Nathanael McKinley Myton

On 6/30/2017 at 1:08 AM, Ed Andrews said:

I'd hazard a guess at super16 film and vintage lenses and then some sort of camcorder for a few of the digital looking shots - or could be post trickery seeing as they look to be pretty much the same angle. Could also be shot s16 cropped on Amira/Alexa or Red, Soy F5, etc and clever grading.

It's directed by fashion photographer Alasdair McLellan, couldn't find DP credits on promo news. 

Either way, I love this look.

Yea being from the same angle made me wonder if it was all done in post...

Anyways I agree it's a good look

Ok I liked the vid and as a fairly uninformed viewer the video effects (grading/noise/digital artifacts/etc) gave me a nostalgic feeling that fit the theme. But I really don't know anything about cameras and would be interested to hear a more informed opinion. What camera(s) do you think were used? Does the end result do it for you or is it distracting? etc

Ok this is not the pinnacle of artistic videography or technical prowess, but hopefully it can get by on a bit of story and a location that can't be beat. I'm not very active on this forum but I have learned a lot of technical tips from lurking in old threads so I thought I might share my recent video that I'm actually very pleased with.

I know you guys love the tech stuff so I'll let you know the expensive equipment I used: Olympus E-M10 with a Panasonic 14mm f2.5 and an iPhone 6. Unfortunately more than I would have liked ended up shot on the iPhone, but what can you do. It was just the two of us up there and the success (and safety!) on the climb was definitely not a sure thing, so I considered it a success to get as much footage out of it as I did. 

The Google Earth screen capture stuff I was pleased to figure out, but it could have been executed much better. I couldn't get the application to load the full resolution images of El Capitan, so I was stuck using the web browser which was laggy (on my computer anyways) and didn't have much in the way of camera controls.

Anyways thanks for watching and hope you enjoy.

2 hours ago, Jon Jacobs said:

Whether Auto-ISO is a frequently requested feature among still photographers or not is immaterial to this discussion and frankly this forum as a whole. This is or at one time was a forum dedicated to shooting film-like footage with DLSRs. There are plenty of still photography forums. This isn't one of them. It's for video shooters, and specifically, video shooters trying to mimic the look of film. Which means following a few basics like 180-degree shutter, getting exposure right by knowing how ISO, aperture, shutter speed, and available light all work together. You do it long enough and it becomes 2nd nature. But if you're 20 with your first beard and you think all this old-school crap is "played out" and you just want to go to a music festival and shoot wide open in bright sun with a 1/1500 shutter because screw NDs that's for old men with ear horns, you'll just live with choppy motion that screams amateur video because hell why not all the best Red Bull extreme idiot videos have that same look so it must be woke, right bra?

Just how lazy are some of you guys? Shooting Manual for video is how pros do it. It's how film shooters did and do it. It's how you get the best looking motion footage from a digital camera, so the brightness isn't ramping up and down as the camera senses and then tries compensating on the fly with the inevitable and unescapable delay that screams camcorder instead of Super 35. Like I told Vesku, if auto-ISO is what you want, you're in the wrong forum. Shoot auto-everything with your iPhone and be done with it. You'll be much happier with your video, and you won't have to worry about cameras with pesky manual controls you need to spend a whole day or two to grok. 

I get that some of you younger guys are inexperienced, impatient, and have zero sense of history or tradition. I get that these things are "played out" to you, that you know better because you live now while the great filmmakers lived in the past, forced to use all that un-woke (sleeping?) manual gear. This is the age of Trump after all - the Post-Fact era, where actually knowing things is a liability. Better to just grab it and Make Art like this genius.

Maybe it's me. Maybe I still think these forums are for guys trying to get a film look from a digital camera, instead of what they seem to have become which is that perforated drain catcher in the shower that collects all the hairballs and effluvia. 

I'm definitely new here, but I've been reading this forum for a bit and learning a lot from some pretty welcoming people, which I've appreciated. I don't know why you need to insult me based on my age, appearance, interests, and skill level and then tell me I'm not welcome in a forum that you made your account on just 5 hours ago.

Edit: anyways, I'll refrain from mentioning my auto-exposure addiction or the words "still photography" around here again

Though I get the impression the majority of people here actually do partake in a bit of the forbidden "still photography" from time to time

@Jon Jacobs Auto-ISO in M mode is a frequently requested feature among still photographers, and many other camera manufacturers have had it for a long time. It has a number of useful applications. For example, when shooting sports on a field with some variation in light (shadows in an area of the field), you could set your shutter speed to capture the action without motion blur, aperture to ensure enough DOF, and allow the camera to adjust ISO for a proper exposure.

And if you can accept that auto exposure (P, S, or A mode) is ever acceptable for videography, then surely you could think of a use for it in video. Set shutter speed at 1/50, aperture for whatever DOF you're looking for, and then allow the camera to moderate ISO to keep a proper exposure. But it seems like you're of the mind that any time someone is shooting video with a DSLR they can NEVER use any form of auto exposure in any circumstance. I think that's a bit short sighted, but I guess you feel pretty strongly about it.

Why does everyone have to get all holier than thou about stuff like using manual exposure.

On 11/18/2016 at 11:50 PM, fuzzynormal said:

Thanks. I think it illustrates how warm and engaging personalities are the more fundamental aspects of a doc. 

Craft is good and appreciated, but if you have a "Mark Borchardt" type, that's more than half the battle. 

As for the camera(s).  I think ultimately I probably could've shot this on a GH1 (hacked) and got the same results.  Which is to say that cameras have been suitable enough for me for quite awhile. 

Btw, the Oly 45mm 1.8, the pany 20mm 1.8, a Nikon 24mm 2.8, and a Nikon 50mm 1.4. Preferred the Nikons. 

With thoughtfully explored characters like you presented in this, you could shoot it on an iphone and I'd still be fully engaged.

Fascinating discussion guys, thanks for the insight @Policar and @Vesku

17 minutes ago, Fredrik Lyhne said:

Maybe you should read the article. "For the video above I used the Canon 50mm F1.2L"

ah indeed you are correct. I did read a good part of the article, but ended up skipping around a bit as I was got a little bogged down in some of the minutiae of crop factors and comparable cameras. And notably didn't see a 50mm in any of the pictures (I like pictures)

Venice looked nice. Curious what lens is producing all that chromatic aberration though.. it was pretty horrendous in a lot of those shots. Like if I was trying to teach someone what chromatic aberrations look like, I'd probably just have them watch the first minute of your video.

like damn if that's not pretty distracting 

Awesome, I saw your trailer a while back and it looked great. Excited to watch the whole thing.

Edit: Just finished. Loved it. really.