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Lol.. ok now were defending an unannounced hypothetical future camera.. wow the force is strong with this one!

Basically the point is no matter what you say or prove to him: Sony > Nikon. I've already been through it once back when XH1 was announced. Back then GH5 was the holy one.

Newsflash: Body & Lenses are weather resistance tested together. Think about it, doesn't make sense any other way.. FYI the Sony 24-70mm F4 isn't close to this level of weather sealing (it has no rubberized gasket around the mount)..

sorry but everybody knows Nikon is on a whole other level of weather resistance then Sony..

Huh? The Nikon Z lenses are absolutely weather sealed.. please get your info correct

..in that case so are the Sony's: 35mm F2.8 is $800 35mm F1.4 is $1,600 50mm F1.4 is $1,500 also the S-line is supposed to be optimized for video with minimum breathing & noise. and with the adapter you got access to some really good affordable Nikkor glass, like the 50mm F1.2 i recently purchased for under $400

A7RIII with 24-70mm f/4 will run you about $4,000. Add a smart adapter and you are well over that. If you're into video Z6 is the obvious choice anyways. Not sure what point you're trying to make.. Nikon is being extremely competitive in pricing compared to Sony.. considering you're getting pro weather sealed bodies, 10-bit 4:2:2 out etc..

@jonpais ok forget the words “Dual Pixel”. They’ve copied how Canons Video Autofocus operates & works. Watch the 5DIV Video I posted above and compare what it shows you to the video AF details I posted an hour ago from Nikons Z7 brochure.

Well they've copied how Canon's DPAF operates & works, but certainly not on the patented root level.. As for Tony & Chelsea, concerning video AF they say at 4:00 "almost Canon level of smooth & usable". As for stills AF they disclaim "we can't be certain our results were exact because the lighting & environment we were in - not good" "we had the camera for an hour and couldn't go outside". like is said in the other thread, Z7 has -1EV AF detection and you have to enable "Low light AF" to reach -4EV which they probably did not do. So in other words, i wouldn't call their report conclusive..

Now that wouldn't be very wise now.. no I mean the overall settings and operability, it's literally just lifted off the 5DIV:

Looks like Nikon have done their homework and thoroughly copied Canon's dual pixel AF for video implementation: The Z 7 newly offers AF-C as a movie focus mode. By pressing the AF-ON button during movie recording, you can flexibly control when AF starts and stops. Used in combination with AF speed and AF tracking sensitivity options, this mode also makes it possible to use “focus pull” techniques, to make scenes more impressive. AF-C allows you to take full advantage of the shallow depth-of- field and beautiful bokeh effects that an FX-format sensor and NIKKOR Z lenses offer. Focusing speed and the smoothness of focus transitions when switching between subjects can make a huge difference in movies. The Z 7 lets you customize the speed* and tracking sensitivity of AF when filming videos. AF speed is adjustable in 11 steps, between “Slow” (-5) and “Fast” (+5). At lower levels, focus is achieved slowly, making scenes look more cinematic. AF tracking sensitivity can be adjusted in 7 steps, from “High” (1) to “Low” (7). Select a higher sensitivity if you want to switch focus quickly to the next subject, and a lower sensitivity for maintaining focus on the current subject for longer. Smart of them to copy top features from various industry leaders. Love the on/off AF toggle in Canon DPAF units. speed & sensitivity settings should also allow diverse & smooth video AF response.. When “On” is selected for “Auto-area AF face detection,” the camera automatically detects faces, and users can choose which face to focus on if there is more than one. Thanks to a newly developed face-detection and subject-tracking algorithm, the AF can keep tracking a subject’s face if they turn their head or briefly look away. This should prevent the AF system going haywire when multiple faces are in field, and from the looks of it, it actually works:

Their main gripe seems indeed about the low-light AF performance.. after spending an hour with a pre-production camera.. in a dim lit environment. It should be pointed out that the Z7 has -1EV AF detection (Z6 has -2EV) unless you enable the "low light AF" feature which brings it down to -4EV. My guess is they were shooting default AF setting. That said for all I know the AF does struggle in low-light (most MILCs do imo), I'd just wait until more thorough reviews before passing judgment..

If pro photography is your main gig.. then this is definitely not going to top a D850 (or even D750) especially with adapted lens. But for hybrid/video shooting, i think Z6 is going to be the bees knees! @Mark Romero 2 1080p 120fps only in DX crop mode??? that's on Z7. Z6 won't crop.

..yet technically speaking: Faster processor (Expeed 6) Faster card support (soon CFexpress compatible) Bigger battery (EN-EL 15B) More AF points (493 vs 153) Bigger AF coverage & Hybrid PDAF Bigger mount Better video specs IBIS ..as for the lenses they are being marketed as optically superior to their G counterparts and optimized for video.. (but of course only 3 available atm) all that being said Nikon are pretty clever and have deliberately left open space for Z8/Z9 and have been careful enough to not cannibalize it's DSLR counterparts by leaving out second card slots and slower legacy lens performance etc.. i'm still GASing hard for a Z6, but in no way do these 2 models make a D850/D5 obsolete, for photography. These aren't killing the DSLR just yet.

@noone most likely a typo, Nikon japan site rates the battery life for video at 85mn: http://www.nikon-image.com/products/mirrorless/lineup/z_6/spec.html there is also a battery saving feature and of course it all depends how you use the camera, but jareds report should indicate real world field use is much superior to the CIPA rating.. DJI isn't just a drone company anymore, they purchased hasselblad and mavic 2 embarks a hasselblad branded camera, hence the more pro specs (on paper, really i suspect it's more marketing). it has a 1" sensor though, making 10-bit relatively easy to achieve processing wise. this is how panasonic and now fuji are achieving 10-bit internally without heat issues. it's another story for full frame mirrorless. regardless, nikon are the first to push 10-bit external on a sensor and body this size..

Pretty sweet 10-bit 4:2:2 colors demonstrated here. Slow-mo seems pretty sharp / alias free & AF face tracking does good job on the gimbal (ibis?) shot. My Fuji system might be getting the axe soon..

The proof is in the pudding. Sony claims 14 stops on A73 and that's an 8-bit codec . So yeah why get the BM P4K? we all know some companies fudge these claims, others are more conservative.Nikon is probably the later, they gave a CIPA rating of 10-15mn video battery life, yet Fro dude says " The battery read 44% at the end of our shooting which included 500 or so photos, setting up the menus as well as filming for close to 20 minutes in full frame 4k."

"One thing I did not mention is battery life. The battery read 44% at the end of our shooting which included 500 or so photos, setting up the menus as well as filming for close to 20 minutes in full frame 4k. Not sure if that is good or bad just yet but a grip is something I will def be using with two batteries." That is a massive improvement over the US Nikon site ratings info. Looks like the Japanese site rating (85 minutes of video) is more accurate. That is quite excellent news as battery life was a massive blow in the announced specs..

Don't underestimate Nikon's flat profile. Mattias Burling had estimated 2014's D750 Flat profile DR at +13 stops: These 2018 Z series BSI sensors should push out the same if not better DR internally..

Apparently Atomos actually helped Nikon develop the 10-bit N-Log..

The single card slot is a little baffling but at least it's XQD which are a lot more reliable and faster than SDs.. it's also future proof with CFexpress compatibility via firmware. CFexpress has been speculated as an ideal candidate for ProRes Raw support in 'mid upper-level camcorders' ( http://www.studiodaily.com/2018/04/nab-2018-1400-mbsec-cfexpress-card-future-prores-raw-recording/ ) which i find kinda interesting

In other related news: "The Nikon Z6 is the World’s first mirrorless camera that can output a 4K full frame image in 10-bit 4:2:2 externally and Atomos has just announced that their Ninja V will support the Nikon Z cameras from launch with N-Log support. Nikon is already showing the Ninja V together with the Nikon Z6 & Z7 at the launch events." newsshooter.com "You can connect external recording devices with HDMI cable and record 4K UHD uncompressed files at the same time. HDMI output with 10 bit * with deep color depth of about 1,073,746 thousand colors is also possible. It supports ATOMOS Open Protocol, and even when shooting with 4K UHD, you can start / stop recording of the same Protocol compatible HDMI recorder with the movie shooting button on the camera." nikon.co.jp

it's right there in the specs dude: Movie Maximum Recording Time 29 minutes 59 seconds https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/mirrorless-cameras/z-6.html#tab-ProductDetail-ProductTabs-TechSpecs

sorry just had to ?

Full AF/AE supported when using FX or DX AF-S Type G/D/E, AF-P type G/E, AF-I type D and AF-S/AF-I Teleconverter https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/lens-mount-adapter/mount-adapter-ftz.html#tab-ProductDetail-ProductTabs-Overview