Myownfriend

20 minutes ago, Palpet said:

Myownfriend hasn't contributed ANYTHING. He's just trolling to boost his ego.

As if I'm the one that started this fire? I can admit that I can get emotional, but a troll I am not.

And now he's giving out my email address? What was the point, so that your "followers" can harass me via email or something? Btw, that's a reference to a movie, a well known one, that inspired a lot of people to get into film-making. Is that something that someone who works on films should be ashamed off?

Also Andrew, that "mumbling" that that Chinese Youtuber is doing isn't mumbling but actually another language believe it over not. And considering you can't understand his language and don't know who it is, you're assuming a lot to put him down.

4 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

Why ARE you here then? To assault me with insults all day long?

As if I hadn't already said that I came here to participate in the forum. Not like I joined just to insult you. You aren't the draw of the forum, at least not for me, and I'm sure for most members of this forum. I didn't join this place to get closer to prestigious Andrew Reid. I joined so that I can participate in discussions with the likes of people like Captain Hook and John Brawley.

Seriously, from a guy who has an ego of his own, you really need to get yours under control. 

1 minute ago, Andrew Reid said:

I am not the person whose way of thanking enthusiastic customers...

Again, not his customers and in some case, not even Blackmagic's customers. 

11 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

No gratitude whatsoever. You're as bad as the people on the Facebook thread. My family is probably reading that. Who wants to put up with this shit over an f-ing camera?

Why should you get any? I never got anything from your articles. You're not a star here. Stop acting like you deserve praise. You don't want to put up with people disagreeing with you then don't start a forum. At least now I know that you apparently did this all to try to create a following for yourself. And I know that, should you ever talk about a Blackmagic product again, I'll know that you're speaking from the perspective of someone whose bitter that they wouldn't stroke your ego.

I just want to point out that JB and I got into a disagreement recently and, for all I know, he was probably including me in that post that you quoted in your blog and I didn't go on a "That no good John Brawley. Thinking he's so special. *huff puff*" rant. The guy gets @'d by idiots and non-idiots alike all day.

2 minutes ago, hijodeibn said:

Can somebody block this asshole please?

Andrew probably will in due time. I'm not one of his followers so he probably doesn't want me on this forum. That's something he actual does have the right to, but I'll still consider him a child for doing it ?

The fact is that all the people who've visited his site over the years have been supporting him by doing so. I could just as easily read his post to suggest that he feels we're all lucky to read his opinions. I've personally never found the few posts that I read of his to be all that enlightening but I wasn't gonna fault him for that... until he wrote his recent blog post.

1 minute ago, Andrew Reid said:

I think that's entitlement right there.

Who are these idiots who think they're entitled to read one free blog post after another for years with no advertising, from an indie filmmaker, whilst giving back absolutely nothing in return, in fact worse than that slinging a shit ton of hatred my way in my own front room, just at the moment he's feeling really quite down?

You're the one who made your posts and forums available for free. If you thought you had the pull to charge for them then you probably would have. Quit your bitching ?

3 minutes ago, hijodeibn said:

you are now judging him in his blog and telling him he is "like a child", well, if you don´t follow him, then why are you here?, just move to another forum, if you are here you clearly are following him.....didn´t you know this is HIS BLOG?....really?

I don't post on BMC user because of I'm a "follower" of the person who made the site, I post because of the community. Same reason I posted on DV info for many years or on Facebook groups or on hear. If someone acts childish and entitled then why wouldn't I call them out on it on their own site. Owning a site isn't a special thing nor is a shield to any criticisms.

8 minutes ago, Shirozina said:

That is the assumption but why no mention in the specs and why the low data rates in the specs?

They aren't low, those are the standard bit rates of ProRes at those resolutions and frame rates. The bit rates are all listed in megabytes per second not megabits. I think they didn't specify because I guess ProRes is usually at least 10-bit and probably because no Blackmagic camera has ever recorded in 8-bit so they may have wrongfully assumed that everyone knew already.

1 hour ago, Trek of Joy said:

I would guess at this point anything not coming from Blackmagic is clickbait fakes. Preorders have undoubtedly gobbled up the first few months of production, perhaps longer. They're going to sell them as fast as they can crank them out for awhile. The P4k certainly doesn't need a blogger junket like the EOS-R to convince people to buy, it looks flat out amazing.

Chris

The video taken at the Seoul Zoo wasn't uploaded by BMD but was confirmed legitimate by BMD and the person who filmed it took a picture of the Pocket 4K setup that they used.

2 hours ago, wyrlyn said:

Can you record CDNG at 3840x2160 and 1920x1080 or it is DCI 4K only?

Cinema DNG is always full sensor or windowed when in that mode.

You cannot record CDNG 3840 x 2160 and 1920 x 1080. Only DCI 4K.

 

by AskBMD on BH page.

Except that's completely wrong. You can shoot all resolutions in RAW or ProRes. When they say it always shoots "full sensor" they mean that it's a 1:1 pixel mapping with no super sampling so 3840x2160 and 1920x1080 would be considered "windowed".

14 minutes ago, IncriminatingPictures said:

Fair enough, I believe you're right. I'm definitely no professional colorist, and I probably have started to lean towards preferring more warmer tones lately. 

I found myself doing that a bit awhile back too and I kind of called myself out on it. When I stopped shying away from green tints and cooler tones, I started notice how much color contrast and I was robbing that picture of. Of course, that's just when it comes to color correction not when going to for a look.

3 minutes ago, IronFilm said:

I wonder if BMD will ever offer built in NR or sharpening? For users who wanted SOOC footage closer to what they desire. 

I think part of the issue is just that they're using an FPGA. An actually custom chip would be more suited to that.

1 minute ago, IncriminatingPictures said:

Maybe, but I found it to be the case in the other 2 shots I colored as well. All three had to have reds and oranges pushed into the highs and mids. 

They're actually properly white balanced. You just tend to prefer things to be very warm looking judging from your grades.

For example, the sun is rising in the balloon shot and everything else in the shot is in shadow so it would actually be very blue because it's being lit by the sky itself. In the forest shot, you made all the trees very yellow which makes things feel sunnier, but the trees are obviously green.

A lot of BMD shooters seem to do that though, but it's a preference, it's not accurate.

32 minutes ago, IncriminatingPictures said:

Yeah I really like the BM color science in this PCC4k, but it does skew cool in the highlights and mids for sure. I'm pushing quite a bit of orange and red into them for that balloon shot, using the color wheels in Lumetri. 

Pretty sure that was just what the white balance was set to.

1 hour ago, webrunner5 said:

I think it is better than some crushed blacks I see people doing a lot. 

Yea, I don't understand that one. I'm seeing some grades where all the detail in her hair is just crushed out.

Just now, webrunner5 said:

Well lets see your 3200 ISO grade. I like a old school CIne look, not a Digital GH5 look. So sure not the best for 5 minutes of work, but..

I think the issue the milky blacks

41 minutes ago, John Brawley said:

I had the audio in camera turned off in mine. You don't want to listen to me directing the cast and "handling" the camera.

JB

As someone who has no experience with BMD's newer cameras, I didn't know that was an option. I kind of love that ? Saves a little (very little) space when shooting certain things.

25 minutes ago, deezid said:

(where's the chroma noise from the vimeo clips?)

I think you might have crushed it in your grade. I still see it in my grade.

Can't help it. I tend to like a less punchy grade ?

4 hours ago, jonpais said:

Probably unrelated, but I beta test LUTs quite often, and after working with one I like for months, sometimes my reaction to a new one is, ‘ugh, this one’s too light, too dark, green in the shadows, too difficult to expose for, too much work in post, etc.’; but after playing around with it for a while, I discover it actually is an improvement.

This is something that frequently frustrates me even outside of the videography/photography world. People get so set in their ways that they may even choose to use something objectively worse just because they're used to it. It's always good to see that there are people willing to sit down with something and not reject it just because it's different.

2 hours ago, John Brawley said:

This camera will probably replace the micro cinema camera for me as it’s not much bigger and is much easier to work with. 

This is actually surprising to hear. From what I can tell, the Pocket 4K is a little larger than two Micro's side by side, but I guess after rigging up the Micro it very quickly loses it's size advantage.

Actually this reminds me, there's a guy who's a BMD evangelist whose name escapes me at the moment but he's an older gentleman, who was interviewed about the Pocket 4K and said that the final version will be a little lighter (which we knew was the case with the whole carbon fiber thing) but also slightly smaller. Do you know if there's any truth to the final version being slightly smaller or did he misspeak?

@webrunner5 If it can't be done with the CST plugin in Resolve then maybe I'll try to make one for you for free ?

1 hour ago, webrunner5 said:

Sorry to ruin your day, but it does! It is WAY better.

You mean magnetic tape compared to CD audio? Scientifically, you can't hear the difference.
 

1 hour ago, Kieran said:

The image making business is reliant on gut reaction.

No it's not. The film making business is about careful planning and polish as is the case with making food. Film and food consumption are about gut reactions... the second more literally than the first.  

11 minutes ago, Savannah Miller said:

That logic is wrong.  It's more like you expected a synth but you are getting a synth with more controls.  You can still make the familiar sounds of the old synth but it's a better starting place if you don't want a specifically defined "sound."

Beautifully put!
 

4 minutes ago, webrunner5 said:

Nah I don't think it will ever be the same. It is a whole new sensor from a different manufacturer. It is sort of like the CCD  sensor versus  CMOS thing.  I don't care what anyone says CCD had better colors, but sucked ass on low light. Sure it might get close but it has the "new" look to it, which I am not to fond of, but for what most people will use it for, it is probably the right direction for BM. And if you are going to try and make money using it that look is "in" now, and it is what younger people take for granted.  They want sharp, detailed stuff that pops.

Even the perspective from s16 to m4/3 is different, so that has a role in the overall look.

This kind of sounds like when audiophiles claim that magnetic tape sounds better than CDs and that they can hear the difference.

5 minutes ago, Savannah Miller said:

I think the color is just more accurate with the new Pocket 4K. 

This is true. One time I was filming something with my original Pocket using an RGB LED strip. I set the color to a purple color (swinging a little closer to magenta), yet when I looked back at the footage, the Pocket rendered it as a deep blue. 

2 minutes ago, John Brawley said:

I think we're just nostalgic.

When the Ursa Mini 4.6K first started shipping there were many many threads that were EXACTLY the same as some of the complaints on here....  Users complaining that the UM4.6K didn't have the same mojo / look / feel as the 4K sensor which at that point was in the Production camera, the Ursa and the Ursa mini 4K.

This is a new sensor.  

It has the same chef's in the kitchen, working with new ingredients.

Spend some time with the images, look at the RAWS when they're available and learn to get the most from it.  THEN come back and post about what you like or don't like.  But grading from a downloaded 264 and then writing it off as being inferior is a bit premature and simplistic.

JB

 

I love this man lol

Just now, mercer said:

Idk, so far from what I've seen, I prefer the S16mm look from the older sensor. The new camera has a more modern, video look to it (it looks good and crisp and clean) but the OG Pocket/Micro had a different aesthetic that I prefer.

Maybe wait until this camera comes out and they're actually juxtaposed. You may even be able to use the CST plugin to make Pocket 4K look like original Pocket footage and then you just grade from there.

BMD isn''t going to release anything that shoots less than 4K now and Fairchild doesn't make any 4K S16 or 4/3 sensors.

9 minutes ago, mercer said:

So... are there any plans to release a BMPCCii or BMMCCii with a more similar sensor to the original?

Why would they do that?