Danilo Del Tufo

2 hours ago, mercer said:

I actually like the look of the RawLite footage very much, although it is a little too saturated for my tastes. I think the biggest “issue” with this test is the randomness of it. It seems you are really trying to work out the kinks of using a new cinema camera. So, I’m unsure if using an event like this is the best time and place to sort it out?

If I were you, I’d find the most peaceful, beautiful place in your town. When the light is perfect, go there, with your tripod and shoot no more than 3-5 minutes of footage... edit that down to a 1-2 minute video and correct and grade the footage.

I also think that just using Lumetri for your tests may yield better results. Keep the correction/grade as simple as possible.

Also, are you shooting cLog? Because a simple cLog to Rec709 LUT should give you a great starting point and then just a light contrast and saturation adjustment will get you the rest of the way there. And... doesn’t the C200 have built in ND filters?

Thanks for the compliments about my short video. I've tried a lot of combination in colors and LUTs, having hard time to determinate which was better. At the end I've tweaked with MB and Lumetri, using also HDR option in Premiere to have more room to color. What annoys me about this camera is the weight and it's very difficult to have stabilized shot handled. I've planned to use just the tripod for a short movie that I've wrote some months ago, but I still need to finish the storyboard and buy (next months) other necessary things. If I have some time I will try to shoot some other locations, following your advices, this video was very improvised without any plans. The C200 has Nd filters, but I've read that they can block the dynamic range of the camera, someone told me that with 6 ND filters I will have just the latitude of 11 stops, with that Sunlight I should try to combine ND filters and small aperture. Still I can't have all this very clear in my mind, when I shot into this improvised way. I need to make more tests before I will be satisfied.

1 hour ago, webrunner5 said:

Too saturated and too sharp yet for my liking. It does not even look like Canon footage. You are trying Too hard I think. You are just going to have to shoot, shoot, shoot, and edit, edit, edit to get it to Your liking. I guess maybe we are trying to hard to get it to OUR liking LoL!

Thanks for your advices, I've the camera just recently and still having issues with Cfast card: this test was made to see if the 248GB Cfast card works instead of my 512GB that quite often is not recognized in camera, and I must return the Cfast card to original dealer soon. This test was totally improvised without know the location, so it was very hard with people asking if they will be in tv soon and something more like that. Don't worry about to be hard on me, I'm testing the camera to make better things but it's necessary a lot of time to accomplish this task.

Thanks again for your support, very appreciated. :-)

2 hours ago, zerocool22 said:

Some tips. 
- Use some kind of stabilisation, glidecam, ronin.
- Or use a tripod (I really dont like the handheld look)
- I get thrown off by the handheld shots, but it looks like this clip did not pay much attention to composition. Your other clip with the available light is much better. This clip is very crowded and the location does not seem that nice. And you are using a high fstop,  on this kinda situations you want to guide the eye of the viewer so a smaller fstop would help here. If you have amazing locations and good compositions you can use more high Fstops. So good locations will always help out a ton. Even a Alexa will look crappy under the wrong conditions.

Thanks for suggestions and advices, very appreciated. The event was not organized, so I've tried to shot the best I can do. Lens aperture was very close because the sunlight was very strong, and I din't use any ND filters to make a different test from previous ones. I've planned to buy also a tiny little camera and use a gimbal, but I don't wanna buy a gimbal for C200 because it's too difficult to use with this large camera. Hope to make new test more enjoyable than this one, but they will probably still shaky and handled. I've just a tripod but there was no chance to use in similar context, I will use it for my future shorts with screenplay, not improvised ones. Thanks again, and have a nice day! :-)

Hello there! This is my new test with C200. It's handled without any tripod so it's a bit shaky, I've made Color Correction in Adobe Premiere CC 2018 with Magic Bullet and some tweaks in lumetri, with HDR on - shot in Rawlight. Please let me know what do you think about it, in particular in color correction that I've made. Just remember it's just my fourth test in Rawlight and I'm still trying to figure out what to do to make better images. If you have suggestions, tricks etc, let me know them in comments below. Thanks! :-)

1 hour ago, cantsin said:

I agree that the GH5 is a more suitable camera for run-and-gun shooting, particularly because of IBIS, EVF, flip-/tilt screen, battery life and the option to record in more densely compressed codecs/smaller file sizes.

However: The Pocket has tap-to-focus, can format cards in camera, and you can record Rec709 ProRes video that requires no grading at all and has beautiful colors out-of-the-box. (Actually, the old Pocket can format in-camera and record great Rec709 ProRes as well.) 

I'm not sure that Pocket has tap-to-focus, what I've understood is that it has just a square at the center of the image pressing the autofocus button.

New LUT by a friend of mine. Better skin tones from my previous attempt - Canon C200 - codec Rawlight - lens canon 50mm 1.4 - ISO 800 - ND 6

Picture from my previous attempt:

My previous attempt : 

7 hours ago, Federico Res said:

I have a Mega account  Ok I will upload the footage this evening as I come back from work

How do you capture the footage, I miss something about it.

13 hours ago, mercer said:

Keep at it Danilo, maybe write a one minute short film to propel your tests. When I got my 5D3 and started shooting ML Raw on it, I jumped into a short and I was forced to not only learn the ins and outs of the camera but also to think more about composition and light. In the end, I think it really helped. Good luck and please keep posting your progress... there aren’t many C200 owners on this site.

Thanks for support and suggestions. I need to wait some months to buy other necessary things to make a more properly shoot. As I've stated before, I'm coming from an HPX170, an old Panasonic camera, that was more easy to use. Actually I'm finishing the drawings necessary for a storyboard for a short movie that I've wrote, the project is still a long term in time needed to accomplish, I think for September I will have all the things needed. Thanks again!

6 hours ago, Gregormannschaft said:

Nice. Maybe add a little more sharpening?

Sorry for that, this was my third test with Rawlight, colors look more nice than my previous tests. I've used Magic Bullet looks and it added some sharpening, but I believe it still looks natural. Believe me, without this MB preset it looked more ugly, it was necessary I think. Did you see my first and second tests too, they are overexposed than this one.

1 minute ago, mercer said:

You’re not paying for it, it comes free with the price of the camera.

If i've understood correctly, the software costs about 300$, so the camera costs less 300$.

Just now, anonim said:

Uh, I hope this in not representative footage for c200? I don't know about Canon evolution, but this image has no anything similar with wonderful examples that posted, say, @mercer?

It's very difficult to achieve good quality with C200, it's not a camera where you point and shoot. It requires a lot of knowledge about it, my previous camera was an old Panasonic HPX170 so I need to understand more deeply how to achieve good footage.

11 minutes ago, jonpais said:

Maybe it would be best to post your footage in the C200 thread or in the Shooting thread. This happens to be the GH5s Sample Footage thread. Thank you.

Yes, I've already posted the footage into C200 thread, well I think it's interesting comparing various cameras in the market! :-)

This footage coming from GH5s, I've found today and I think it's good example from the camera:

1 minute ago, jonpais said:

That footage you just posted looks seriously oversharpened, harsh, contrasty and jittery. I suppose it would be difficult to achieve those results with the GH5, so I think you made the right choice.

Thanks for reply. I was evaluating for a lot of time, what camera should be better. This footage looks over sharpened because I've used Magic Bullet Looks, and it added a bit of sharpening in post. Another problem is that the Magic Bullet suite cause an error in Premiere CC2018, so the software will show a system error.

This is the second test that I've made, but it's overexposed:

Unfortunately no, I was interested about GH5, but the C200 seems a lot better so I've bought it. The problem with C200 is the weight, very difficult to use handled.

Now I'm interested in the upcoming Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K.

7 minutes ago, Emanuel said:

No, I did not : ) Any link to?

This is my third TEST with EOS C200 in RAWlight: 

Emanuel, once I was maybe...thanks :-)

Did you see any test that I've made with my C200? I still have compatibility problems with Angelbird 512GB Cfast Card, quite often the camera doesn't recognize the card. I'm in contact with the original dealer, to change it. Next months when I will have all the stuff that I need to buy, and finished the storyboard, I will shot something.

I dunno if it was already posted, but this one shot with GH5s is very interesting:

EOS C200: Third Test - Available Light - codec Rawlight - lens canon 50mm 1.4 - ISO 800 - ND 6.

I was considering the Zhiyun-Tech Crane 2 for BMPCC4K, in particular for the Follow Focus mode. This mode requires an usb cable from the Zhiyun to the camera, what do you think about it? It will be compatible with the focus of BMPCC4K?