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Honestly, that piece looks like a scene out of a movie. Simply gorgeous. Who needs an Alexa when you are getting those results. I wish I could just buy everything you used in that piece and get the same results... But I know it isn't that simple. I was actually going to ask you what kind of stabilization you used... I thought you may have used a handheld rig or a steady cam. I think the monopod was a great choice, it added the fluidity to the piece that was required due to the location and the fluidity of her playing. What monopod do you use? I have a Sirui and although it was good when I first bought it, it is breaking down a little sooner than I had hoped it would, I am thinking of replacing it with a Benro and Manfrotto head. Good to hear about the 35mm, I did get a chance to test it with my 50D and I love the IQ but I only used it with manual focus, so I was worried how it would handle DPAF.

I finally had the chance to upload the C-Log onto a camera. Unfortunately it's the eos-m10... Probably the lowest level Canon camera, but it's the only one I have access to at the moment. I think the C-Log definitely helps with the shadows and I am really enjoying it so far. I've also been testing some of your other profiles. I love the look you have shown with Chrome, but with my footage it is SUPER saturated, whereas your samples look muted... Do you think it may be camera specific? Also Cinema 4 is very saturated as well, when I cut the saturation in half, it more closely resembles your description. But with the saturation knocked down a touch or two, it kinda resembles the Wide DR mode in Canon's C cameras. Nice job, it's really cool to breathe some life into these cheap old tech cameras.

Wow... That's a pretty amazing piece of work you accomplished there. I barely even thought about gear while watching it. Perfect time of day to shoot it. Piano on the beach was a brilliant idea, though I can only imagine the logistics involved getting a Steinway baby grand on to the sand (crane or forklift?) Damn really nice piece. You did have a lot to work with... Beautiful and talented woman, perfect sunlight (great idea to use the setting sun as backlight) but still the concept was so simple and masterfully executed And the C100 really is an amazing camera. The way it handled the sun infused highlights in her hair and the reflection of the sun and her hands on the piano above the keys. So soft yet sharp with great DR. One of my favorite pieces I've seen posted on here. How does the Tokina handle the DPAF? Also, do you have the Canon 35mm f2 with IS? I recently bought a refurbished one on sale in preparation for DPAF. I'm hoping it works well with it, but I haven't found many samples online and the sale was ending that day, so I took a gamble.

Thanks, that's good to know. I have been trying to keep my ISO as close to 500 as possible in C-Log, so hopefully there would be no issue What lenses do you guys use with your C100s? I assume mostly Canon lenses to utilize the DPAF? I remember from my time with t2i, many moons ago, that you really could nail different looks by using different vintage lenses. You'd still have that Canon color but the color tone may be slightly different depending on the brand... for example Nikkor aI-s lenses were slightly cooler than Takumars. Does the C100 handle vintage lenses in the same way?

Idk, I'd rather not have to learn Mandarin to buy a camera at it's realistic value. If they wanted to include 720 or 1080 raw video for 600 bucks, then I might be interested, but for a low level 4K camera whose biggest distribution pipeline is eBay, I think the $300 announcement price is reasonable... And even that is tipping the scales toward unlikely.

Looks great. Did you notice, in your video, that only women appear to do any work in Nepal... Well women and small children. Btw, what camera did you use?

I don't have the 80D yet. I was waiting to see how the M5 matches up to it. Since it was sharing a sensor, I thought they were going to include the higher bitrate video as well... They didn't. Plus I wanted to do some tests on a cheaper camera to see if I can match Canon LOG and Reid-LOG. So, I just picked up a dirt cheap M10 to run some tests with. Plus plus I will probably wait for a Black Friday sale and try to get the 80D a little cheaper. But your points about close ups are very valid. This is why Canon DSLRs became so popular in the first place... Shallow depth hides the inherent budgetary and time restraints common in no budget filmmaking. Good point about M4/3rds as well. The problem I had found with every other brand of camera I have owned, other than Canon, is that the colors require more tweaking to look "good," and I am not that great with color. I think Panasonic is getting closer with their newer lines, but it still takes some time in post to acquire that "organic, cinematic" look and texture that comes naturally out of the box with Canon's color science. A couple months ago when I bought the XC10 and shot some footage with the 1080p C-Log, I realized in the first moment I looked at that first clip I don't even need 4K or actually want it in a lot of situations. I think 4K takes a naturally gifted colorist (which I'm not) or a good dose of FilmConvert to get footage to look "organically cinematic." And this is my fear... Even with the 100mbps from the 80D. So let me ask... how close is the 1080p C-Log from the XC10 compare to the C-Log from the C100? Are they indistinguishable? Can you intercut the two, without any noticeable difference, as long as the correction/grade matched?

Cannot believe they priced it so high. Hopefully, their eBay pricing will reflect the aforementioned $300 price.

Tried eoshd-log on the eos-m10. I used a canon log LUT from Color Finale with no other adjustments...

Hah, does the C100mkii have a 1" sensor, ef-m mount, 5-Axis IS...

Yup, I'd go in debt for that camera. They won't do it though. I mean, I have to assume that we aren't the first people to think about this, someone at Canon must've mentioned it... Hell... Renaissance mentioned something similar right when the XC10 was released. I would think a quarter of micro budget/indie filmmakers would own this combo.

Very true. The only issue I have with the camera is for narratives, I really need a complimentary camera for that shallow depth... I just cannot afford a C100 for the spec shorts I work on. If only Canon would release a C1... A one inch sensor camera with interchangeable lenses. The BMPCC has proven you can obtain a shallow depth with a small sensor and fast lens combo. 1080 (and maybe the 220mbps 4K) and Canon LOG with the eos-m mount for around 2 grand and I'd hand over my money.

In 30p. According to DPReview, no 24p until 1080p.

I really like the color. For $300, it may be worth a try. Will wait to see some other lenses used with it. Would also like to see 24p in their 2K mode at a better bitrate than the 15Mbps 24p in their 1080p.

How much ISO do you need? I've mainly used the camera in daylight, but I have brought it up to 3200 and there was some noise, it was definitely usable though. At 1600 it was clean. I may have a chance to run some lowlight test within the next week or so.

That sucks, it looks like a demon, that frequented nightclubs in the late 90s, possessed his shirt.

First I need to say that Canon LOG is not mushy crap, I know you didn't say that but it definitely needs to be clarified. The cameras that offer official Canon LOG are their higher end cameras that downsample the 1080p from 4K or shoot in 4K. The Canon LOG 1080p from my XC10 is as sharp and detailed as the 4K from the Panasonic G7, GX85, etc... The 4K from my XC10 is a professional codec and grading the Canon LOG files is a joy. It blows away any consumer 4K anywhere near or below that price. So, the question, for me, becomes... How well does Andrew's C-Log match up and can it be intercut with actual Canon LOG? Personally, I am at a point that I would rather have the cinematic colors and gorgeous skin tones of Canon 1080p than the sterile video look of most other camera brands. If I were you, I would maybe consider a C100. Selling your BMMCC and GH4 would cover the costs. Then use one of the DSLRs you already have access to, with Andrew's C-Loh as a B-Cam. Or get a 5Diii, use ML Raw for those times you want 14 bit Raw and for simpler work, use Andrew's C-Log. I'd be interested to see how well the ML bitrate hacks combined with Andrew's C-Log works. I am so over other camera brands that I actually ordered a dirt cheap eos-m10 to test Andrew's C-Log and see how well I can match it with Canon LOG from my XC10. If it's fairly simple to get them close, my next camera will be an 80D or M5. Btw, I also have a BMMCC, and for me, it is one of the most unenjoyable shooting experiences I have ever had. But I do admit, the footage is beautiful.

Dang, Canon should offer you buy one get one free.

I have not tested a microphone that requires plug in power, but from my understanding, the XC10 does not supply it... Which I find very strange.

I'm definitely keeping the XC10. I may keep the GX85. But I may get an 80D as a 2nd cam to the XC10, so I can do close ups. If I do that, I'll probably sell the GX85. I have to do some tests with Andrew's C-Log and see if I can match Canon DSLR with Canon LOG.

Did you ever sell your 80D?

Great cut at the end of that video! Just when I realize her shirt is-- Cut to Kidzrevil graphic.

I have, it was one of the reasons I bought it. S16 lenses will cover down to about 20mm. 1" TV lenses will just cover down to about 12.5mm. On a lens that wide, if you move to quickly, the image will fall off the edge... You can actually see the vignette float into frame. This is where the e-stabilizer helps to give you a little more crop. I'm still unsure if I'm going to keep the camera, but if I do, it will be so I can use vintage c-mount/TV lenses with the IBIS. They really help to soften that digital video look that is somewhat inherent in the Panasonic image.

I don't know that I agree with this. Canon colors offer the most cinematic images straight out of camera. Are there better options... Sure there always are better options, no matter the camera.

200mbps 1080p... I think I like the camera even better now.