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On 6/28/2025 at 12:44 AM, Ty Harper said:
[...] there is no reason to go beyond a used R50V at the moment.
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But also, we're forgetting the elephant in the room - which is AI and the way it might change what it means for younger generations to capture/tell visual stories.
I agree 100%, it is technically perfect for a beginner to grow into the system, both in photo and video terms.
Now about the AI stuff I don't know. I have my reservations for it as a tool for human expression. As of this moment there is a stark difference between going out into the world and shooting with your own hands and eyes and soul vs. prompting lines into a machine.
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6 hours ago, Ty Harper said:
really makes it hard to argue that anything ML related is the prudent way to go in 2025, imo.
Different technologies.
Just wait a few years for Gen Alpha to discover old used DSLRs are almost indestructible and take even better pictures than newer more expensive MILCs and phones that break more frequently.
The R50 in its different itinrations is cute, but it will never outlast a 5D.
Does if offer better video quality? Yes, but only if you know what you're doing from the get go and that knowledge is becoming scarcer every day.
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15 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:
I think for £1299 it's a bit of a bargain.
How much is the X100V and X100VI over there?
This new model is clearly geared towards a different market in large part bc it does not have the killer hybrid OVF/EVF of the more luxurious X100 line.
I have my reservations if there really is a market for a X100 sans the hybrid viewfinder. For me, it's the #1 reason I still use my now ancient OG X100.
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8 hours ago, QuickHitRecord said:
I bit the bullet and ordered a used R5C. $2400 a 22K shutter count, and a cage included.
I don't expect this to become my primary camera over the C70 but will be nice to have when photos are also needed.
That's a solid and bulky choice. It won't overheat any time soon!
Now it's by far the most complicated Canon camera I have ever used. For me, the menus were too much. You really need to know what you're doing or you'll get lost with all the menu/button combinatios.
Have fun!
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On 6/12/2025 at 6:18 PM, QuickHitRecord said:
Other than the pricey R5C, of course. Also, I don't think my EOS-R has ever overheated. But it has a significant crop. Maybe the 1D-C, 1D-X ii or iii?
You'll have to pony up for the more expensive models to avoid over-heating.
I've tested my R8 in all its video modes and 4K will make the camera over-heat after long sessions or make the heat bars reach very close to it overheating and shutting off (If I'm shooting long-interviews with the R8 I just shoot FHD which is very good).
I'm sure the R7 and R6M2 models have much better heat dissipation design. The R8 has none.
As for the bulkier 1D models I'm sure they are almost bullet proof, but they have 30m recording limits.
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10 hours ago, John Matthews said:
I'll credit @Andrew Reid for the look with EOSHD Pro Color. I only tweaked it a little.
From what I've understood about Panasonic in that era, even their pro video division was surprised by the hacked GH2. I remember many videographers were saying the 1080p out of the GH2 was WAY too sharp and digital. Some of the hacks even offered less sharp versions. After with 4k, it didn't seem we had to worry so much about detail anymore. IBIS meant we could now actually see the detail because with no IBIS, it turned to mush.
Nice.
Out of curiosity, could you unsharpen the included profiles in the GH2 in video mode?
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On 5/24/2025 at 11:26 AM, John Matthews said:
People might laugh at me, but I don't care. I've been doing some walk-around filming with my G7 and 9mm Leica versus my S5ii and the kit lens. I'm absolutely dumbfounded how little the differences are.
That looks really good. The G7 has much nicer and warmer colors.
For a doc-style scenario it could be a great option. Other than the obvious jello effect of the tortutre test it could stand up to any modern day camera.
As we've said in this forum quite a lot: from about 2010-2018 Panny was a true disrupter in the videocamera world.
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On 5/24/2025 at 10:10 PM, eatstoomuchjam said:
Maybe for you, it would be, but that doesn't mean that it is for others. Many people buy specific cameras with a specific intent in mind. Buying a camera for status is silly since almost nobody else on sense has any real sense of what makes it a nice camera, other than being from a few brands. But "they shoot with a Red" is just as equally impressive to them with a Komodo as it would be with a V-Raptor [X].
Photography has always been an expensive hobby. Since the SLR days there has been a clear mark of status associated with the best gear from the best brands. Wanting the best implied paying a lot more.
Camera companies have clearly segmented and re-segmented the "intent" you mentioned. Want the best hybrid video-cam with RF lens? Better pony-up for the R1, R3, R5M2 or R5c. Want the speed demon? There's your R7. Want a slow full-framer but with some limitations for video, as in no IBIS? Here you go with the R8. A considerably better camera and videocamera but no as expensive as the R1 and upper tier? Ahh, we've got your R6M2.
Every company out there does the exact same thing.
So even if you are NOT looking for status, it's implied by your choice of gear.
The only way to eschew the game is by going full retro. And I mean really retro for gear NOBODY wants to use and can't even be used with modern computers easily.
I'm looking at you MiniDV, Hi8, and such.
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10 hours ago, Davide DB said:
The Nauticam Sony Alpha 1 housing cost $4540 USD in July 2022, and its price remained pretty much unchanged until the Trump mess, when the price jumped to $5000 USD.
Woa, there goes my interest in subaquatic photography.
A coupe of years ago I checked the Nauticam prices for my 7DM2. The gear costed more than my camera and lens!
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9 hours ago, Tim Sewell said:
I'd love to see a digital Canonet!
Oh you better believe it's coming, Canon would be foolhardy to leave a ton of cash on the table.
As always, they'll let other manufacturers take the risk with their products and test if their is a market for it.
Only then will they'll release a camera and gobble up the lion's share of it.
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Well, the market is basically saturated.
Since dealers are selling less units, each unit has to be sold a higher cost. That's it.
Those insane prices clearly show this trend in a mature luxury market ( in the age of the cell phone a dedicated camera is a luxury).
No surprise all camera manufacturers have gone the Fuji way: full "new-retro" models for Pentax, Fujifilm and Nikon. Only Canon and Sony have delayed the retro trend.
So the only way for the camera market is backwards, not through, to quote a famous movie.
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Original Fuji X100 and Nikon D200
For video it's almost useless, but for photos it shines with all its quirks and "personality traits".
Nikon D200 is an absolute beast that has a ton o personality thanks to the CCD sensor. A truly great photo camera. No video function there.
My modern cameras have zero personality (7DM2, R8, Z50) but work at such a high level that I just can't get rid of them even I want to. 7DM2 for quick focus and one of the best OVFs ever (soft video though); R8 is very very good for video, Z50 is not as good for video but I really like its compactness.
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I have no idea why Panny chose to go the expensive route for their cameras.
Up until the GH5 their products offered the biggest bang for the buck (GH5s was catastrophic bc it started this whole upward pricing trend).
Now? Not so much. GH6-7 were considerable costs upfront for anyone, let alone indie filmmakers.
Their FF lineup has been all over the place regarding prices. Why would anyone buy this new camera when the S5II and its different variations was released just some months ago?
It makes NO sense whatsoever and makes us long for the GH-1-2-3-4 pricing and innovativeness.
Every single one of the original GH cameras had some sort of innovation that differentiated it from the rest of the Canon-Nikon-Sony parade. All of that was lost with the move to FF.
A true fall from grace.
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11 hours ago, Tim Sewell said:
Er no, I'm very much talking about the relatively inexpensive 18-105 f4 - worked on the zoom rocker on both my FS7 and FX30. Excellent little lens for the price.
Thanks, I see now.
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10 hours ago, Al Dolega said:
Yes the 18-105 works on the FS5, that was the kit lens for the FS5 as I remember.
No, he's talking about the 18-110mm F4 Power Zoom which is a very expensive item. Much more so than the "normal" F4 zoom of similar focal length. About 5x more expensive.
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14 hours ago, Tim Sewell said:
The Sony 18-105mm f4 PZ works on the FS& via the camera's zoom rocker, so I guess it will on the FS5 as well.
That's a US$3,500 lens on top of a camera that requires a bunch of add-ons to use properly. So even if it's an older model that's a US$4,500 expenditure at the very least.
That's way way over my budget.
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16 hours ago, newfoundmass said:
This is actually a pretty decent video...
The X1500 and X2000 are the same camera, just without the top handle. He compares/matches it with the S5ii X. It's pretty close. Just the low light isn't good.
I gather 4K 4:2:2 10bit is something rare at this price point in the videocamera world.
Impressive for such a tiny machine with an extremely long lens.
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17 hours ago, MrSMW said:
I have had this in and out of my shopping basket many MANY times but in the end have stuck with MILC.
But it would make a lot of sense for static duty.
The deciding factor for me was mixing in and editing the footage alongside full-frame MILC and I'm a bit OCD in not liking that. Even using my drone footage triggers me but no realistic option on that one!
And it should, a full-frame MILC sensor is 20x as large LOL
For a 1/2.5-type (inch) sensor it seems really nice, specially the 4K 200mbps codec
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4 hours ago, newfoundmass said:
Keep us posted and share your thoughts on what you do get!
I will.
Yes, the low-light issue can't be denied. I already have a bunch of lighting, so I'm not too worried about that. These new 1 inchers do seem quite nice and just as in photography the ISO and noise algorithms have advanced in the videocamera world.
There are workarounds for bokeh, as you say. When I used those old Mini DV cams we managed to produce some nice images by playing with length of the zoom and judicious placement of our subjects.
I 100% agree with you that the video cam world has advanced at a snail's pace compared to the photo world. Advancements have been few and far between.
Curiously enough, Panasonic really did innovate with the DVX200 but the competition from the DSLR world and the new MILC challengers proved too fierce. Heck, even their own internal competition was brutal with the GF7, GX80, G9, FZ-2000, GH5, GH5 and GH5s coming around near the launch of the DVX200.
Those guys in Japan were on a roll back then. As Andrew has said, their photo demise in near. IMO their fatal flaw was launching their own L mount and trying to compete with much more well established players but with 1/100 of their marketing resources and distribution channels.
They should have stuck with videocameras and, from time to time, integrate their innovations to the M43 line.
Bleh. Right now they much interested selling batteries to Tesla and Toyota.
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21 hours ago, newfoundmass said:
I'd steer clear of any camera that has smaller than a 1" sensor, less because of depth of field and more because of low light. Those smaller sensors, even in newer cameras, just completely fall apart. They don't really even look that great in well lit situations.
If you don't mind used, the Panasonic DVX200 is a great option. It's basically a GH5, complete with M43 sensor, in a camcorder body. When my friend used my GH5 as a b-cam to it, the footage was nearly identical. It looks like it goes for about $1600 used.
Sony PXW-Z90 is a very nice camcorder with a 1" sensor. I built an entire streaming business off these kind of Sony camcorders. Goes for under $2100 used on MPB.
For more advanced cameras:
The Panasonic EVA1 also might be an option. Used options in Excellent condition on MPB go for about $2300. That has a Super 35 sensor and allows you to use EF and cine lenses.
On the Sony side, the Sony PXW-FS5 II is under $1500 in like new condition on MPB.
The Canon Cinema EOS C300 II is under $2200 in Excellent condition on MPB.
I've debated myself the aesthetic qualities of small sensor videocameras. At this juncture I'm willing ti sacrifice overall "bokeh potential" if the videocamera is more practical than a DSLR/MILC for video.
Yep, coincidentally I'm finding that DVX200 one of the better options out there. It definitely ticks all the boxes.
As for the Sony, I didn't even know to existed. I'll def have a look at it. Not really a Sony fan in the photo world, but they have produced very good vide cams for decades, so that seems like a really good option.
All those cinema camera sound great, but I'm looking for extreme practicality with an integrated zoom lens. So I'm gonna pass on those big censored fiends.
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22 hours ago, eatstoomuchjam said:
Does it have to be a camcorder with integrated lens?
If not, you might consider a Sony FS5 II, Sony FS7 II, or Canon C300 II. With a little more budget, it might look like a C70.
I'm not sure of the price of entry-level power zooms for any of them, though. I'm also not sure if the Canons support LANC, but I think it's really likely that the Sonys do.
Yes please (Canon does support LANC), I would much rather do with an integrated zoom lens.
I'm tired of waffling around with DSLRs/MICSs and their photo-centric lenses.
As you stated, all those big sensor cine cameras produce beautiful images, but non have integrated zooms. Buying one of their integrated zooms would far exceed my budget,
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2 minutes ago, EduPortas said:
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Yes, even though electronic music has been around for decades ppl still play guitars, flutes and bang drums like they have done for 50,000 years or more.
Think of all the mediocre electronica outfits out there vs the ones who get it right. Objectively, even a mediocre guitarists is better than a mediocre electronica artist just bc the way he expresses his artistic intention.
The exact same thing will happen with AI.
Of all the trillions of Terabytes done with this tech only 0.1% will rise to the surface and have any merit.