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  1. Sorry, I forgot to explicitly say I don't mean anything to do with lens OIS whatsoever. Just IBIS - just in-body. And I don't buy into the rated X.X Stops specs stuff since that just doesn't tell much of a tale at all for video, as I discovered with my XT4, it certainly has a bunch of "Stops of stabilisation", but their quantised and robotic way of moving the sensor ruins many of my video shots. So I'm still sort of wondering - is the S5 better than the S1/H in this regard and were those any better than the GH5?
  2. When people compare the IBIS in this to the S1/S1h, how does that compare again to the GH5? Were the S1 models a little worse at IBIS? I know people tend to say it's just never as easy with larger sensors. Is the IBIS in this up to par? Since it sounds like the AF may actually compete with Fujis disappointing XT4 autofocus, I'm really wondering if I should regret having switched from Panasonic now. (I was a GH5 guy). The XT4 is great but the failed IBIS and overheating/limits feel a bit more of a bummer to me now compared to a similar tier FF Panasonic camera.
  3. dgvro

    Fuji X-T4

    I think I did see in Metabones compatibility lists that certain zoom (non OIS) lenses from CANON do allow you keep the Xt4 IBIS active. From what I could tell though they seemed to be saying no dice when it comes to similar from Tamron, Tokina etc. I generally can't ever afford the Canon branded 'equivalent' of my EF lenses. Tamron 28-75 and Tokina 11-16 f/2.8s were meant to be my poor man's workhorses. I'll have to buy an adapter from someplace that allows no hassle return and see for myself what really works or not. As a video shooter I'm suddenly I'm kind of remorseful now that the Pana S5 has been announced at a sort of similar price point. Since I'm more of an IBIS zealot than an autofocus guy, it would have been awesome to have the full frame sensor for low light, similar (or better?) dynamic range, top notch IBIS, and apparently less overheating too. Trying to think of where the XT4 really would even have it beat... Size/weight, I suppose. "Eterna"? ...I can workaround with other color profiles all day, enjoy it even.
  4. dgvro

    Fuji X-T4

    As far as I know (it's barely documented clearly yet by anyone, including the makers of the adapters - they list some lens general compabilities but say very little about IBIS with each), they mostly turn your XT4 back into an XT3 in terms of IBIS, i.e. they deactivate it with tons of lenses. I get that they've decided/settled for allowing OIS lenses to just replace the camera IBIS, fair enough, I can and do avoid OIS lenses anyway. But for zoom lenses than don't have their own OIS, I really would have thought the adaptor could still allow you use in camera IBIS. I suppose they have some difficulty around communicating the zoom focal length to the camera, which the IBIS must be calculated off. BUT this was no problem on my GH5 with zoom lenses on a Viltrox/Metabones adapter. There's probably just something really awkward about how Fuji handles IBIS focal length calculation. Then there's the fact that I can still notice WILDLY different type of IBIS performance between two identical focal length lenses where one is native Fuji and one is a manual shoot-without-lens adapted mount... IBIS in this camera has been a real disappointment, when you put all of it together. Likewise the AF I suppose, though that was never a huge hangup for me. But IBIS was my whole reason for buying an XT4. Sucks.
  5. dgvro

    Fuji X-T4

    I wanted to make a separate thread to ask about this but maybe I shouldn't: Those of you who have used electronic adaptors to mount other lenses on the XT4 - which one(s) are best for still getting IBIS in the camera body to always function while using the adapter? Not DIS, not lens OIS, not IS Boost - I mean actual on-sensor IBIS. I'm probably talking about EF->Fuji adapters here for the most part but sort of interested in whatever's out there too I guess. It sounds like with nearly all the Fringer/Viltrox/Kipon/Metabones electronic adapters, you're pretty much getting an "all bets are off" with regard to whether IBIS will function in the camera when using the adapter, depending on the lens. I DON'T use and don't want to use any lenses that have their own OIS - and I know that OIS lenses force you to have the lens OIS supercede and deactivate the Fuji IBIS when using these adapters. But let's say just a regular electronic zoom EF lens like my Tamron 28-75 or Tokina 11-16, neither of which have lens OIS, apparently these will also prevent me from being able to use XT4's IBIS when on all of these adaptors? Generally it seems like: Lenses with OIS of their own - Fuji IBIS unavailable UNstabilised Zoom lenses - Fuji IBIS is still defeated Unstabilised fixed primes - Fuji IBIS usually may still work Stabilised primes (rare, I can't even think of any) - Presumably still defeat Fuji IBIS It's a real shame if so. If it's really only like that I will probably be going with some kind of fully manual dumb focal reducer (like a Zhongyi Lensturbo ii), keeping full use of IBIS (constantly setting focal mount length manually in the menu) and using other workarounds for if/when I want to change aperture.
  6. dgvro

    Fuji X-T4

    yeah. Sort of. You can get a x1.29 crop any time you want at the touch of a (programmed) button. When shooting 4k50/60p you're forced to a x1.19 crop at a minimum anyway. When shooting slowmotion 1080 you're forced to a x1.29 crop anyway When shooting with Digital Image Stabilisation (DIS) on, you're forced to x1.11 crop anyway. (DIS can't be used during slowmo btw) The crops don't stack, of course. Technically ANY time you shoot 4k you can crop x2 into that in post for a decent 1080p too, of course.
  7. Ironically, it might be unauthorised, unofficial 'fixing' of the overheating that does actually spur Canon into a proper recall. They might then appease people with a slightly less crippled version of the camera. Just enough for there to not be as much appetite to hack the thing.
  8. I guess you may be right. It's a funny place, when you consider in the same breadth the thing of how unforgiving their work culture is to the individual. That, and all the japanese rules MMA fights I used to see where you can kick people on the ground in the head
  9. I feel like this may all be utter fallacy and imagined, sorry. Many successful or innovative leaders in their respective field do not necessarily hold a "piece of pie" mentality when it comes to revenue/fanbase/etc. More often the opposite, they're looking beyond the slices. Also, maybe neither of us are experts in Japanese culture, but it seems about as likely to me that in so far as these fairly faceless companies even COULD even be neatly personified with those kind of nearly-sentimental characteristics (I think they're much more like machinery than that, myself), they would be just as inclined to NOT ever pull their punches vs one another out of respect or based on their principles or whatever. Success is still success (the pie is still the pie)... dictators were no less pridefully nationalist for their belief that a unified singular leadership or monopoly on power was the best way.
  10. while reading this inspired monologue I'm feeling like R5 must stand for Ror5chach and a Canon Doomsday crippleclock is ticking down to 2 minutes to 12 in a VIP DefCon installation somewhere. while we all wait for a big, blue, all-powerful, balls-out Dr Samsung to finally bring his godlike presence back from Mars to save the camera world.
  11. dgvro

    Fuji X-T4

    Maybe this has been answered already, but: if you're standing still, the XT4 is fantastic. IBIS is very usable in that type of shot. Even for very simple, controlled pans and tilts, it's good too. Just anything more complicated than that (strafing the camera around, elevating it up or down, panning while doing any other movement simultaneous) it struggles.
  12. dgvro

    Fuji X-T4

    I've got a Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 I cherish and I can't wait to try on something like Metabones/Viltrox on the XT4, right now I just can't justify spending another $200 (let alone metabones' 600, not sure if there's a future at all where I will spend that) for the immediate timebeing especially when my day-to-day this year is just carrying the XT4 with a pancake on it. But I'll certainly be posting about the results when I finally get one of these adapters. I have a Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 as well that I hope can actually work really well for AF at such a super wide FOV. When 1.19 or 1.29 crop is active I can probably even zoom it all the way back out to 11mm on a speedbooster and get full FoV back, no vignette. I think the fact that I can (i.e. do) already easily also throw my EF lenses on a straight dumb $20 EF adaptor to get their full length probably means I get more mileage out of going focal reducer route rather than the Fringer.
  13. dgvro

    Fuji X-T4

    so it tracks subject moving over a gradual (presumably gradual) / small focus distance kinda well but more often messes up bigger focus 'pulls'? Still not sure whether I just resign myself to manual focus and get a Viltrox 'booster rather than the Fringer EF adapter. I think reduced focal lengths will be easier to tame the stabilisation on too.
  14. dgvro

    Fuji X-T4

    I don't know how it is with this exact speedbooster on this exact camera but I recall seeing a fairly thorough test with both the Canon 1.4 and 1.8 (STM) 50mm lenses on the Viltrox and Metabones EF->m43, and the cheaper STM 50mm performed better than the 1.4 for some reason in terms of AF, at equal apertures etc. Could be worth considering if the AF thing matters to you. The aperture is already crazy wide enough for me by the time you're x0.71'ing an f/1.8 on APS-C
  15. dgvro

    Fuji X-T4

    Been noticing something very worrying the last couple of times I've used my XT4: What seems to be problematic (hot?) pixels on the sensor (this is happening regardless of lens). I'll double check whether this shows up IMMEDIATELY when using the camera at all or only after a lot of minutes of use i.e. heating up. I may need to avail of some kind of return/warranty here if this is really going to be how my camera works... I tried cleaning the sensor with air and nothing changed. Any thoughts? Should I be getting rid of this unit ASAP? Note: youtube has probably destroyed the quality to the point it's hard to see this... try to watch in at least 2k I guess... I did already zoom in the videos etc and used circles to indicate where I could see the bad pixels
  16. dgvro

    Fuji X-T4

    Again, on the IBIS, anyone else using manual/dumb-adapter lenses on this thing notice that stabilisation looks COMPLETELY different when you aren't using a native/electronic lens? I mean at the exact same focal length in either case. The IBIS is actually not hideous when you use a fully manual lens/"shoot without lens". Then back to the digusting quantum robocop mode when you put a Fuji lens back on. It's heartbreaking. Might have even stuck with my old GH5 if I knew I'd still be limited to using manual focus lenses to this extent, for such a strange reason.
  17. dgvro

    Fuji X-T4

    You can turn IBIS off but I believe you must also have your lens OIS off at the same time then. Or you can't have IBIS on with the (Fuji) lens OIS left off, or something. I avoid OIS lenses anyway so haven't tested myself. When you say AF is good with the speedbooster, what type do you mean? Stills? With these adapters people seem to usually just mean this and then forget to add "oh but of course the AF-C is unusable" when asked about video AF I'm still very disappointed in the IBIS with this camera, especially after the update, and I see people are similarly finding the Exposure "fix" update to be flawed too. I think Fuji has a strategy of releasing firmware updates that purport to address a known issue with the camera, not really actually succeed in fixing said issue, and then just hope the general (misinformed) public awareness of "oh but I heard they fixed that in an update now so it's all good!" spreads enough to keep the sales coming, and the "Fuji cares about its customer base because look at all the firmware fixes" semi-myth continues.
  18. CameraConspiracies guy did seem to manage to recreate an overheat in one of the latest videos. Think he might have been using 4k60 and it was roughly after the quoted 20mins. I used to use my GH5 to non-stop roll internal record on >1hr long live music gigs and it's a slight bummer knowing I can't do that with my XT4 now unless I get a Ninja V or something. I can't remember if I saw yet what the overheating is like in only 1080 or lower fps 4k.
  19. Try some of the older firmware versions from the Viltrox site. A few months ago I had an XH1 and the EFFX2 and couldn't even get the in-body stabilisation working when the adaptor connected. Not sure if they ever fixed it all with the XH1. I returned both in the end. I hope the viltrox adapter compatibility has improved now... Apparently when you connect an OIS lens on the XT4 and EF-FX2, you only get the lens stabilisation and it turns IBIS off. Which sounds terrible, but I can easily enough avoid lens OIS I guess. So all these people praising the Fringer for having great AF, none of them were actually talking about video? That's annoying. Is anyone using the Viltrox speedbooster with an XT4? Interested to know how the IBIS works now. I've noticed strange differences in the feel of the IBIS on manual and adapted lenses vs native. I'm still not sure myself which adapter to get. If the Fringer AF really isn't good enough for video, but the Viltrox AF is just about okay for stills then that's cool with me, especially as I get wider focal reduced lenses then which really helps (in a roundabout way, yes) the poor stabilisation with XT4 and makes it easier to keep in focus /deeper DoF effect than a longer focal length too. Really hard to find good info about the Kipon Baveyes and I don't think I ever wanna spend what the Metabones costs, good as it sounds.
  20. God this would be cool if it included Ireland. Not even northern Ireland included, I suppose. If I was still trying to get paid video gigs I can't imagine I wouldn't be hungrily trying to use this in lieu of actual rental of a lens or camera or two!
  21. dgvro

    Fuji X-T4

    Well, if it's similar what I came across, I'm sure the manual lenses did
  22. dgvro

    Fuji X-T4

    If I should just start a whole thread just for the IBIS saga(s), let me know: I discovered today that even at identical focal lengths, the IBIS seems handle totally differently in shoot without lens mode now (I think on the old firmware it was the same in both modes) i.e. when you have a manual dumb adapter lens on the camera versus ANY native lens (not stabilised lens, I don't own any OIS lenses) When you have a dumb/not-electronic lens on the camera the IBIS is still a bit floatier (I maybe dare even say 'smoother'), when you let your movement cease, the sensor can be seen slowly coming to a stop afterward, a bit of extra movement trails on. Looks fine, at least for me, maybe just more used to this. BUT when you have a Fuji lens of the EXACT same focal length on, the IBIS is much tighter and doesn't continue floating in the same direction for that brief moment when you stop movement. It stops dead a bit quicker and, in my opinion, more robotically. This was the main change I thought I noticed with the newer firmware, I should note. But they never said anything like "we changed the IBIS performance but only for native lenses", did they? ((regardless of lens OIS)) This is both with or without IS Boost on, I'm starting to lose any/all sense of what difference IS Boost even makes any more tbh. And I'm not using DIS at any point. Again, NOT using any stabilised lenses either. Has anyone else noticed quirks with IBIS having a REALLY different feel to it across native vs manual lenses even at identical focal lengths? I did check the true FOV matched and all. I was testing with Fuji 18mm and the Pentax P110 little 18mm f2.8 I have videos but it'll take me a day or two to get those.
  23. I think (on the R6 for sure anyway, which is the only realistic price tag to even talk about vs these other cameras) the video codecs are overall kind of only par with current gen Pana/Fuji cameras in this range, but it would be the first time it's being pulled off with both proper AF (Pana fails here) and proper IBIS (Fuji fails here) together. Sounds like a big question mark over whether the dynamic range will measure up to either of those brands' flagships though. Some other little gotchas such as inflexible fps options (you basically just get one single high framerate mode 120p and that's it?), All-i vs IPB forced on you in some modes, and the thing where you can't capture on SD in some modes. Not drooling over it so far, for some reason. I got into cameras only around 2017 and I think my brain has a hard time even getting used to the idea of a Canon mirrorless (or DSLR) leading the way for video. When a ~€2k (or less!) mirrorless finally does 4k above 60p, even with a little extra crop, say 90fps or something, I'll feel like that's something next level. Would be really awesome if the R6 4k didn't max out at 60p.
  24. dgvro

    Fuji X-T4

    Hmm. Similar again, I guess the IBIS-only one did look a tiny bit worse - definitely could see those micro quantum leaps this time! Everything from IBIS+Boost onward seemed a little better, yep. Still something a tiny bit nervous about the movement in the +IS Boost one, it's almost like you can see it just about restraining the micro stepping as it happens, haha. Good to know, thanks for this. I'll continue to give IS Boost another fair shot. Especially since it's not adding crop and it doesn't (I think?) introduce any warpy jelly biz. I think an IS anti-boost toggle option might what I'd kill for (at least on the initial firmware). I see Olympus, Kings of IBIS, even have a whole sliding scale parameter you can set
  25. dgvro

    Fuji X-T4

    In this video, I maybe noticed the IBIS-only shot having a sliiightly shakier quality. To be honest none of these clips seemed to suffer much from the micro stepping stabilisation anyway. It's just such a tight, brief shot and yeah, maybe not even the exact sort of panning that causes it either. 'orbiting' around a central point and panning as you move position (in order to maintain framing on the centre point) seems to be what the IBIS makes the biggest shitshow of. Likewise raising the camera's altitude while tilting up or down slowly simultaneous. DIS looked okay here and it reduces shakiness normally but it clearly causes disgusting warping/jelly in my clips so far, I can't go near it. Maybe on longer lenses it's more usable due to the quirks of the optics compression on longer focal lengths, i.e. if it's at its worst on a very wide lens (especially anything less than perfectly rectilinear), maybe it's by the same token conversely way less terrible on an opposite sort of lens (long).
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