Simon Young

@Django wow, here goes the Sony fanboy crying again - I shoot with Nikon and Fuji by the way, I hate Sony to a fault. See what you assume when you're getting all excited about how the R5 outperforms the Canon cinema line is just that, an assumption. Numbers on paper. No real world testing, no initiated information about codecs and bitrates, reliability and on and on. Who knows, the IBIS might even be botched or just plain useless, like the Sony or the X-T4. Get a fucking grip and save the panegyric for canonrumors.

This represents the type of comments I will come back to when the misty eyed corona pandemic induced haze of wishful thinking goes away. Thinking the R5 is going to outperform the C500ii for a fraction of the price is so delusional it’s heartbreaking. Do you really think the Canon engineers have somehow come up with a way to defy physics? That the R5 sensor and body will magically not be affected by or generate heat? Or that they have conjured up a 45MP sensor that has such an incredible readout speed that rolling shutter won’t be an issue? Or that they mystically now have leap frogged the Sony sensors with regards to dynamic range? Get a fucking grip.

Having owned the A7rIII and the A6000 before that I really dislike Sony (the ergos, the colors, the cheap build quality) but I kind of hope they will release a 12mpx A7sIII with a slightly bigger body than the A7rIV, pristine native 4K and downscaled 1080p ooc, Sony autofocus, nicer handling and most importantly: an electronic vari-nd and the S-Cinetone profile from the FX9. I love that profile, which in my opinion is the best looking SOOC image out there. 10bit 4.2.2 at 200mbps I HEVC would be enough. Priced at 3-3,500 us. I’d buy one in a heartbeat. Maybe two. Sadly this will never happen.

It will have dreadful rolling shutter and overheat. If you think Canon will release a more powerfulf MILC than their 16.000 dollar C500ii but for a third of the price you should stop kidding yourselves. Like immediately. If something sounds too good to be true, it's never true. I've tested the 1dxIII and it is of course a wonderful stills camera for sports and journalism, but its rolling shutter almost makes it unusable for handheld video, in 5k and 4k. Oddly many people don't even talk about this. Imagine what it will look like in 8k.

See the overheating around 8:50. I actually bought the X100V despite the overheating, I'm only using it for photos but it gets really hot as you say. I've got really high hopes for Canon this year but knowing Canon I'm not holding my breath.

He's using the 10-24mm which would cause a problem on any IBIS system, but notice how even when he's trying to hold the camera still, there's excessive warping. The only time it looks ok is when he's on his boat, with the camera presumably fixed with a gorilla. Unusable. It would look ten times better with the X-T3 and the 10-24mm only using OIS of the lens.

I'm pretty sure I've seen at least 98 percent of all the preproduction videos on the X-T4, since I was super interested in buying it and replace my Z6 with it. I can safely say that the warping and wobble from the X-T4 is worse than all the cameras I've ever tried or owned (A7III, Olympus EM-1 II, Z6 and GH5). This is a huge disappointment. I've also seen one video where the guys testing the X-T4, I think in Malaysia, gets the camera to overheat within 15 minutes, something that never happened with my X-T3. What I find especially disturbing is that if you are hand holding the X-T4 with as little movement as possible it still exhibits warping, even on a moderately wide lens like the 16mm. This doesn't happen with my Z6 on a 24mm. It's very very stable.

Wow @sanveer maybe take it easy with the name calling, finger pointing and fascism? Your last post is truly vile and I don’t think you want to go down this route in this forum.

I just hope the 4K will be solid without too much rolling shutter and that the IBIS doesn’t exhibit any warping when shooting at 24mm. And please no fucking overheating. How hard can it be? Fuji dropped the ball with X-T4.

Isn’t the upcoming R6 much more interesting though? I sincerely hate the megapixel race and still think the output of the Nikon D700 is unmatched. I really hope they put an updated version of the 20 mpx sensor from 1dxiii in the R6, since the rolling shutter of the 1dxiii is fucking atrocious in 4K video (both 5.5k raw and 10bit hevc). Seeing that the X-T4 is compromised because of poor heat management and too much warping when shooting anything wider than 24mm in full frame terms, the 2020 camera releases got a put less exciting, the Corona crisis notwithstanding.

There’s going to be a nasty rolling shutter on that 8K. But great for static shots. I’m more intrigued by the R6. Has anybody heard more about that one? According to Canon rumors it’s not gonna have a magnesium alloy body (probably plastic), and be more shaped like the RP.

I sat through this video so you don’t have to, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news: the camera showed signs of overheating really quickly. Yes, they seem to be in a very warm climate but according to the reviewer warnings about overheating popped up within minutes. If this will be the case with the finished production copies, it will certainly not be suitable for any serious work. Ominous to say the least, especially since there are several reports about issues with the X100V as well, from overheating to misaligned focus rings. Shame on you Fujifilm.

It can be turned way down, more so than many other cameras I’ve owned. The Z6 produces a stellar image with loads of dynamic range in flat, unfortunately its only 8 bit.

@Juan Melara I know you probably get this all the time but you’re a genius and a prophet.

@Django If we’re doing the whole anecdotal thing I can safely say I would prefer the Made in China Fuji’s. I had two X-T2s, both brand new, and both wonky, one had the screen misaligned and the other had the faux leather on the grip out of place. They both had a weird smell as well. I also bought a brand new X100F, made in Japan of course, and the screen in the viewfinder got permanently stuck so I had to get a new copy. Owned two different X-T3s as well, both felt really well put together and I had zero problems with their functionality, never had them lock up not even once, and they never overheated. My current made in Japan Nikon Z6 has the card door all out of place with at least two millimeters of play from the body. And I never buy gray market products, always from a reputable retailer in Sweden.

There are plenty of examples on Youtube where they show off IBIS only, with EIS disabled.

The camera is definitely weather sealed. From Fuji's website: "The X-T4 features an all-new fixed-axis 6.5-stop* in-body image stabilization (IBIS) mechanism and a new large-capacity battery that enables extended hours of shooting. These new components are housed inside a compact weather-sealed body that is dust- and moisture-resistant, capable of working at temperatures as low as minus 10 degrees Celsius. The ergonomic grip allows you to hold the camera steady even when using larger telephoto lenses."

https://www.fujirumors.com/fujifilm-x-t4-press-release-leaked/ Sadly no information on whether the X-T4 uses an updated X-processor 4.

It love the Z6 and the output but I’ve always had a soft spot for Fujifilm and sort of waited for them to release a camera like this (IBIS, internal 10-bit, 4k60). There’s also something about the lcd and viewfinder lag when in video mode with the Z6 that annoys me and that I never really could get over. For stills though the Z6 is great and I might have to rebuy it when they finally release their compact primes

https://www.fujirumors.com/fujifilm-x-t4-first-official-product-images-leaked/ I think it looks sexy all boxy and black with sharp edges. Just worried it might overheat. Otherwise an instabuy- bye bye Z6.

Nokishita just leaked the full spec sheet. https://doc-0g-ao-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/securesc/5nmdmcnfio76k738otv2dej37qfi8dhb/cmn1pi8n2jhv2u2d7ilm9uajg3ocatts/1582228800000/01433304230180543164/05935394919779228397Z/1iX8rilmgVJwsmYQKF145o3Cu8HJ8A0sR?e=download&nonce=3rpfss69n43fo&user=05935394919779228397Z&hash=enf3917f6e2i3spe7si0rvdr5g359fu0

First leaked images of the X-T4. Hard to tell but it doesn’t look huge and it’s certainly no X-H2 body wise. https://www.fujirumors.com/leaked-fujifilm-x-t4-full-size-images-front-and-back/

Personne chez Sony a dit une chose pareille.

Yup. Makes you even wonder if the sensor is gonna be an “enhanced version” of the one in the XT-3 as he previously stated...

This is true. He is nowhere near Moriyama or Fukase, not even close.