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According to Canon rumors the update to the SL2 will have 4K 24p/25p, DPAF and 5 axis stabiiization by use of gyro sensor... “At the time of movie photography, camera shake correction of five axes is possible at the time of wearing of correspondence lens by the use of gyro sensor” https://www.canonrumors.com/the-canon-eos-rebel-sl3-kiss-x10-is-coming-very-soon-images-leak-ahead-of-the-official-announcement/ The wording is odd probably due to the translation but does this mean sensor based stabilization?

Yeah, Zeiss put out a 35mm 1.4 and an 85mm 1.4 for Rollei QBM that have the triangular shaped aperture blades like the Zeiss B Super Speeds. The 35mm 1.4 is supposed to be amazing but it’s a little pricey for me.

Sorry for the OT @Ed_David but I’ve been thinking about the FD-K35 comparison for a couple weeks now and how it correlates with the lenses I already own... I guess it’s better than my obsession a few months ago with the triangular aperture, Rollei Zeiss lenses that were derived from the late 60s Super Speeds, Scorsese used in Taxi Driver.

I figured that but it was worth mentioning just in case. I tend to use a single lens a lot. My favorite focal lengths are between 28-50mm. My go to lens, on one of my short films, is the EF 28mm 1.8, which is its own thing compared to my other EF lenses, so I was hoping the FD 50mm 1.2 L could pop in when I need the extra length. I only paid a little more than the used prices for the EF 50mm 1.4, so I figured it was worth a test at that price. We’ll see. Not lame at all, the second shot really shows off the strength of that 24mm... there is just something about a fast wide angle. Also, as a side note, Sony’s Clear Zoom is really cool. Yeah, optically it is pretty great, especially for the price, but that focus ring... ugh.

That review was with the nFD 50mm 1.2 and not the L version. I assume you based your conclusions on the L version and not the regular nFD 50mm 1.2 as they are two totally different lenses. I probably should have added that I’m not looking to build an FD L set, I’m looking for a 50mm lens that I can intercut with my EF lenses. The 1.4 is close but still isnt a great match. I’ve come to realize that I don’t really use my 85mm 1.8 that often because it is just too long for my style of shooting but my 35mm just isn’t quite long enough sometimes. But yes, of course, we’re the only ones that will even notice the difference. If the story is good enough, we could all get by with kit lenses and some cheap LEDs until we don’t have that light, or the batteries died and we could use that extra half a stop. Even though it doesn’t seem like it, I actually agree with you... I’m trying to lessen my load and if I don’t see a definitive improvement over the 1.4, I will sell it. And then I will decide if I’d rather have the L or sell it to buy the Sigma Art 50mm 1.4, since I don’t have many “modern” lenses.

That’s true, but the FD 50mm 1.2 isn’t THAT much bigger. I already have a 1.4 Zeiss ZF that has that quintessential “vintage” look wide open but sharpens up nicely by f/2, 2.8 so my hope is the 1.2 FD will sharpen up at 1.4 and be razor sharp by 2.8 so I can sell the 1.4 FD and the Zeiss. With that being said, the FD 1.4 is surprisingly sharp wide open.

Will do, I have a nFD 50mm 1.4 that was modified to Nikon F so I will make sure the 1.2 L is worth the extra money. Of course, everything I’ve read and have been told claims that it is. But if it isn’t, I’ll surely sell it and make almost double what I paid for it. It doesn’t really have to be that sharp wide open, 1.2 or faster lenses are really only useful for extremely low light or for that dreamy effect. So the question will be how sharp it is at 1.4 and f/2 compared to the 1.4 version... Hopefully it’s noticeably sharper because the red band makes me feel cool.

Thanks... I think? Sometimes it’s hard to tell if you’re being sarcastic. But I have no shame, so I’ll take it as a compliment... ???

Any updates on the latest, or best build? Can it be downloaded from the ML Experimental Build page? Is the newest version of the MLV App the best, or only, way to process the MLVs?

I’m going to try out ML Raw on the EOS-M just so I can test the 50mm 1.2 out before I send it to get converted. It’s one of the cleanest used lenses I’ve ever bought, so I cannot imagine I won’t like it. I’m hoping it will scratch my itch for a couple other 50mm lenses I either have or am interested in. I just looked a few days ago for the 24mm and the cheapest one I could find was nearly $1200 and it wasn’t in that great of shape. Good copies were listed for $1600... I don’t think I’ve seen a lens raise in price so quickly. I saw another FD-K35 lens comparison on IG last week but I can’t seem to find it now.

I was messing with some old, test shots from my film. This one was shot with the older non-ai version of the Nikkor 28mm f/2. I’m still deciding on a monitor, so this was graded with my non-calibrated MacBook Air... I’m slowly narrowing down my lens sets... finally.

Great test, thanks! I recently learned the same thing about these lenses, which led me to buy an FD 50mm 1.2 L. Of course, the K-35 version is a 55mm and most likely based off the FL/FD SSC version since the 50mm wasn’t even released when the K-35s were released... but I prefer the 50mm focal length over the 55mm, especially since it’s supposed to be closer to a 45mm. I’d love the 24mm, but it seems the prices on that lens have went up almost a grand in the past year or two. To add, I’m on the fence and almost prefer the FD version due to the extra bump in contrast. They both flared fairly dramatically so for the difference in price... the FDs are a great substitute. I look forward to your real world test. Also, the old FL 55mm is a nice little, low con lens that has a really smooth look. It can be had for peanuts. Edmika does a mount conversion to EF through Simmod.

Definitely some of the best P4K footage I’ve seen. Really quite perfect. Good find.

Any word when the E2-C is being released and if there will be ProRes or Raw?

With VLog installed, maybe it will be 10bit. That would be pretty epic, as long as pricing is at, or below, $1000.

Why does every new camera that is released inevitably have a “... vs Alexa” video, anyway? I mean, if any of these cameras were as good as an Alexa, then Roger Deakins would surely buy them and use them in their Hollywood films. Weirdly enough, I have heard, somewhere, that a lot of Hollywood DPs own Fuji cameras as their personal camera... But seriously, it’s not the end of the world if your sub-2000 dollar camera isn’t as good as an Alexa. Most people believe the best Red doesn’t look as good as an Alexa, so it’s highly unlikely that a $1300 camera will either. Stop watching and reposting these stupid comparisons and maybe they’ll stop making them. With that being said, the OG Pocket was often referred to as a Baby Alexa, maybe the P4K will earn that moniker as well one day, but until then, what’s the harm in mentioning a flaw or two? And a strength or two? Cell phones are the great equalizer and how most people will watch most of your videos, so if a camera’s image looks noticeably better on a cell phone screen, I find, there’s usually something to it. YMMV.

Zach, are we to assume you are referring to a film in the distant future? Didn’t you say you don’t have a car right now? I would argue that it may be smarter to get a car first and then a $33,000 cinema camera. In the meantime, if you’re looking for a FF camera, did you hear that The Possession of Hannah Grace was shot on an a7sii? If you don’t need 4K or IBIS, the original a7s can be had for about $700... so that’s an option as well.

Gotcha! I had the 24-70mm f/4 and had the same experience with it... just too slow when you need a few more stops of light. But then when I go back and look at some of my footage, some of my favorite shots were with that lens... but I also suffer from sentimentality. I was mostly looking at the Sigma because it is crazy sharp and for image stabilization... but so is my Canon 35mm f/2 and my feet work pretty good in place of a zoom... so IDK... lol. Glad to hear it, there aren’t many of us left. Lol. I’ve owned about 3 4K cameras, all with IBIS, since I bought my 5D3 and the 5D3 is the only camera I still own... I just recently realized this myself... apparently there’s an option in the resolution center that you have to click. So if the buyer is a no pay, or a scam artist, then you have to open a case to get your fee returned. Good luck!

Interesting... I still believe the RF Mount was a colossal mistake on Canon’s part. And the cost of these lenses are just astronomical. Glad to hear you like the FD version the best because I just received a mint copy in the mail that I paid $350 for. I’m going to load ML on my EOS-M to test it and if it’s better than the modded FD 50mm 1.4 I already own, I’m going to send it out to Simmod for a mount conversion and have the aperture declicked. How does the FD 1.2 compare to a modern 50mm prime like the Sigma Art? Is the Art lens a lot sharper, or does the FD hold its own?

Thanks a lot, I appreciate that! The funny thing is, this is probably the least amount of work I’ve put into a grade in a while... no LUTs or CST... just saturation and curves.

The Canon 35mm f/2 was brought up in another thread, coincidentally I used that lens yesterday, so I figured I’d post a couple grabs...

Haha, only on eBay... it probably wasn’t a scam... it’s just that there are a large majority of people on eBay that are ridiculous human beings. Why are you selling the 24-105mm? I was thinking of buying the Sigma version. Are you ditching your 5D3 and ML Raw as well?

I was looking at the 70-200mm f/4 earlier today but I’m afraid the white lens will draw too much attention to me while I try to steal scenes in public places. Do people stare at you when you shoot with this lens? On another note, I actually used my aperture ring for the first time today... haha... I’ve always been a wide open and fader nd kind of shooter. Am pretty surprised how shallow f/5.6 is on FF and how much easier it is to focus. #lazyshooter

Wait... Red? Why?

You’d think so, but if Atomos is licensing ProRes Raw from Apple, they probably can’t afford to give exclusivity rights to anyone... But I still think that Atomos may offer Canon RawLite for the EOS-R. Historically, Canon and Nikon react to each other, so this would follow suit. We’ve also heard that Canon is supposedly going to take video more seriously going forward. And finally, if Canon offers external Raw to the EOS-R, they now have a B Camera for the C200, or they have a gateway camera that may cause EOS-R owners to buy a C200 for internal Raw. But these are just rumors, so who knows...