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  1. Ok, first comment: what the hell is "3-axis tiltable LCD"

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    Comment #2: Since they don't have the camera ready yet, I think they left a lot of things purposefully ambiguous. Which is a good poker-game strategy.

    No talk about video codecs, no details about the AF system, nothing about fps in photo mode, no mention of 6K and/or anamorphic, etc. My guess is that they have a lot in the pipeline and they play the waiting game to see what Sony will introduce, since it's the only player not having shown their cards yet.

    Oh, and speaking of Sony, my guess is that the sensors are Sony, with 99% certainty. 

     

  2. 13 minutes ago, seattledv said:

    If it’s a Sony sensor then why wasn’t the rumored Sony a7000 released BEFORE the XT-3 so as to upstage Fuji’s effort?

    This is not how it works. Nikon D800 had the 36mp base sensor before the first gen. a7R. The 24mp APS-C sensor was also used in the D7100 and Pentax K-3 before the a6000. Sensors in the D5 and D500 are proven to be manufactured by Sony too (and never used in any sort of Sony cameras). 

    We are always talking about the "base" chip, not the actual (brand) implementation. Finally, this could be a Sony-manufactured, Fuji-spec sensor, like the one in the D850, though I doubt it. 

     

  3. 27 minutes ago, Thpriest said:

    Bummer. Anyway, if the colours and 4k have a similar look and feel (FF vs m43/Speedboster besides) then it still could work as a properly integrated system.

    There is a rumor (or is it confirmed already? I don't remember) about a new firmware update coming up for GH5(s)/G9. Could it make color science more consistent among cameras? Can it be done with firmware only or is it too much sensor-specific? 

    If Panasonic gives us an updated color science which is more or less the same in their whole line of cameras, they will dominate everything. This and high-performance video AF is their only relative weaknesses against the competition. 

  4. 19 minutes ago, Thpriest said:

    This camera sounds pretty interesting. What would be great is if the new lens system could be adapted to the m43 line through a Panasonic speedbooster with and integrated ND(no idea if that's possible).

    Unfortunately, not. The L-mount is 19mm flange distance, while m43 is 19.25mm. The option for a dummy "ring" adapter is certainly feasible, but I'm not optimistic that electronics could be fitted for AF and EXIF. OTOH you never know. 

    Extra optical elements or ND integration are out of the question though. What I hope for is an electronic ND filter in the camera (a physical one would again be very hard to implement). 

  5. 12 minutes ago, Mmmbeats said:

    I'm guessing then there are no implications for video?  (of pixel-shift)

    Can't see how it can be used for video. It's the same mechanism that does IBIS, by the way

    3 minutes ago, KnightsFan said:

    I wonder if Panasonic will use a <1mm sensor stack like Leica does? If so, some lenses designed for film might have slightly better performance here than on the new Sony/Canon/Nikon.

    I think the big question for all is whether this will be a Sony manufactured sensor or Panasonic will go for a Samsung or Towerjazz design. I find the non-Sony option very exciting. 

  6. 1 hour ago, Mattias Burling said:

    This just keeps looking better and better. Of all the cameras released this year this is definitely the one Im most curious about.
    I didn't care much about the hype of the others, they all seem like great cameras but expected, just upgrades of already available stuff. This feels like something new. Im getting a bit of the same feeling like when the BMCC was announced. It feels fresh.

    Exactly. I'm on the same boat, and let's not forget Panasonic in general always had a tradition for innovation and very few weaknesses with their cameras. E.g. apart from the sensor limitations (where applicable) and video AF (for the most part, although improved), the GH5/G9 are almost perfect hybrid cameras IMHO. 

     

    1 hour ago, Mattias Burling said:

    Takes a series of images and moves the sensor using the ibis in-between. Then the camera stitches them together. Available on many cameras from various brands. The subject needs to be still like architecture or a landscape. Great for product photography.

    It can do much more: as Hasselblad does, it can also get true color information for each pixel (three different positions) and still produce a "base" resolution image with much improved (accurate) color. 

  7. 2 hours ago, jonpais said:

    I’ve had the exact contrary impression - most Sony shooters I know of prefer shooting with native Sony/Zeiss glass over Sigma. And not one I know of has found Sony lenses inadequate. Quite the opposite in fact. Their 24-105mm f/4, 16-35mm f/2.8, 35mm f/1.4, 50mm f/1.4, 55mm f/1.8, 85mm f/1.4 and 400mm f/2.8 have all received wide acclaim - and I’ve no doubt the soon-to-be-released 24mm f/1.4 will too. Really, I find the whole notion of not purchasing the a7 III if Sigma lenses didn’t exist preposterous.

    Perhaps I could clarify this: users think that either the cheaper Sony lenses are not "good enough" (at least in regards to value/cost) OR they are fantastically good but very expensive (the G-master line and some other Sony branded lenses). 

    Not everyone has 10K+ to spend upfront for lenses when adopting a new system, so having a reasonably priced, high performance option is always welcome. Furthermore, many Canonikon users already used to use and love Sigma ART lenses on their DSLRs; in fact most Canon users at least initially use their EF Sigma glass adapted on their Sonys.  

  8. 15 minutes ago, nathlas said:

    Sigma never received  engineering info from Canon and Nikon for their mounts as they did last year from Sony.

     

    They always had to reverse engineer Canikon Mounts to copy their protocols. They will not have an issue again.

    They are probably completely capable of reverse engineering the Z/R mounts. 

    But, plot twist: suppose terms of the mutual Pana/Sigma/Leica agreement is that Sigma can do whatever they want in-house, but not release any lenses for the Canonikon mounts until 2020. ?

  9. 2 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

    Be interesting to see if the relationship actually allows Sigma to begin selling their SL line-up ahead of the camera launch as they would have a very captive audience immediately with Leica owners.

    Including the hypothetical person who in a moment of madness bought a used SL last weekend.

    I, erm, sorry, he would be all over them.

    Very true. Sigma is already doing excellent with the FE-mount lenses where it has boxed the market for high-performance yet affordable glass. I had many pros tell me that they'd never consider buying the Sony a7iii for example,  if Sigma wasn't involved; Sony/Zeiss branded lenses are either not adequate enough, in their view, or extortionately expensive.  

    So, no need for Sigma to bust their balls over the Z and R mounts, and suddenly Nikon and Canon mirrorless systems find themselves in the position that Fuji was 5+ years ago: in need to hurry up completing their lens lineup by themselves, without third party support. You can't rely on adapters forever. 

    And buy the way, congrats on the SL! In my view it's perhaps the best ever example of industrial design in the Photographic Industry. ?

  10. 56 minutes ago, Stab said:

    Is there anyone here with the GH5 / GH4 that shoots with the Sigma 18-35 on a (Canon) Speedbooster and can tell me something about the autofocus when taking stills?

    Is it accurate? And is which mode is it working the best? Would I be able to trust it for shooting stills?

    I shoot with the Nikon version of this setup now, thinking I would never need to shoot stills, but since recently I get asked a lot to shoot stills. And I love this lens / combo.

    Anyone who has tested it or could test it for me? Thanks!

    This is difficult to answer without knowing about the application. What do you want to shoot? Sports have entirely different requirements to portraits or travel photography. 

    I use the Viltrox+Sigma (EOS mount) setup. First time I tried it for stills, it reminded me of the time I was using the EM1mk1 with the Viltrox FT to m43 adapter and Olympus 14-54mm f2.8-3.5 mk2. Quite snappy but not spectacularly fast. I'd say at the same level as some older native m43 lenses. If I use the setup for stills it will be for static subjects, so, again, depends on your application. 

     

  11. 1 hour ago, amanieux said:

    why do you say the sensor has to be a 3:2 ratio, most displays are 16:9, this 3:2 is coming from film era and no longer makes any sense as people are no longer printing photos on paper, new sensors should be 16:9

    3:2 was never a good option for print; you either had to crop or lose paper real estate. 4:3 is much more efficient and is the same ratio as with 645 medium format cameras. 

    The most versatile option for a sensor would perhaps be 4:3 multiaspect (if stills+video is the goal)

  12. I guess we'll know soon enough if the X-T3 sensor is a Samsung produced one. If the forthcoming Sony a7000 (or whatever they call it) has the same mp count and features, it is a Sony sensor (or based upon one). As it happened so many times in the past. 

    I'm personally very much in favor of competition in this arena and Samsung certainly has some highly impressive technology. Let's wait and see. 

  13. 49 minutes ago, Mattias Burling said:

    Yeah they can be "expensive", but supply and demand I guess.

    One thing that I love with my Viltrox EF-MFT besides it being much cheaper and sharper than Metabones (on one stop closed and forward) is that its super easy to adjust infinity/back focus. No tools required.

    Bang for buck its the best speedbooster I've had. So fingers crossed on a Fuji version.

    I totally agree on the Viltrox. In fact I think this company is going places; I remember using their Four Thirds to m43 AF adapter a few years ago, and it was splendid esp. for the price (EM1mk1 + 14-54mm Oly lens). Now they have several adapters and even some ridiculously great LED lights. We had the L132  for a wedding Saturday, and I was blown away by the quality and performance for a little more than 25 euros (!!!). 

    Not to hijack the thread: back to the XT3. My feeling is that this camera will be another good "excuse" for extensive adapted lens use for video. The XH1, IMHO, was a great attempt but not really there, due to lack of the proper tech at release time. The XT3 almost ticks all the boxes, and I can't wait for Fujifilm Greece guys to return from Photokina so they can provide me one for extensive testing. I have a short dance/performance film coming up and my plan is to shoot it exclusively on the XT3, in order to put it through its paces. It's a calculated risk but I'm confident enough in Fujifilm IQ and video-specific features to try it. Will report. 

     

  14. 20 minutes ago, Mattias Burling said:

    Ive reviewed several Kipon adapters including speedboosters and in my experience they are very good. I see no problem using them instead of Metabones.
    With that said, we all have different standards and levels of pixel peeping so one has to try to be sure. But for me, my images and videos they are more than good enough. But I have no experience with any of their AF options. But I will be getting it to test it out.

    Yes its available on ebay (2-3 weeks delivery).

    Thank you. I'm not into pixel peeping either and never had an issue even with the cheapest focal reducers for photos (much less for video). 

    Unfortunately I see the Kipon AF focal reducer for Fuji comes at Metabones level prices... Which is curious since the similar Sony version is at half price, hmmm.... 

    Looking forward for your test reviews! 

  15. 6 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

    Yea, it is stunning. I do alot of wedding stuff and the 90mm shots always get the best reaction (and also allow me to go unnoticed in the distance). I was toying with the idea of moving to the 80mm/f2.8 for the OIS, but the XH1 has fixed that issue.

    As an X-Photographer I'm fortunate enough to have either owned or extensively tested every Fujifilm camera and lens. It is almost universally recognized that the 16mm, 90mm and 80mm are the sharpest and optically best of the Fujinons. They are also the fastest in terms of AF. On the other hand, perhaps other Fuji lenses offer more "character". For mainstream pro work (e.g. weddings) you can't go wrong with any of those three. 

    1 minute ago, Mattias Burling said:

    Kipon seems to be working on it.

     

    Great! I have been using, testing and writing reviews on my blog about various focal reducers during the last 4 years or so and never had the chance to test a Kipon; I was hearing rather mediocre reports of them though. 

    Funny thing is, just today I'm getting delivery of a EF to Sony Kipon speedbooster, that I bought for my girlfriend's Sony! Which means I'll finally have the chance to evaluate optical performance and build. If the manage to make an optically efficient and AF capable EOS to Fuji speedbooster, then I'm sold. Chances are 50/50 right of getting the XT3 as my next hybrid Fuji camera and the ability to use adapted lenses with AF and boosting would be excellent news. 

    Mattias is this on the market yet? Link? 

  16. 1 minute ago, Mattias Burling said:

    Ahh, sorry about that. I read to quickly. Either way, EF with AF is what Im after first and foremost. For a speedbooster effect one has to resort to manual glass. Which for video isn't a real issue for me.

    Thanks. I also use the m43 booster version all the time and I'm very happy with the results. If the Fuji version offers the same level of AF performance, I'm sold. 

    Being able to use the Sigma 18-35 with the Fujis can justify buying this adapter by itself. I will even be using it on the X-Pro2 for photos. By the end of the month I will have the XT3 for testing/review and it would be ideal to have the Viltrox by then too. So I'll be reading your report with great interest! 

  17. 36 minutes ago, Mattias Burling said:

    I just ordered the Viltrox EF to Fuji Speedbooster and a X-H1. So in two days I can provide additional info on the adapters performance. There already are a nice test video, posted earlier in the thread, but I haven't found any from the "real world".
     

    Speedbooster? Is there such a thing? Because I was under the impression that only an AF (non-boosted) version was available:

    http://www.viltrox.com/en/index.php?m=index&amp;a=show&amp;cid=145&amp;id=220

    This was the adapter featured in the previous test video.

    If you have a link to the Viltrox adapter you mention, I would be very interested 

     

     

  18. 51 minutes ago, Mmmbeats said:

    Some low-level rumours out and about (not usually that reliable, but worth discussing I guess).  Certainly enticing if anywhere near accurate:

    https://www.43rumors.com/ft2-confirmed-and-unconfirmed-details-of-panasonic-ff-camera/

    Hope they don't shoot themselves in the head by omitting IBIS. That is, if this camera is going to compete with high level Sony and Nikon mirrorless (future a7Siii and Z7) at the same or similar price point.  

    ND is great news if confirmed, as well as "official" adapters.  

    Everything in this list is speculative, TBH, almost all can be "guessed" without any "source" at all. 

  19. 4 hours ago, webrunner5 said:

    But yes you are right they pretty much just cut 35mm Camera Film stock in half, added an audio track, and well called it... Movie Film!

    In actual fact, the exact opposite is what happened: Oscar Barnack  transported the cinema 35mm film horizontally thus allowing for about twice the area and creating the first "35mm" photographic camera. 

  20. 15 minutes ago, EspenB said:

    Lets discuss the price level. This videocentric FF monster will retail for 4000 USD or more.

    Then there is the new lenses.

    This is about Sony a9 price range, isn't it? I'd be very glad if this was true... my guess is more than that. 

    OTOH we don't really know it's only one camera, do we? The announcement may well be for a new system and a logical guess would be that they'd try to offer a hi/lo "range" of at least two cameras. Perhaps a somewhat "stripped down" version between 2 and 3K and a high-end 4-5K version. There was also mention about a subscription type scheme and add-on features similar to V-LOG for the GH5. 

    Too much speculation, too little information at the moment... 

  21. 27 minutes ago, webrunner5 said:

    I tend to think it might have this 8K Organic sensor in it .Co Developed by Panasonic and Fuji. Which if it it does I don't see how this thing can be cheap unless it cost 10 cents to make this sensor LoL.

    And TowerJazz also owns 51% of TowerJazz Panasonic Semiconductor Co. (TPSCo) ,an enterprise with Panasonic Corporation.

    https://***URL removed***/news/1440456457/panasonic-unveils-industry-first-8k-organic-image-sensor-with-global-shutter

     

    This could be a possible development. AFAIK though, Fujifilm is no longer involved in the project (?) 

    I always thought that they would initially make a smaller "technology demonstration" sensor, but who knows? We are hearing about this tech for the last 5-6 years, perhaps it's mature enough to take such a risk. 

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