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I must be crazy but I don't see any mention of 24 or 25 in the chart? How do we know that the only FF sensor mode that doesn't overheat is the pixel binned mode? I can't read that anywhere either. They sure make it difficult to find the info.

where does it say this? and what are the times for the overheating? Same as for 30p?

Does it overheat in 24/25p over-sampled mode? In other words, are there thermal limits on all over-sampled modes up to 30p?

I mean the fact is no other mirrorless camera gives you full frame 8k, 4k 120p, 60p, or 8k oversampled 30p. The mere fact that you can use these settings is a great accomplishment, cause you can't use them with any other mirrorless. I'd rather have then as an option than not have them at all. I can shoot all day in standard 4k 30p mode and mix it in with some hfr modes if I want. To all those saying, ye but it's not worth the price...well the market will decide what it is worth. Again you don't get any of these options in any other mirrorless. 8 stops, dual pixel, uncropped 4k, flippy screen, 10 bit internal, etc etc. The constant moaning and complaining is unnecessary. Just compare this to the way the xt4 was treated. Apparently that camera is perfect despite having crap ibis where you can't pan and unreliable autofocus (people had to turn to YouTube and Philip bloom for that info). So it overheats in certain modes. Don't worry, you will be fine, it's not the end of the world.

This is a quote for b&h representative in their q&a Nonspecific but some details. Maybe they were shooting nonHQ 4k, which I guess you can use mixed with the higher frame rates.

Nothing wrong with bmpcc. The IQ and color shits all over these Japanese cameras. If you are doing narrative there is nothing better for the price. That's why they sold a ton of them and there is such a great filmmaking community behind them where the camera is celebrated even though it has its foibles because people find creative ways of overcoming the short comings. People are just grateful that they have a cinema camera for next to nothing and can do their art. Here we complain about overheating 8k raw which we all knew would happen.

Have you tested on 10 bit footage?

Your xt3 was 4:2:0. The difference between all-i and ipb is a spec sheet analysis in most cases.

Thats not cheaper than the r6. The r6 has much better stills capabilities, better and more varied native lens options, full frame 60p...oh and fantastic autofocus. Clog has great color and plenty of DR if you know what you are doing. There is a reason panasonic cameras aren't selling well. s1h is a niche product and certainly not a hybrid shooter. The sigma fp doesnt even have internal log and requires an external recorder just to get a useable recording option. They didn't fully think that one through.

You really have issues reading, don't you? I said that the Sony won't beat it for the PRICE. No way the A7sIII is in the range of $2,500.00. It also won't beat it in terms of IBIS performance. I repeat the xt4 example where Andrew was gushing over that camera despite the crap ibis and autofocus. Yet here we are with a far more capable camera in the r6 and - crickets. Instead everyone is talking about overheating on a camera that people shouldn't get and is irrelevant for most.

Nice reading comprehension buddy lol. I clearly said the r6. I could care less about the r5. People that want to bash the r5 just have an axe to grind like you. The r6 is everything we have been asking for and beats every camera out there and yet crickets. Destroys the xt4 in nearly every respect and I remember what kind of audience that camera got on this site lol. You're a joker mate.

yeah real intelligent.

The REAL story is that the r6 is the camera to get. That alone beats the s1h for the PRICE. 10 bit interal, 60p, Log, ibis and DPAF. End of story. This overheating issue is a distraction as the people who are spending that much money on an R5 will know what they are getting into. If you are shooting 8k raw or 4k 120p for interviews, god help you. The r5 was never going to be the camera for you. But if you are just shooting clips and stock footage travelling it will be fine. You can wait for the Sony but it will not beat the r6 on PRICE, nor will it touch the r6 in the IBIS department - which judging by the footage is immense and Olympus level. But I get that it is very easy to poo poo canon. Neumann is right, they should be celebrated for what we have been given.

you dont even get that on their cinema cameras.

Based on what?

Can someone explain these lenses to me lol.

I am getting this in for testing shortly - will let everyone know how it goes.

not if you have a sony...

Well said Andrew. Brilliant review. I so hope everyone gets behind Sigma on this product and their vision. Andrew, I think a review on youtube would really help as there is a current dearth of good reviews out there. Camera hasn't been hyped at all on youtube (some might say that is a blessing).

Kai isn't a real reviewer. It's all fluff. This guy actually is the best for what he is, which is discussing vlog equipment. He never purports to be anything more. But the crossover comes if you are interested in a cameras ability to autofocus and stabilise. He has the best reviews in that regard with the most comparisons. Things like autofocus and ibis need a long format review, multiple reviews in fact, to discuss and show the cameras abilities. No one else takes the time to do that or show that.

He reviewed the zv1. That's all you need to know.

The state of the industry is shocking. The shilling is flagrant and constant. Sony is really bad at it with all the cretins they enlist on YouTube. It's become so bad that the best, and most unbiased, reviews come from a meme channel started as a joke about finding the perfect camera. He actually gives in-depth tests and comparisons. Just look at the 1dx and the rolling shutter issue and how that was ignored. And some companies like Fuji get a pass on poor autofocus and ibis. Just does not look good and people should be made aware of it.

It's a nice update but most of the criticism still stands. The camera has so much potential because of its size. Putting a monitor on defeats the purpose. So not being able to do Log seems like a missed opportunity to me, along with the lack of internal codec. I do hope they come out with a mark II.

Contrast this attitude with smaller Chinese companies like z-cam who have a ceo answering questions on Facebook and improving their cameras based on user suggestions. No usb-c just goes to show how slow and outdated some of these Japanese companies are.

Panasonic could see the writing on the wall with Olympus. They knew they couldn't sustain MFT by themselves and have transitioned to FF.