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This looks like a great camera to me. Too bad the ibis isnt as great as the lumix camera's. But looks better then fx3, has a better screen, takes better stills. Never had an nikon before. So might end up buying one. The big monitor sounds like a win, as it makes so much difference in the process of enjoying making video's. External monitors are somewhat a drag.

Looks like a nice camera, looking forward to some side by sides with the c50, fx3 and s1ii. AF with adapters, AF with native glass, ibis, colour, dr, battery life.

Looks nice, no ND though. 
I hope it will have ibis and great battery life. 

4 hours ago, MrSMW said:

I considered getting one as my primary video unit but the cost plus the weight, but mainly the weight, put me off. Big time.

I decided that for my needs, this would be a FAR better option full stop.

And that is where it started and stopped for me, ie, massive overkill in so many ways…but for my specific use case which is a hybrid shooter.

If I was pure video, it would be different and actually, I could see myself using one as a principal unit along with something static or semi-static.

I presume the AF on the dji ronin 4d is better then the s1rii. Allthough not sure. Something I negletated over a decade, but now I realise how much time you save by using AF. So it moved up in my importance list. And is why I am also considering sony again, as they still seem to lead the pack in the AF department.

2 hours ago, QuickHitRecord said:

I agree, but if you're trying to make a living doing this, those were a lot of billable hours that are not going to be available anymore.

I had a potential client reach out about a project and I sent her a quote. I never heard back and later saw on their socials an AI version of said project. 

I'd like to hear more about your experience because I can't quite grasp what the revision process would be like. I assume that you adjust your prompts based on client feedback, but does the client ever tell you exactly what prompts to use? And rather than trying to communicate their ideas, do they ever just generate their own AI imagery? At that point, I think I might have a difficult time justifying why I would still need to be involved.

Well the prompting is not that easy, what sometimes you think is easy turns out in an horror challenge to get it somehow how you would like. It costs credits. Clients depend on your knowhow and experience to get it done. Similar like actual shooting, what is stopping them to get an camera and shoot it themselves. Time/costs

Hi,

Who here has used an dji ronin 4d? Whats your experience? What are the cons and pro's?

(The weight seems a big con. 5kg..) maybe also its size is an issue, as its quite the setup. And it might not fit in places where an mirrorless might fit. 

But I never used or seen one, so I am not sure.

Cheers

Pretty amazing what gen AI is capable off now though. 

Is there any other benefit besides the raw over hdmi? As i have no use for that.

22 hours ago, MrSMW said:

as @newfoundmass said above, you can do your own thing and it’s easier than ever these days.

Too much weight given to SOOC colour science…

 

Allthough it is not entirenly only my issue. Clients (production companies) ask footage to be shot in log. And while it is no longer my issue but the editor or color grader issue. I prefer the colours coming straight out of camera to be nice. Especially when they are combinging footage from different shooters and camera's. I don't want to be the guy where they have the most work in post with. As most production companies ask feedback forms from everyone involved, and if an editor writes down "I prefer the footage from shooter B because the colours are ready to go, and I am shooter A, then I might move down the list of shooters to call for a new project".

Alllthough I will try to always use the C500 ii for these types of clients when possible. Where the colours are stellar straight out of camera.

17 minutes ago, newfoundmass said:

Isn't all your personal issues with the image moot when you factor in the ability to add your own lut, thus giving you the color you want SOOC?

Yeah I need to create my own lut, as so far I have not found one with good contrast. Have not tried baking in a lut. 

7 minutes ago, MrSMW said:

And just to show that there are as many arguments for Lumix over Black Magic, probably because I clicked on that YouTube link above, I'm getting such comparisons in my feed now (!!), I clicked on one and grabbed a frame:

What are those greens...I'm sorry, yellows supposed to be on the left (BM) image and are those skin tones better?

Not to my eyes and taste they are not, albeit this dude had slapped his LUT on these, but still...

Click on the pic for a better view but there pic on the right looks far more pleasing and natural to me.

Ntblowz might be onto something.

I 99.9% shoot caucasian people, and red skin patches might be more prone to white skin. 

Obviously your still is graded and not a rec 709 conversion. But agree here it looks good. But might also have to do with the skincolor.

Allthough I never seem to have any skintones issues with blackmagic or canon c500ii and on my s5ii footage this always pops up. 

17 minutes ago, ntblowz said:

Speaking of colour science when we shoot indian weddings the Lumix looks more pleasing than Sony straight up... the ugly yellow really ruined it without colour grading.

When we do some livestream for Chinese (which is predominately Sony) they were shocked with the colour coming from Lumix cam, you know aisan really hate yellow on their already yellow skin.  They really prefer pale and magenta more which Canon is really good at, which lumix is kinda similarish in that regard.

This time last year I am all Sony.. FX3/FX30/E1.. sold them all and never regret. (well except the 4k60p crop but luckily my Canon can all do non crop 4K60p ha).

I m still deciding between S1RII or S1II at end of the year when wedding season start to ramp up in southern hemisphere, 2 of my friend is gonna get S1II so I kinda want to be a bit different to them.

That is interesting, I wonder that is the reasoning about all these colour science differences between brands/camera's etc.

56 minutes ago, MrSMW said:

So this has changed from you comparing S1Rii colour compared with S5ii compared with OG S5 to S1ii vs Black Magic, I can't keep up 😜

I could change the topic now to your Black Magic colour science vs my Lumix IBIS.

But in all seriousness, there is no one single one stop solution to anything but rather a case of whatever suits your needs best!

I know its not the same, but it is super obvious how red the skintones are on the s1ii. (Have not looked into much other comparison videos, but I saw this one passing my fb feed)

Could you fix it sure, but why is it so bad right out of camera? And it is something users have been complaining about for years, and they even made it worse..

Sure most reviewers that got shipped an camera from panasonic dont point this out.. 

1 hour ago, MrSMW said:

I disagree and you can call me a Lumix fangirl or shill, but having or having had all 3, nah.

Here is an example where it is quite obvious. (With the s1ii vs blackmagic) the skintone difference is massive. While on the blackmagic I would not need to change the skintones at all on the s1ii it would need some tweaking to get rid off the red skintones. Ok many clients prolly won't notice it or would complain about it. But I sure do see it + panasonic has the most different colour science of sony. Which at the moment is the market leader over here. And 1 client specific told me they liked colour science of sony the most, prolly because the market is flooded with sony footage and that is what they are used too. (Was on a shoot with a mix of panasonic and sony camera's next to each other, so we had to grade the panasonic footage to the sony look :') )

Looks like a great camera, but what prevents me buying it is the colour science. It looks worse then s5ii, and s5ii was already worse then the s5. 

The skintones look horrific magenta with red blotches. Which is the biggest problem with this camera imo. Sure you could fix it with some post work. But why would I buy this camera when there are numerous options out there that dont have this problem. And saves me time each project.

7 hours ago, MrSMW said:

 

 

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all in my best Scooby Doo impersonation 

So highlight rolloff does not matter to you? I don't want to come off as a guy which says camera A does this better then camera B. But surely you would think a new camera would beat a 5 year old camera. Z

Allthough it still overheats, and as an hybrid it still is flawed in the flash photography department.

I am not interested in the influencer reviews. And in the end its just a tool and what you put in front of it is much more important.. But highlight rolloff is never stated in the spec sheets.

I might be wrong, but did the a7siii not have better highlight rolloff? I thought I saw a video somewhere. 

37 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

It's a shame about Vimeo, they have been an absolute clown show.

But I think YouTube does the job well.

The way to use it is to get premium, to nuke all the ads. Much better then.

Sure, but still you need to watch 1000 videos before you find one decent video. It works great for informational video's, but actual commercials, brand videos that are inspirational seems hard to find. The ratio on skilled crew on vimeo looks way higher. In vimeo for example "the staff picks" were great.

Hi,

Now that vimeo is not allowing any searches in europe. I was wondering If I should create a website, that allows people to post their vimeo/youtube links on it or share links from other creators that are inspirational or just are amazing work. Where viewers can search, comment, like it trough this website.

As it is hard to find good stuff on youtube for inspiration, and now without vpn impossible on vimeo. 

Is there interest in this type of website? Let me know, if there is enough interest I will build one. As it will only work if enough creators start sharing work on this site. 

Cheers!

Ok I bought the C500 mkII. Can't wait to create the first project with it. First tests the AF is so much smoother then my S5II, maybe not faster, but it feels more natural. As does the image. The dynamic range is not crazy better over an S5 or S5II it seems. The highlight rolloff seems smoother though. The internal Nd's are fun too.
 

Hmm the big miss is no internal Nd Filters. If they would have included that it would be a huge success. 

Looking forward to actual footage though, s1rii def looked better then the s5ii.

Might pick up an used r5c(EF ND adapter) or c70 with speedbooster, that way I can have internal ND's. 

11 minutes ago, Simon Young said:

Specifications on the S1iiE leaked:

https://latam.connect.panasonic.com/mx/es/productos/lumix/lumix-s1iie

Not very exciting apart from the Arri logC information. Between the lines this seems to carry a tweaked IMX410 once again. 

Well most of us were just waiting on 50fps 4k full frame. I hope everything else improved as well. 

Like a better monitor, better colors etc. Prores raw internal is a bummer as resolve does not support it natively. 

1 hour ago, Snowfun said:

I think the best approach here is to analyse what you like and try to replicate it. Once we begin to understand why we like something about an edit the process is much easier. Much more fun than trawling through endless tutorials explaining how to do stuff you don’t even like…

Thats true, allthough I am never really enjoying edits. I rather enjoy the images but thats just me.

Oh I do have an m1 macbook lying around, but I never use it. I prefer windows. 
But if it works better, I might need to switch.

Hi guys,

So my pc is getting old around 5 years now. Playback rate is not that great in davinci resolve to the point I am losing too much time, still running an amd ryzen 1700x and gtx1080, SSD's and 32GB RAM. 
Not sure if there are any major breakthroughs that have sped up your editing workflow through your pc hardware lately.

Thinking about getting an i9 14900k and an rtx 4070. But open to any advice!

Thanks!