MrSMW

Each to their own, but I find it a seriously useful tool, especially with 6k as it extends the focal length of my lenses by up to around 2x. This allows me to use shorter and lighter lenses which are also cheaper to buy in the first place such as a pair of Lumix 20-60mm’s which I can easily get over 100mm of reach with in post. Arguably, you can crop any footage, but 6k has an advantage over 4k as 8k does over 6k, but sweet spots and all that… Same approach for me with stills these days as in using a higher megapixel camera as it allows me to use less hardware which means a lighter load and more flexibility from less kit, albeit at the expense of some storage, but that in itself is much cheaper than extra bodies and lenses etc.

I went with the RX10ii back in the day and my only criticism was the lack of low light performance otherwise it was a superb bit of kit for photo or video. At the time.

Yes, the S5ii I think has very much claimed the place of the S1. The S9 is a bit…well not very robust in terms of feel compared with the S5ii. The G9ii using the same body I kind of got and made sense. No S2R 6 months after the SL3 makes me think what was all that L3 alliance bollocks then because to the best of my knowledge, other than if Panasonic gifted Leica some video tech, it was a one way street. Maybe the delay (not that anything has been announced so nothing official anyway) is a bad sign…or maybe it’s a good sign… Fingers crossed though as Lumix were just beginning to get some traction. Their two biggest problems IMO have always been: A. Too slow to market (with limited official announcements) and B. Limited if not absolute piss poor marketing. As with so many companies, maybe there’s an element of ‘chicken and egg’ going on in that they haven’t, or more likely choose, not to spend enough on marketing, but then sales are poor? It’s not enough simply to be the best. There needs to be hype or you might as well not exist and someone else (Sony) WILL be eating your lunch. Or maybe next week, they will announce the greatest product line ever…

Sounds like someone else I know… The latter sentence especially…

Shhh, don’t want to hear that… Actually, it would not be the end of the world, at least my world, if they never made another FF camera because the S5ii does all I need it to do and arguably, could see out my working life with them. I think it’s unlikely though. The S5ii has been and is pretty popular, at least on MeTube…but not sure if that has any relation to actual sales, but you mostly only come across praise. So I would be highly surprised if there wasn’t and Lumix are not like Sony and bang out new cameras every year and how long did it take for both the GH6 and GH7 to appear?! I have faith something FF is coming, but slightly surprised no 1/2 price SL3 which is slightly concerning… I don’t ‘need’ a S2H or an S2R, but might want one…or both, and the world will just be a better place with them in it regardless 💫

Watched on 16" MacBook full screen and my takeaway/opinion was: Best detail 4k 25p = Canon Best detail 4k 50p = Canon Best low light 4k = Sony Best colour = Lumix (which surprised me) Best DR = Lumix and worst DR = Canon Best image of the lot, Lumix 6k 25p, especially in open gate. Does the 6k mode reduce IBIS ability slightly? Maybe but as Lumix already has arguably the best IBIS as a starting point, it's probably comparable at least with Canon and better than the Sony which most reckon is still a bit behind. Lumix 6k 25p open gate for the win then. I prefer 30p for various reasons.

Well this last weekend 3 day job was the first time I actually got to use every bit of kit as intended and it passed. With flying colours. And it was not without it's challenges at times including some rain and a fair bit of wind... The S5ii's are for me right now, just perfect and will be for the foreseeable future. The A7RV for stills, other than the occasional need to drop out and reinsert the battery, approx 1 in every 500 actuations (I switch off in-between use a couple of hundred times per shoot at least) really only has one niggle and that is even with the Smallrig baseplate, still isn't quite as good in the hand as I'd like (but waaaaaay better than the Nikon Zf) so added a Peak Design clutch strap for the next couple of jobs that I think will fix that, but if not, I might consider a battery grip because with the 20-40, it's no issue, 28-75, slight issue and it's really only with the 70-180, it becomes a bit annoying. I have nothing now I feel any NEED to change and won't for the rest of the year, but for the future/2025... A 'S2H' might be of interest to replace one of the S5ii's as my run & gun unit, but not sure it will bring anything to the party...but we'll see. It might be an option just for interest and to replace spiritually, my now dearly departed S1H. A 'S2R' might be of interest to replace the A7RV, but struggling a bit with lenses for that to happen. The Sigma 28-45mm f1.8 would need to spawn a longer sibling...so again, we'll see, but 2 things that would need to happen there. Pondering either a fast prime around 35mm'ish for low light photography or possibly a sidekick for the A7RV to weld the 20-40mm to and reserve this unit purely for 'after dark' duty which can be 20-25% of any job. It would also act as a stills back up (at all other parts of any job) to the A7RV as currently, I'd have to pull one of the S5ii's off video duty to fill that role of called upon. Contenders for this backup/night role are: ZV-E1 (12mp stills does not faze me in the slightest but it's AF ability in low light does a bit) A7Cii (AF ability in low light again, concerns me slightly compared with say the Zf...) Nikon Zf which was fantastic in low light, but is a bit of a chonky boy. Hmmm, fact cheap f1.8 lens sub 500 vs second used body around 1.5-2k... It's the only area where the A7RV could be improved upon. It's not bad, fairly decent even, but I know it could be better and probably won't happen this year as I'm getting close to season end and don't really need to test anything, but ideally would like to do something for 2025. But then there is a rumoured Sony 24/28-105mm f2.8 coming soon and that could throw a spanner in the works and push me towards a second body and lose a lens in the process. We'll see, but very happy with the hybrid set up I have now finally achieved after almost 15 years of effort in this genre. I have now merely entered the stage I shall call, 'just fannying about really', as in anything else/new now is just tinkering for tinkering sake rather than need.

Is that level of haze/smog a regular thing in Seoul? If so, makes it a very cinematic city to work in!

Liar liar, overheating Canon R5 user's house on fire.

I want to believe.

Late ‘24 would be perfect for me as my season would be over and that would mean 4+ months to consider prior to my ‘25 season. I miss my S1H but to be fair it’s been in a B cam role since the S5ii came out for reasons of autofocus.

For me it is and all 6k capture these days being on the wagon re. slow mo. At least anything beyond 80% anyway. 4k for anything up to or around 10 mins for clients ie, wedding ‘films’, but longer stuff such as full ceremonies and speeches of 20-60 mins, always 1080 delivery from me.

It is a legit excuse isn’t it Tim? I’m trying to build a business case to shell out 20k+ on a body and 3 lenses…

I didn’t realise you had an OF channel. Where can I find it?

I don’t think it’s gimmicky, wrong term applied in this instance, but will most consumers make the most of any product? Maybe, maybe not, but without these things being added to mainstream bits of kit, those of us who are working pros at the lower levels, can have access that might not otherwise be possible. I’m all for the latest tech being added because whilst I might not use all of it, there is usually something lower down that I will. Also, of specific interest to me re. 8k, is that far superior ability to pull stills over 6k footage which is superior to 4k footage which is to 1080 etc… Still have not had the opportunity to properly explore that though made some tweaks to the settings on my last job to have a go from 6k footage. So tech is not always ‘tech for tech sake’, some of us, pro and non-pro, will at least explore if not fully utilise the capability. And then there is raw. Do I need raw? Nope. Are my cameras raw capable? Yep. Am I going to utilise that? Possibly/probably not, but I like the fact the option exists should I wish to without having to resort to changing my cameras to do so.

I’m not too bothered about that as everything I produce (wedding videos mainly) are for the rest of their lives and one argument might be to shoot in 8k just so that one day…but nah, not unless they wished to pay a massive premium…which gives me an idea… Option for client to have a ‘free’ upgrade from 4k to 6k (as I am already shooting in 6k, not that they know it) but offer a paid option to shoot and deliver in 8k to ‘future proof’ their memories. It would have to be a fairly hefty premium because for me that would mean a whole new 8k system of 3 bodies plus lenses, plus massively increased storage etc… Could also be an option for stills if they wished to print a 3x life size version of themselves on the side of their house and a legit excuse for me to buy a Hassie X2D 🤔

I work with multiple camera systems on every job; Sony, Lumix and DJI. Plus lenses that zoom in different directions; Sigma and Tamron, though I think I can change the direction of the Tamron’s with software but not done that yet. I’m also my own sound and light engineer. Proper multi-tasker me 😜

I’m happy with 6k. 6k for me is the sweet spot for cropping in post or stability cropping in camera and then outputting as either 4k or 1080. S5ii 6k is nicer to my eye than the 4k despite being 420 and not 422 and can be ‘degraded’ to be more ‘cinemantic’. Great for also cropping 9x16 for social media from 3:2 Open Gate.

Fair point. Which is one reason I really do not like changing kit…though I have ‘had’ to for years until recently, as I much prefer familiarity so the tools can largely get out of the way. I was only thinking just today how my main stills camera of just a couple of months, now feels very familiar. But for those having to rent, then yes, I can see how menus could be a real PITA.

I have near zero issues with any menu. Some take more learning than others and after you have your settings, how often do you use the things? Lumix are better than Sony I think and Nikon’s are pretty decent as were Fuji’s and the Leica and Hasselblad’s look excellent. But ultimately, as above, I hardly use menus other than before a job reformatting cards etc. I do like and use custom buttons though and have 3 settings on my video units; indoor, outdoor and ‘gimbal-like’. For my sole photo unit, also 3; uncompressed raw, compressed and APSC crop. For anything else, each camera has a single page quick menu for pretty much everything including; IBIS, WB, ISO, etc… Nah, menus aren’t that big a deal!

Which was my final camcorder, but then swapped it for kind of it’s more modern contemporary, the RX10ii ‘bridge’ camera…but those are also pretty much dead now.

The thing about the FP is apart from it being as cool as fuck, is it’s size/weight and the image it produces. I looked at every possible way of making it work for my needs including: L model for the AF. Rear tilt screen mod or rigging a monitor at the rear to use as a tilt (because not a fan of top mounted monitors). 24-105 f4 purely because of the OIS. SSD for the storage so not relying on a single SD card. Needs a cage and grip or just too unwieldy. But it kept coming back to the same thing which is other than the outright IQ, Lumix’s S5ii. And that is essentially what we want, - everything the S5ii can do, but in the FP body and with its IQ. Along with Tamron, my favourite line up of lenses. For zooms, Tamron but for primes, Sigma. However, if Sigma produce a longer focal length sibling to the recent 28-45mm f1.8 also with internal zoom, it’s game over for me. The 28-45 is almost a dead cert for next year for me for one of my systems, - either my Sony stills, or my Lumix video, but it will be determined by a number of factors and one of those (two actually) is what Lumix does with the next gen S1 line, or what Sigma do (if anything) with the FP line. If there is any next gen FP following on from the L, as long as it can tick a combination of various boxes, I reckon I’d go all in not just on L Mount, but all in on Sigma full stop. It’s up to Sigma, not me to make it happen, but FP-L with IBIS and tilt screen alone, that would be enough for me as those are the two things it doesn’t have that are the biggest deal breakers for me.

I’m going to bookmark this thread and make a note in my 2026 diary. There possibly may even be an unboxing video re. the 7d replacement?

Forgiven. Mention any of the following and I will also respond: OG X100 Pro1, Pro2 XH1 S1H …and others 😂

Please please please Sigma make another but with less deal-breakers (for me) (and many others). My ‘most wanted’ camera that I have never been able to own.