Michael Steiner

? This post was a genuinely funny read. Adequate tone for the decision made by Canon (if it really gets confirmed in the next few days). Way more healthy to just laugh at this. And I say that as a Canon shooter who hoped to replace the M50 with one of these... Hope dies last, but it dies... ?

Couldn't have said it better! 24p was in the 60D, 70D and 80D. Removing it now is just a silly and unnecessary move. While I also haven't shot in 24p for years lots of people do. And it would just be nice to have that option in this camera too.

I had to laugh out loud reading this. But anyway, there's no reason to skip 24p in this camera when they had it in any other of their xxDs and even the M cameras. No argument. Licence fees? I don't buy that.

I'd say it either means pixel binning or line skipping...

Relax. Not saying 24p is for "film wannabes" only, that was somebody else. I just said that I never shoot 24p. But I have absolutely no problem with people shooting 24p. Edit: Ok, I get it now. My sarcasm-detector was off when I quoted ntblowz... Yet I still shoot all my stuff in 25p. Nothing wrong with that in Europe from my POV.

While I never shoot 24p either – it's just silly if they're really leaving out 24p again. As if they'd want to give their critics a valuable argument by purpose. But there's still hope they just listed the highest fps in PAL and NTSC modes in the 90D video and 24p is in there nonetheless...

I think you are way to critical, and I mean that in a good way. Watching without knowledge about what camera etc. was used for me was a good experience, kind of like looking mor freely at the videography... And yours looked nothing short of good to my eyes. So for me this competition was also a reminder that filming is a craft first. And that good craftsmen and -woman can work with every tool. ?

Hey TrueIndigo Thanks for the explanation. I had no idea octagonal photosites even existed... I assume there are less issues with moire on that sensor, if any at all? Very cool!

In all honesty: I would have paid off the winner of the competition the amount 60Ds go on Ebay right now rather than handing over mine if I lost. This is the first camera I bought with my own money so it has some emotional value for me and will remain on my shelf ?

Congrats to @PannySVHS and @Framed_By_Dan and to all other participants as well! Some very exotic camera choices and lenses already revealed. Now I'm particularly curious to see what camera @TrueIndigo has used. I liked the colours of that one the most. And of course which lens created that unusual bokeh in the contribution of @Wronzoff. My choice was very boring and unspectacular, as I used what I already owned: Canon 60D and 60mm Macro with some cheap 0.9 ND (EOS standard colour profile without any grading).

You can export up to UHD in the free version of resolve. 4K DCI and above only in the studio-version. Not sure about any other limitations.

Ok. Now reading this, it's even more ridiculous than I thought. If, as a billionaire, a small blog can cause this kind of "sufferings" I think the one to consult is not a lawyer.

This whole story shines a completely new light on RED, one that doesn't make that company look too nice (to say it politely). Seeing they forced Mr. Reid to shut up with a lawsuit back in 2010 is telling. In german you'd call that "Mit Kanonen auf Spatzen schiessen" – use the big gun to shoot the small guy. It's ridiculous and contradicts everything RED (in my understanding) wanted to stand for back then. I don't agree with everything Mr. Reid writes, but I firmly support that he can write whatever he wants in his own blog. Nothing wrong with that. While I think RED does indeed merit respect for turning the camera industry upside down with their first cameras, there doesn't seem to be much left from that underdog attitude and REDs self promoted goal of empowering the little guy with affordable Cinema grade gear. Or worse, it was just a nice image they gave themself to attract attention. Remember them teasing a small fixed-lens camera with 3K for 3K? They even had a teaser-video with pimps, whores, cops and skaters shot on that little beast. Now in contrary RED seems to be responsible for preventing the next step in the evolution of motion pictures. They were first to the party but didn't let anybody else enter since then. From a business standpoint that's kind of understandable. But considering how RED promoted itself it's just sad and they deserve being called out for that.

The self-hosted Video looks better in Safari than anything I have seen on Vimeo and YouTube so far – good job Mr. Reid! But in Chrome the Thumbnail remains visible after pressing play while sound is playing fine (iMac 5K, 2017). Is that only happening on my Computer? And yes – great IQ on the S1! Impressive

Good old 4:3. The colors look quite good for me. Did you need to import from tape to edit this? If this camera really is native 4:3, I bet you had to pay quite a lot to own one back then. Good job Edit: since there seems to be only an auto-mode to shoot video, I assume this could just as well be shot with one of the better video capable DSLRs in the early days of digital imaging.

Very interesting, unusual Bokeh on this shot (for my eyes at least). I wonder what lens created that... Nice grading too!

I absolutely agree with you. But I don‘t think this contradicts what I said . My point is that putting better video specs into Cameras with stills oriented form and ergonomics will not compensate for the sales lost to smartphones. The cake got bigger, but the slice for MILCs and DSLRs is getting proportionally smaller. And from my POV it’s not because of technical reasons. Just like offering 96kHz 24bit WAVE support could not turn around the decline in sales of portable music players (not the best comparsion but you get my Point).

Yes they are. In masses. Even BBC has a few guys that use iphones as A-Cams and even more that use them as B-Cams. No way there‘s enough volume in the video centric market to replace what has been lost to smartphones.

So how long does it take to be doomed? Seems like a longterm project... Just asking because I have the impression of reading the same comments since the launch of the 5DIII six (or even seven?) years ago. And yet Canons bankruptcy still does not seem on the horizon... But irony aside, some honest questions: How many Cameras do the members of this forum buy? How often do you upgrade? Did you upgrade from the 5DII to the 5DIII and to the 5DIV? From the 60D to the 70D to the 80D? From XT2 to XT3? From A7S to A7SII? I ask because I'm not convinced (but could be wrong of course) that the crowd of lower end professionals and ambitious amateurs using DSLRs and mirrorless ILCs for their video creations have that much impact on the overall market. Is it a loud crowd? I'd guess so. But is it as relevant for a Camera company as it thinks it is? I bought my first camera in 2008 and since then in total eight. Only four of them costed more than 1000, of those four only two costed more than 2000 (but those were dedicated video cameras). Am I an exception? Not saying Canon (or Sony) is doing everything right. But isn't the impact of Smartphones on sales for these kind of Cameras way bigger than that of video-oriented guys like we are? Would a Camera that fits all our video guys needs really be the turning-point for Canon? Being offended because Sonys new 60MP Camera doesn't have intriguing video-specs seems kind of pointless. Asking for a 3500$ 1DXIII is nothing short of naive. I agree with Mr. Reid that this is a decisive moment for Camera companies. But would internal RAW in 4K120p really be the solution to these companies problems? I'd say a big piece of the cake has gone to Smartphone companies forever, no matter what specs they put into their cameras.

Completely agree that Adobe abuses it's position as a near monopolist. Had to finish an edit someone else started in Premiere and paid 35€ to use that single app for a month (no PS, AE etc.). Got impatient in short time so exported an XML to FCPX and finished it there. Move away from Adobe, it's possible. We got used to shoot with many different cameras so that should be doable with software too. - Instead of Premiere use FCPX or Resolve. I use FCPX since it launched 8 years ago, I'd say we had around 20 updates so far for which they have never charged anything. Paid 300$ (400$ with motion and compressor) and that's it. - Instead of Ligthroom/Photoshop use Capture One for organizing and RAW-conversions. Add Pixelmator or even better Affinity Photo and Affinity Designer if necessary. C1 costs around 300$ (upgrades around 120$). The Affinity apps are 40$ each and well worth that price. There's no doubt you'll save money in the long term if you avoid Adobe. And if the world would stopp using that damn Microsoft Office I'd be completely subscription free ?

Nice! This as well as other contributions for me is proof enough that what‘s in front of the camera and who‘s behind it still matters more than bitrate, bit depth and resolution. I bet you‘d have happy clients even when this was your only tool available. Good job!

Thank you both! The sun shined into the room perfectly to create this high contrast scene without any additional lights (just a small reflector next to the camera to lift the blacks a little bit). Me too. I like the washed out colors, looks almost like 8mm film. Very cool!

I'm not one of the heavy-duty contributors here but thought this was an inspiring idea and blew the dust off my very first self bought camera. Happy to see it still works and my muscle-memory was back within five minutes of handling that good old boy.

I wasn't referring to inflation but arguing more along the line of "times change"... (and admit it wasn't the best of analogies) But when you look at the current prices of MBP, iMac and iMac Pro I still think it was naive to hope for a 3000$ entry price for this machine. I'm absolutely fine with that, don't be sorry ? My main point was and still is that some people just need to manage their expectations a little better for the sake of their own health and for the benefit of more pragmatic discussions in these forums. Be it Apple, Canon, Sony or whatever company – crying "rip off", "they lost touch", "they're doomed", "they don't know what they are doing" and whatnot every time they launch a new product is annoying. And it is mostly based on individual and highly unrealistic expectations and the wrong assumption that the personal needs are those that any company has to fulfill. It's just a stupid, never ending discussion running in circles. Sure, everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. But most of the time these opinions reflect just some weird feelings. If there was any valuable expertise behind these outcries you'd better start a consulting company in Silicon Valley. Cheers

Sorry, but your reply is just proof of my point. QED If you bought a Ford A in 1903, you paid less than a grand. Prices of 2009 mean nothing. Regulare Macs do now maybe 80% of what you needed a MacPro for back then. I fully agree with what Mr Stasianos wrote up there: If you aren‘t at least relieved Apple brought this MacPro you‘re not the targeted customer for it. Go have a look at what the highend people think of it, there‘s quiet some excitement. For all normal creators I think the following is what Apple thinks too: You dont have to like apple. If you cant live with what they offer, it might be better to move on... But stating they have lost their way is ridiculous. Thats what I mean by being personally offended. Dont extrapolate from your feelings.