cheap, reliable and good enough, which perfectly describes the Canon entry line. 1080p is enough, because it looks as good as 4K from a tiny smartphone sensor. Smaller file sizes make for easier sharing, because that is what happens to that footage - you share it as quickly as possible. Also, having a sort of monopoly for many years now gives you a great physical store presence, which is paramount to a normie.

Then you have enthusiasts/PROs who may prefer Canon color and DPAF above all or may be bound by their previously bought lenses. In any case, this is a much smaller market and Canon knows that. They optimize cost, because total volume of shipped cameras is going to fall no matter the innovation (people prefer convenience of smartphones). Sony et al. try to outdo each other with their R&D effort and higher margin bodies, which looks impressive on paper, but will never reach the volume of entry-level bodies.

AFAIK this is not likely to change anytime soon - there are still huge markets where the level of affluence is only now permitting a large number of people to buy their Rebels with kit lenses to show off in front of their peers. And by then, Canon will optimize their production line to perfection, making bank, while leaving innovation for their cinema line.

16 minutes ago, Jeronimo said:

I read rumors that Sigma will come out soon with the Art series lenses for Sony.

Maybe it pays to be patient and see what happens before investing in its version of Canon.

https://www.sonyrumors.co/category/sigma-fe-lenses/

I propose a new title for Sony users: THROW AWAY YOUR CANON SIGMA LENSES! (?) 

The announcement is expected soon, but the actual release will be stretched out until the end of the year for some lenses, so don't hold your breath.

The specs are very plausible (DPAF even) because Canon already sells these specs in Canon VIXIA GX10 (which looks like no fanboy on any forum knows about?). The big question is the price.

If this materializes, then Sony RX line is in serious trouble.

2 hours ago, IronFilm said:

GH5s photo ISO test: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/panasonic-gh5s/panasonic-gh5sA7.HTM

GH5s video tests and comparisons: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/panasonic-gh5s/panasonic-gh5sA.HTM#shooting1

 

Fishy quote. The comparison images (probably SOOC jpeg) look like very aggressive NR on GH5S and a lot more detail in the A7SII shots. It is a big step for m43 sensors, but the same technology applied to a larger sensor will always beat it. And when it come to the needed DOF argument, APS-C seems like the sweet spot to me (Sony could do a A6500s, but that would really meddle with their FS line).

3 hours ago, IronFilm said:

A tip to "break out" of whatever tunnel vision you might be in: use the search bar!

Do a few searches and you'll not only find other content directly, but it will start to be suggested to you too. 

I watch a very diverse range of content on YouTube, and is fun seeing how the recommendations change all over the place week by week, due to whatever had been taking my recent fancy lately. 

Well, yeah. But you need an original thought to do that. You don't get these by consuming lots of vlog content. My YT suggestions are quite colorful, but they do change aggressively if I watch one or two videos of a topic that I am not very much interested in. I would imagine a lot of people then fill their boredom with said suggestions going down the rabbit hole.

Wow, you guys are picking on Seinfield and Jackass now ... I can see that you are approaching this issue from the wrong viewpoint - you fret about shitty content (Seinfield was pretty great, Jackass also, if you knew where they came from), but the real issue is IMO different.

Facebook and YouTube have a single objective and that is to keep you on their platform watching videos for as long as they can (more time to display ads). They do this by analyzing the content you watched and predicting which content you'd like to watch next. This leads to a sorts of a tunnel vision that even TV could not lock you in - you are feed similar kind of content indefinitely and you never go "off-topic". So, you watch one or two vlogs and you get bombarded by similar crap for eternity.

If there was some sort of curated content section, you might dive into a entirely new subject, but as it stands now, you are locked into this narrow subject matter that slowly bores you to death, but nothing ever gives you a suggestion to "mix it up a little".

https://www.theonion.com/world-agrees-to-just-take-down-internet-for-a-while-unt-1819579575

It is the continuation of the same old story of content quantity over quality. As video content gets more accessible to creators and consumers, the average quality of consumed media spirals. As our interactions move into digital platforms more and more (social media), we consume the short video content that pollutes our feeds. It happened before (and still does) with shitty TV shows, which can also consume your free time. Take the time to step outside, away from the screens (and ignore your phone). Turn on your screen with intent or just see your movies at the cinema.

It seems reasonable to expect the rolling shutter improvements to trickle down into the A6500 replacement, along with other A9 goodies. Should be an exciting, but pricey, camera.

When the current generation of kids grows up, will they buy 1:1 TVs to watch both orientations or will they simply opt for the vertical model, hahah