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Holy moly this looks too good!

38 minutes ago, Raleigh said:

I checked there. Usually they do have live streams for their events. Can't find any live streams.

They probably don't have it up yet, check it again a moment before the event starts. I'm sure there also will be a link to it at https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/

11 minutes ago, Don Kotlos said:

Not missing anything, your assumption is correct. 

I will admit that this is the strangest new camera release that I have ever seen. Even Canon would not pull something like this. 

Strange indeed. I don't really see a point to upgrade to this if you own the mk1, but then again if you are going to upgrade from an fs5 you're probably going to move up to an fs7 or something similar.

1 minute ago, Anaconda_ said:

Does anyone know of a link to stream the announcement/reveal/event?

Usually the streams are on BMs own Youtube channel if I remember correctly

7 minutes ago, mercer said:

I think it looks kinda rad. Don’t know how I feel about external Raw only... but the price will dictate my feelings on that one. Anything over $1500 and I’ll pass for now. At a grand, I’m in. 

I don't mind the looks either and the grip looks pretty comfortable.

Keep in mind that it could be that 4k 60p raw is external only and 4k raw up to 30p might still be internal. If there is no internal raw at all it would be weird considering all other BM cameras have it and are kind of known for it in a way.

27 minutes ago, IronFilm said:

 

https://youtu.be/2M7CgEVgojM?t=1838

^ direct link to the FS5mk2 announcement

Funny how it took them 30 seconds to announce the ¨new¨ camera and go through the features. Kinda disappointing, although good that they are pushing for better colours.

Why couldn't they just add the new colour science via a firmware upgrade to the old model or am I missing something else here?

14 minutes ago, thefactory said:

I have seen the fs700 quite cheap around Australia lately. Might be time to pick one up and pair with the new ninja. 

Wonder what high frame rates it will support?

Unfortunately FS700 only does 4k through the SDI and this is probably hdmi only. Would be nice though if it had sdi too, a smaller 4k recorder is something I've been waiting for a while.

8 minutes ago, Don Kotlos said:

That's the most exciting news until now!!!

Yup, really looking forward to more info! Ready to buy it already :D

Philip bloom just posted this. New BM 4k pocket cam

 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155176035490426&id=177852000425

6 hours ago, IronFilm said:

Am still waiting on pricing... nothing yet about the LF, I guess it will be their most expensive one yet!

Their pre-order page says the LF pricing will be announced at BIRTV in august and shipping begins october.

http://www.kinefinity.com/shop/mavo_preorder/?lang=en (it says lang=en but you'll need google translate for this one :D )

http://www.kinefinity.com/mavo/

2 new cameras announced by Kinefinity, Mavo 6k S35 and Mavo LF 6k Fullframe.

Seems like they also announced a set of Cine lenses to go with it. Also some talk about a new user interface and an integrated Movcam wireless focus system.

Mavo LF Base ISO 1600 and supposed to be cleaner than previous cameras.

Cine DNG, ProRes and KineRAW 2.0?

2 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

Seriously, what do we know about the reliability and the build quality of Kinefity cameras? I have read that they sell well in Asia.

Of, course, I wouldn't call it exactly cheap and the crop factor is a bit weird.

Does anyone know if they are sold on continental Europe? Now with Brexit it's going to be tricky to buy from the UK.

HDVideoshop sells them in Germany.

https://hdvideoshop.com/en/

Not that many reviews out there, but Philip Bloom seems to have a Terra 4k and will probably make a review on it, atleast according to his social media.

3 minutes ago, Don Kotlos said:

There is no "must be established" requirement from Netflix: 

Camera Requirements

4K Resolution:
•Camera must have a true 4K sensor (equal to or greater than 4096 photosites wide).


Recording Format:
• Minimum of 16-bit Linear or 10-bit Log processing

• Bitrate of at least 240 Mbps (at 23.98/24 fps) recording

• Recording format must be set to either:


RAW (uncompressed or lightly compressed sensor data)


Log color space (i.e. S-Log3, V-Log, CanonLog3, REDLogFilm, BMDLog, LogC)

• No looks or color corrections should be baked into the original camera files.

• Files must maintain all metadata (i.e. Tape Name, Timecode, Frame Rate, ISO, WB, etc.)


Aspect Ratio / Framing:
• Aspect ratios greater than 2.00:1 must be evaluated and discussed with Netflix for approval.

• Framing chart must be shot before principal photography begins, and processed through the dailies pipeline which will be shared with editorial, post-production, and VFX.


 

Of course there is no such requirement, but as I said "that is the reason why Netflix or anyone else could refuse to use it in a production." By that I mean this camera is not something a higher end production would use regardless of the specs.

5 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:

It would be like any other budgeted production. They just won't approve any camera not on their spec requirements list without considerable negotiation. They want complete ownership of the highest native format they can get because of future proofing, and mostly for their in-house grading department. It's an aquisitional thing. That project is then getting distributed in a streamable format. 

I'm sure if Netfilx hired a world renouned DoP who absolutely insisted shooting on a DSLR or action cam or smartphone they're not going to be foolishly dismissive. 

I also suspect their spec requirements list is a bit outdated and in need of revision. To me the current list is what I would expect a professional colorist would desire as optimal footage to push around in grade. There is no logical reason why Kinefinity footage wouldn't be able to meet this request. Transcoding it's proprietory RAW footage is really not that big of a deal in the scheme of things. 

Yes, I'm familiar with their camera requirements, just joking around

I do think that it's great to see Kinefinity getting more resellers in Europe, but the biggest problem is that they're not "established" enough for more serious productions just yet and that is the reason why Netflix or anyone else could refuse to use it in a production. Maybe that'll change when their cameras get more exposure though. From what I've seen they seem like cool cameras and pretty cheap for what you get, specs-wise anyways. Philip Bloom seems to be testing out the Terra 4k so maybe he's doing some in-depth look at it at some point.

Also, if you happen to land a job to shoot something for netflix, there is a chance they have a budget for you to get a camera from a rental place if you ask nicely

12 hours ago, jonpais said:

Looks like Sigma's got some strong competition in the way of a tiny, obscure company on an island somewhere. Their cine line anyhow.

Those Fujinon zooms sound nice! Although it's kind of weird that they are only for e-mount. Is there some specific reason for this? I think there are a lot of people with ef mount cameras who are potential buyers for these lenses.

Sigma announced some new art lenses are coming! Long awaited 24-70 2.8 is one of them.

https://m.dpreview.com/news/1942581285/sigma-announces-14mm-f1-8-24-70mm-f2-8-and-135mm-f1-8-art-lenses

I remember when I bought the nex7 and it was so frustrating to use because of the constant overheating, but I tolerated it at the time because there was not many other cameras capable of 1080p60 in the price range. That was like 4-5 years ago or something? We are still complaining about the same issues and to me it's just shocking that they haven't already changed the form factor or done some other modifications to get rid of this problem that shouldn't exist in the first place.

I like a lot of footage that I have seen from 1dx mk2, but I kinda have to agree with some of the guys here and say this test video/stills doesn't look that good and imho doesn't quite support the point of the article itself. It looks very soft and color is almost weird at times.

Kinda weird that there is no upgrade to the af

Maybe better AF and the vari nd from fs5? Internal prores would be nice

Don't know what else they can put in there without stepping on f5/55 too much??

Looks pretty good but why is it that Canon can't do internal raw with this thing? Or they just don't want to? Seems very strange to me since everything else seems pretty well thought out on this one...

1 hour ago, IronFilm said:

Plus the F5 gets compressed raw now:

http://nofilmschool.com/2016/08/sony-releases-r3d-competitor-x-ocn

That is great news for F5/55 owners although it is kind of a bummer that you need the pricey and kinda bulky recorder to get that. While the size doesn't matter in normal production environments, it's always a plus if you can strip a camera down for special applications without losing features like this.

Anyway, it's good to see that Sony is getting in on the compressed raw formats so that they will be able to put it into their future cameras, hopefully to mid range/prosumer cams aswell.

Ebrahim, you keep talking about how sad and depressed you are because you have lost your credibility in this community. Why are you not doing anything to gain it back? You are just making yourself look worse and worse everytime you write here because you're not answering anyones questions. At least not the important ones.

If everything you say is true, just provide the evidence that people here want to see and no one would have to be bothered with this anymore.

I've been using Sennheiser ew100 for quite a few years now and it has worked great so far. This is the combo that also has a transmitter for a handheld mic which is also useful in some situations although I haven't used it that much. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/618735-REG/Sennheiser_EW_100_ENG_G3_A_Evolution_G3_100_Series.html

RodeLink seems also like a good option. It's cheaper but can't say much else about it since I haven't used it myself http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1115091-REG/rode_rodlnk_fm_rodelink_wireless_filmmaker_kit.html