TheBoogieKnight

3 hours ago, Skip77 said:

The Z cameras do 10 bit external and 12 bit RAW is on it's way.  When another mirrorles camera besides the S1 can do 12 bit Raw comes along then I'll agree that the Z lineup is "desperation attempt by them." (Nikon).  

The EOS - R is a joke for video and the S1 is almost a clone of the Z6.  And don't come back with "if" the Z6 get Raw or no one wants Raw. ProRes Raw is no the data hog of other Raw codecs. 

What would have made the Z6 a breakthrough in your mind ? 4K60FPS pr two card slots? Because we all know the FS7 has two card slots. 

Nikon has the advantage of all the users that have Nikon glass coming over to the Z line up. Nikon owners are not switching to Canon or Panasonic.

Still don't get this S1 is a clone of the Z6. The S1 has a totally different codec (HEVC vs x264) and is far better in terms of high-iso performance.

Brilliant, that's great info. Those 300 panels look pretty neat; do you find them bright enough?

Hi everyone!

I'm interesting in getting into videography and offering to record first dances etc. at weddings. I have a question regarding auto or manual focus. Are any of the current crop of full-framers (Z6, A7 III and S1) good enough focusing in low-light to make using auto a viable proposition, or would I be better off sticking to manual? Recently tried an S1 and have to say I loved it in every way but I'm worried that the auto focusing wouldn't be good enough (from the tests I've seen it wouldn't), and that manual focus just wouldn't cut it when recording a dance. I won't be adding gimbals or extra screens etc., I just want to produce great results straight out of the camera. Do people usually use manual in these types of situations or would something like an A7III/Z6 be good enough left on auto?

Any advice really would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you and have a lovely weekend!

17 hours ago, Skip77 said:

You mean this test by the same guy? Looks like the Z6 and S1 look very close to the same to me except the S1 has CRSUHED BLACKS on the guys shirt. Other then that the look the same. And who shoots at 204,800? 

And we are waiting for footage that shows the S1 kills the Z6 in image quality. Are you trolling us?

 

 

Which one is the half assed hybrid? The GH5? It couldn't be that one because still images aren't even Canon Ti3 / K-Mart level. You crack me up with the Panasonic AF100 comment because the Z6 destroys that ancient camcorder. But I know it takes time to forget about those great camcorders and how many we bought back in the day. Lol

No comments on the video? crushed blacks or anything?

Hi again

I think you misunderstood me. My point was that the Z6 and S1 are totally different beasts. Not only does the S1 get a far better image at high ISO, but it uses a completely different internal CODEC too (265 vs 264 although you can pick 264 on the S1 too). I just don't think they're comparable and the evidence points to everything but them collaborating.

1 hour ago, Skip77 said:

I'm not a fan of the C100 as the camera to buy for cooperate, doc work. 1080p on the C200 or most camera are not detailed enough (outside of Arri). I think you're selling your self short on the Z6 or S1 ( I say both because the image and specs look exactly the same and I honestly think the collaborated on the two cameras). The Z6 holds it's own against the D850 as in a second camera if you go with Nikon and get Nikon glass. The cine line up and rental outlets have their place for what we do and the Z6 is not the answer yet but it is the answer as a B-camera and A-camera on certain jobs like corporate, doc work act. 

Old school thinking says stay with a 5 year old cine camera for $3,500 but the sensor has so much time before it has issues and the whole giant battery, rig is about to be outdated as the only way you get a camera up and running. I am confused that you say no to the Atomos and Z6 but say just go buy a used cine camera and be done with it. 

12bit Raw with the Atomos and Z6 to XQD cards is beyond what the A7III can do or the GH5. To me the GH5 is the turkey of the bunch because you can't get around bad color and 4/3 compressed footage. The GH5 was a great jump in technology at the time but it has more smoke and mirrors then any camera Sony ever marketed and Panasonic got everyone to pay 1K dollars more then they should have for the GH5. 

Surprised you say this about the Z6 and S1 as they S1 totally kills the Z6 image quality wise. Then there's the high-ISO performance where the Z6 isn't even remotely close, as in around 2 stops worse and still inferior image quality.

Watche from 2:37, it's night and day between them and there's no resemblance at all.