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48 minutes ago, ntblowz said:

They can, by offering Red the license fee for compressed raw or some sort of cross license deal that Canon and Red have done, or wait til Apple win the suit.

Yeah, we'll see, I'm gonna guess that Red isn't really willing to give a license to anyone else at this point though, least of all to Sony 

3 hours ago, nathlas said:

the biggest issue is the non internal RAW recording capability.

That's a huge disadvantage.

2 hours ago, thephoenix said:

16 bit raw, we're talking huge amount of disk space needed here

Yes, IMHO uncompressed raw formats are more of a pain in the ass for productions that this camera is primarily aimed at, so I don't think it's that much of an issue. For those jobs that need it, you can get it externally. If there was a possibility to do some form of compressed raw, the situation would be entirely different of course..

Downloaded the mxf file from Philip Blooms blog and the footage looks great SOOC and you can get a really nice look with just a basic correction(wb, contrast etc). It's pretty close to the Venice, which is being used for more and more projects these days. Can't wait to see the 16bit raw out of this thing.

Anyone seen any info if it can shoot ProRes with the xdca back like the fs7?

Their CEO posted somewhere that it's a new sensor made by Red like all their previous ones.

9 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said:

Oddly enough, the SLR magic PL mount lenses are ones that do fit all the EF adapters so you can use their anamorphics with their supplied adapter.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1343712-REG/slr_magic_1_33x_anamorphot_cine_lens_set.html

Obviously at the end of the spectrum that this camera is, most users will be using anamorphic adapters so there are no shortage of EF or adapted to EF mount lenses like Nikon F,Leica R etc that can be used as taking lenses for those so there are plenty of options.

Okay, thanks a lot for the info!

14 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said:

Yeah there is a maximum flange distance requirement on the PL lens that can exclude them. The adapters usually list a set of lenses that they have tested so its then a bit of an anecdotal search for compatibility of ones they haven't.

Okay that's what I thought and to my understanding this can really limit your lens choice. This made me also think about the anamorphic mode on the camera. How many anamorphic lenses are EF mount or can be adapted to EF mount?

8 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

Aside from F mount, you can adapt PL, M42, Contax C/Y, Canon FD, Minolta MD, Leica R amongst others.

The only ones that you are excluded from is Leica M, Sony E, L mount and of course m43.

 

I was under the impression that there's not that many PL lenses that can be adapted to EF mount for some reason? I remember people talking about this when the Red Raven came out, not sure if it's true though.

Wow, this is really interesting!

Good idea for a thread @kye

Quick one with a non-calibrated laptop monitor so not sure how it looks ? WB adjustment, some LUT and messing around in Lumetri CC. Might try again once I get to my work computer and a decent monitor!

Oh my, the launch video is interesting to say the least ?

Seems that they are also making a name for themselves over on their facebook page by trying to publicly shame someone who bought a defective monitor from them and tried to return it ?‍♂️

Is there really someone who's willing to spend $10-25k on this company..

22 minutes ago, IronFilm said:

Still lighter than the combo with the F55!

True ? 

Still remember the fs700 and axs-r5? Shot once with that setup and I can tell you it wasn't pleasant ?

1 hour ago, androidlad said:

I've answered that many times before, is the search function buried deep in your arse?

Care to elaborate on that? I have not seen you talk about the source for that anywhere?

Also, why not just answer the question? Or better yet, just tell the source on the same post with those spec sheets and rumors you post. Not trying to hate on you, I'm just genuinely interested what the deal is with all this stuff.

6 minutes ago, IronFilm said:

Maybe the a7Smk3 will record to a AXS-R7 !  

Yeah, talk about ergonomics! Better start hitting the gym now so you're ready to haul that setup around with you ?

@androidlad where you getting this info? I also asked you TWICE for a source on your "leak" about a 4k 12-bit/2k raw canon rf mount camera on the eos r thread and you don't seem to have an answer. Seems like you're pulling this stuff out of your arse mate..

6 hours ago, androidlad said:

Latest leak:

10.1MP GS High-Sensitivity Full Frame Sensor (without IBIS)
4K/12Bit/30fps, 4K/10Bit/60fps & 2K/10Bit/180fps XF-RAW (AVC-Bayer)
Dual Pixel CMOS AF
DIGIC8+ DV Processor
ISO100-160000 (50-500000)
20fps 14Bit AE/AF Electronic Shutter Continuous Shooting

RF Mount !

Seems like a Cinema EOS/Mirrorless hybrid.

So no source for this? Searched, but couldn't find any rumors with anything even close to this.. not surprised though ??

32 minutes ago, androidlad said:

Latest leak:

10.1MP GS High-Sensitivity Full Frame Sensor (without IBIS)
4K/12Bit/30fps, 4K/10Bit/60fps & 2K/10Bit/180fps XF-RAW (AVC-Bayer)
Dual Pixel CMOS AF
DIGIC8+ DV Processor
ISO100-160000 (50-500000)
20fps 14Bit AE/AF Electronic Shutter Continuous Shooting

RF Mount !

Seems like a Cinema EOS/Mirrorless hybrid.

Well that would be insane. Source?

17 minutes ago, androidlad said:

Canon has a FF 10.1MP Global Shutter sensor in the works, could be used in a video-centric mirrorless model.

Knowing Canon something like that is way more likely to be used in a C-series camera.

42 minutes ago, Yurolov said:

I have no faith that the higher-end model will give us what we want.

Not holding my breath either, but since Nikon is now pushing FF mirrorless quite aggressively, plus Panasonic entering the game, one can always hope ?

Shame about the rolling shutter and crop. Fingers crossed they get it right with the higher end R-model(s), would be nice to have a Canon camera again.

Thanks for the write-up!

The rumours don't seem that likely. If there is external raw I sure hope they just put an sdi port on it and call it a day. The axs modules are huge bricks and if that's the only way to get the raw out the rig would be quite a hassle compared to an atomos recorder.

Peter McKinnon review, I think he may have forgotten to add the ¨Sponsored Content¨ tag on there.. ?

1 hour ago, Trek of Joy said:

You can order one, but the cool dude with the Ferrari and sunglasses won't tell you the price.

The comment threads on Newsshooter are awesome, the exact opposite of what someone trying to break into a highly competitive market should be doing. He should sell the Ferrari and hire someone to handle the PR/marketing.

Chris

Agreed, apparently someone asked for the price and the answer was that if you need to ask the price you're not a pro ? whole thing looks like a joke when looking at the footage and the website, I seriously don't see anyone giving their money to these guys.

New info and apparently you can buy it now, although not quite sure who in their right mind would do that.

https://www.newsshooter.com/2018/07/18/more-details-emerge-about-the-cinemartin-fran-8k/

Yeah, it's a strange place that forum.. I own Red gear and I rarely have the urge to go to the forum for obvious reasons, although there are some good people posting valuable info there also. Red is a camera among others and that's pretty much it, some people seem to make it out to be almost a religion of some sorts.

9 minutes ago, Luke Mason said:

Trust me, I have my hands on some ProRes and DNG materials from the camera (acquired from NAB), it's clean af up to about 6400. Noise pattern is very pleasant fine grain, due to lack of compression obviously. The sensor is confirmed to be IMX294CJK, it's the STARVIS line from Sony Semicon with BSI design, originally intended for low light surveillance.

ProRes screenshot:

Nice! How the heck did you get this