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It has it's place for certain projects. Are you doing the processing yourself? Also, with stuff like this you get a better idea of it's usability with portraits and subjects. Everything here is so far away and muddied. If you get a chance to shoot again, get some people/animals/closer subjects and try some with a good contrast. What's your camera/lens situation?

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Hi thanks for the reply. no I sent it off for processing. Yeah I was thinking if I was to do it again it would have to be mainly close up and medium shots. I'm using a movezoom 10 MOS with a sankor 16C so it vingnettes quite badly on anything but full zoom. The camera is great though. 

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Ah, so it's a fixed lens camera. That's a pretty rough setup for a long anamorphic. At least when doing digital you have a better chance of getting double focus just right. Your setup is pretty difficult, but not impossible. i know we'd all like to have some wider anamorphics :) I actually had a D-mount Kowa anamorphic lens for a little bit when I was thinking about getting a Back-bone Ribcage. 8mm stuff is sooo cheap here in Japan but I can't justify it right now.

Keep at it! Film will always have a special place!

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5 minutes ago, DanC1 said:

Why is super 8 so cheap in Japan? Can you recommend a way to be more spot on with the focussing? 

There's lots of it and not many people use it at all anymore. If somebody made a viable use for them digitally, the prices would go up. But with the exception of the BMPCC, there isn't really anything else on the market. So, anything that is specific to 8mm sits around until it's liquidated and you can get it cheap. Anything that can be used in other formats still carries a normal price.

Not sure what you can get for your camera eyepiece, but look into some adapters for eyepiece magnification. I haven't used one since I last shot on 16mm 15 years ago. The Bolex I had came with one. You might be able to get one for a DSLR on yours.

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Stick to super 8 like me :) Your Movexoom is a good camera. Most of the cameras are ridicolously cheap but stock and processing is so so expensive. I think its not cheap in Japan either. Single 8 was very popular there btw and is maybe better than super8. The problem with super 8 and anamorphic is that 2x stretch is too wide. The film is just too tiny and too grainy. The grain look oval. Thats why all those Iscos, Mollers (for 8mm) had only 1,5 factor. Only the Baby Hypergonar with 1,75 was wider. So you could achieve true 2:35 cinemascope. But the image was too bad. Try to use Kodak 50D negative stock that has so little grain like 16mm and will work best with your 2x Sankor. Keep on filming ! :)

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Thanks Rudolf, I'll definitely try 50D next. One of the main problems I'm having is vignetting at anything other than full zoom. Which makes it really difficult to handhold. I wonder if there's a solution to this. 

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2 hours ago, DanC1 said:

Thanks Rudolf, I'll definitely try 50D next. One of the main problems I'm having is vignetting at anything other than full zoom. Which makes it really difficult to handhold. I wonder if there's a solution to this. 

Unfortunately, other than getting the anamorphic closer to the lens glass, the only way to get rid of the vignette is to get a bigger and/or shorter anamorphic. The Sankor is really long (I actually have one sitting on my desk right now) and the glass elements aren't that big. You'd have to get your hands on one of the 8mm anamorphics or one of the larger 16mm anamorphics.

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On 21/07/2017 at 11:04 PM, whoisjsd said:

Unfortunately, other than getting the anamorphic closer to the lens glass, the only way to get rid of the vignette is to get a bigger and/or shorter anamorphic. The Sankor is really long (I actually have one sitting on my desk right now) and the glass elements aren't that big. You'd have to get your hands on one of the 8mm anamorphics or one of the larger 16mm anamorphics.

Thanks, do you guys have any recommendations for larger 8mm or 16mm anamorphics? 

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Of course the mighty Iscorama 54 is the best bet for Super 8. It was built for that purpose. Works great with the high quality Schneider zooms you could find on many different Super 8 cameras especially the better ones (Leicina, Braun, Beaulieu, Movexzoom, Fujica ZC, Nikon, Canon). But this is quite expensive. I have another suggestion but I am not sure if this will work (I sold my Sankor 16F about 6 years ago...): The tiny and cheap Canon 310 XL-S is a great camera and has a very small zoom lens. This could reduce vignetting significantly. This could be a cheap alternative. Good luck! :) 

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Thanks Rudolf, that's a great idea. Just stuck a bid on one! In some ways sticking extra 'glass' in front of the movexzoom electronic seems a shame when it seems like a great super 8 camera. 

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On 7/23/2017 at 7:47 PM, Rudolf said:

Of course the mighty Iscorama 54 is the best bet for Super 8. It was built for that purpose. Works great with the high quality Schneider zooms you could find on many different Super 8 cameras especially the better ones (Leicina, Braun, Beaulieu, Movexzoom, Fujica ZC, Nikon, Canon). But this is quite expensive. I have another suggestion but I am not sure if this will work (I sold my Sankor 16F about 6 years ago...): The tiny and cheap Canon 310 XL-S is a great camera and has a very small zoom lens. This could reduce vignetting significantly. This could be a cheap alternative. Good luck! :) 

Did you ever use the sankor 16f with a super8 camera? I bought one and i would like to try It with my super8

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