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Why transcode to ProRes ? I tested and is only 10% smaller (using Compressor on Mac). That was with 4k60p. Do you get other results ??

Did a revisit on my grading of the clips easier in this tread. I did not clip the highlights and was wondering if the colour information still was in the clips. By not using any LUT only grading, but now used the vector based grading in Colour Finale (the last clips), I was able to recover more then in versjon 1. I not sure at all if we get any more dynamic range using the clog picture style vs the standard - too me it looks the same. So when using clog or similar may only help if you want to adjust to another camera - as it may be easier to get the same look, or if one want a special look it may pay off to use the logs. (as you reduce the sharpening and saturation.)

1dx2 have an exellent picture for sure, better the the A7x in 4K. However, these log profiles may not be call logs- I suspect the picture is compressed and burnt in before the picture style is applied, so no extended dynamic range is achieved. We most probably could use neutral picture style and use a lut and some grading and have the same result. Its the film emulation lut + some grain that gives the look. I suspect we all are cheated.............

At least according to this Canon rep.

Did you test against a standard Canon picture profiles? As shown here, the highlights are burned and the value of the c-log is questionable. Still to see if we can squeeze more dynamic range out of it. Actually, you may lose color information. i.e. if you want vivid colors.

That's what I have. However, the A7R2 is the favour, 2 video modes, and exellent stills. Canon camras are somewhat more snappy to shoot with (5d4 and 1dx2), the A7r2 take time to write the stills to the card, like the 5Dsr. So my two favourite camras are the A7r2 and the 1dx2. As the Canon lacks Evf, its less flexible for run and gun, but have the Dpaf which is better then A7r2 AF. The Af In A7r2 is fully useable in many situations. You can support the evf to the eye, have excellent stabilisation, 1/5 of the filezise of 4K Canon. So the ultimate combination of still and video camera has still to be made. For travels, you can pick lenses that give you less weight then a Canon. What's nice with Canon 1dx2, I can now shoot action sport and wildlife with one body, both excellent video quality and stills.

Hm, I bought the c-log the first day and installed it on the 1dx2. So far I am not convinced that c-log give higher dynamic range. Is there a difference between compressing high lights and shadows into an S-curve or the real canon- log? (Do we lose color information using s-curve?) Has it been proved to be similar?? or is this just a fake? Please prove me wrong! It could be useful to match different cameras going via c-log...? However, if Canons color tech is so fantastic, why not use another PS and get the same results without much grading. Most of the post in this thread only shows use on rather low contrast scenes. Now, Andrew has to prove that this make sense.

Sorry to say, but this does not look good in my taste. Horrible brown tint and probably the white balance is way out. Its not sharp either. Its not good publicity for c-log - Apologize for the negative feedback, but there is a lot of competent people on this forum to learn from.

Actually with low shutter speeds, capturing mpegs from video on 1dx2 can give to much motion blur. I use ND filter it sometimes, but only expensive Tiffen filters do not colour in my experience. its also a problem if you take still and video with the same camera, so I also ignore it quite some times.

sorry, that was what I meant - your right -:)

Ok example of clog - but you need to find a high dynamic scene that has content in the very low end of the histogram and the very top end using e.g. Canons standard profile. By using clog, the shadows will be raised. Then you need to expose correctly and revert it back to something similar as the standard profile (punch) with the given luts (or manually grade), but with higher dynamic range. Unless you not able to get back to what is told to be "canon color science" (or correct colors) nothing is proven. Anybody can create a log profile and use whatever lut and show something- We can do this with any Sony camera as well. I will try this with my 1dx2, but challenge other to do the same.... over the next days. In my previous example, earlier in the thread, I did not expose correctly and even if it was not clipping, I was not able to get correct colors for the light part of the picture. What I see in the examples over, none of them seems to have a big dynamic range, and as such a log profile is not needed. You can just grade to your taste. .

Thanks for those. This proves it for face detection, but if you follow a subject with a focus point, like sports, what your experience then? (For Sony) - it did not take me long to figure out that 1dx2 is much better. (

That's not correct. In FCPX you have to turn proxies on, either when you import or generate them later. Actually FCPX renderes more effectively then PP on Mac.

Does phase AF really work in video mode on A7r2, I don't think so. I find the AF similar in for video on A7S2 and A7r2, but not for stills, only video.

Thanks for the comments. Could be wrong regarding the white balance, yes. I used AWB, so the camera decided. However the RGB looks balanced, but the vector scope is not. I checked the histogram before shooting and there was no clipping as far as I could see, but maybe i should have lowered the exposure even more. By the way, this is then opposite to slog for Sony as there one shall shoot 1-2 stops lighter ?

I am 99% sure you will be able to download them via the EOS utility to the Canon 80. However its still up for jugdement if they help getting a better frame. If you look at my video, I get better results with standard picture style. I am not able to get the green color back of the grass using clog and out & grading, but with standard I am. But I may have done something wrong, so you should wait for other testers.

Test of clog : Tried to find som contrasty scenes - when I was out with our dog this morning.

Did you take a RAW image of the scene and check if you could grade back to similar result, i.e. could you get e vivid or punch look? Is it enough color info in the files?

Nice, upgraded to 1dx2 (from 1dx) a couple of days ago. I have also Sony A7r2 and A7s2. Testing now, and are impressed with the colors of 1dx2, will for sure buy the clog tomorrow. I hated the soft image of 5D3 (when shooting distant footage) and therefore went to Sony.

How come that the rest of us get nice colours with Sony ? Else you can try some of the other picture profiles first and see how that works for you.

I think most of us want Canon to be more competitive for video. That said, Canon DSLRs needs rigging to be usable for video as there is no EVF which makes it difficult to shoot handheld - way more shaking then Sony with 5-axes stabilisation. What i like with Canon is snappy speed for still shooting e.g. sports / events. Where is my need for a Canon video DSLR? shooting sport events from quite a distance e.g. 70-200 lense or 400mm. Then the PDAF could be excellent - Downside is the big file sizes. I hear people complain about Sony and video AF, I find it rather good and useable using FE lenses- I don't have any Sony 400mm lense and have to use Metabones - that solution has its limitations. Thats where Canon could be more useful for me. Pretty much anything else is covered by Sonys.

I have used Vegas and Premiere before - but there is no doubt that FCPX editing is fastest (for me). I am also very experienced in DAW - eg- Reaper and latest years Logic, so in that respect use to track based software. I can run 3 4k streams - it start to struggle on the 4th. top spec iMac, but only 500MB/s SSD, not that one with over 1000MB/s (very latest model) Else agree about the eco system - we're not alone.

I have both cameras, and agree

Why not use FCPX, there no problem editing full resolution 4K xavc-s files. It also faster to use for editing as well (after some learning). Renders faster according to many tests. if your on Mac, it's a no brainer. No problem here with 4K A7s2 files....and FCPX

Amazing story, any comment from Mr. Reid ?