sandro

I would like a bigger sensor to make it compete in the pictures part too! But I know this won't never happen:(

title should be : Cinema5D review of Canon 650D confirms no fix for moire, aliasing and resolution

The thing is there's no other => APS-C camera in the same price range that does better! Every single company tried to cripple DSRLs. Canon is just doing what everyone else is doing = just nothing.

At this point I don't think Canon is to be considered anymore(?). There won't be anything until 3y from now

From the first samples you can see no upgrade in video res. Not that someone was expecting any.

how about some samples? :D

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Wow it is good! Not the best resolution but def the only one that gets closer to the GH2.
I wonder how the D3200 will look..
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found the answer myself...it sucks

Wow it is good! Not the best resolution but def the only one that gets closer to the GH2.
I wonder how the D3200 will look..

He's right, unless that they did something in post that video shows real aliasing!

I'm talking about the 1080p file of course

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I doubt Canon was so stupid to limit the resolution via software though
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I fear you over-estimate the intelligence of the-powers-that-be at Canon.  Amazing engineers, but it is run like most big Japanese companies - by an elite group of old men stuck in the past and completely out of touch with reality.

Anyway, back to the subject of this article - Magic Lantern.  Fantastic news!  I think we all know the firmware is the main limiting factor in the 5D III's performance.  I haven't ordered yet and have been a vocal critic on these forums, but if it can be hacked to give a higher bitrate, I'm ready to buy.
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Well of course they did ! I meant in a way that can be changed via firmware hack!

if they can improve the resolution it will be a deal breaker. I doubt Canon was so stupid to limit the resolution via software though

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People like to hang to those packaged theories about Japan as a static traditional society, it reassure them.

Well. I would say that by having direct knowledge of Sony's corporate culture [b]they are not far away to the reality[/b]. But... this to me applies to Sony and the [b]error here is judging an entire society as a whole[/b]. Look at Toyota and you find huge investments on Hybrid cars that are going to get disruptive soon.

On the other side of the ocean the [b]US car industry has been quiet an example of "Stuck on incremental[/b], not disruptive innovation" and in the same time totally loosing the product quality and US is supposed to be a much more dynamic society... We could talk about Motorola, HP, Kodak, IBM etc...  In Europe there so many examples including Nokia etc...

So... to me Canon is really treating the lower part of the digital film market in very conservative way as did Sony and I bet that they will be obliged to react to avoid loosing a lot of customers like me and many on this forum
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100% agree with you

It's still TOO FUNNY that the C500 with 4k 120fps has the DV III processor!! This means they've been joking with us since day 1

I meant a DSRL with real 1080p.

I don't think Sony will do it because they're like Canon with high end cameras to protect.
The only hope is Panasonic and Nikon. Too bad Panasonic is stuck with 4/3:(

So Canon thinks it's better to release things "no one" could afford with stupid things missing (like articulating screen) instead of a great $800 650D wtih GH2-like 1080p that will [b]destroy [/b] every single product from competitors and sell millions?

I'll never understand how economy works ;D

I think this signs the end of video dominance for Canon? Its clear for them they only way to get a real 1080p on their DSLR you have to spend at least 10k

I would like to know if Canon is completely out of the game for low budget video so me and my lenses can move on :D

The aliasing on the D800 is HORRIBLE. No company can make it right :S

The video quality of D800 definitely DESTROYS THE CANON 5D!
I don't think it's like the FS100/GH2 but it comes very close

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so the resolution sucks?
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No it certainly doesn't. No anti-aliasing filter means the sensor and lens deliver optimal sharpness. Although it is 16MP to 24MP on the NEX 7 it keeps the low light advantage of a lower megapixel count with some of the resolution advantages of higher pixel count. See Nikon D800E for further example.
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Sorry I was talking about the video part

so the resolution sucks?

W-O-W

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Hmm, there's a 1080p version of Mario & Nette on YouTube. The beginning shots look a bit fuzzy, but I think they must have been shot at 720p because the rest is absolutely stunning! The softness isn't noticeable at all - it looks wonderful.
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There's no doubt the video looks good and better than the mk2 , there's simply more detail. BUT the footage is no way real 1080p, I would say a 720p that lets you down in fine details, typical of every non-GH2 DSLR

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Do we have 1080p videos from the D800 yet?
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Yes and they are as soft as 5D but with awful aliasing and moire. HDMI output on that camera might be a different bag.
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That's what I thought...