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Ah seems like the datarates of prores lt are still A lot more then h265, so then its not a great solution. Maybe the zr2 will fix it.

2 hours ago, Ilkka Nissila said:

Nikon has indicated there will be a firmware update with Prores 422 LT which should give a better compromise in data rate between RAW and h.265. I love Prores 422 HQ on the Z8; the color and appearance of the image are so similar to still images, but the files are admittedly large. It is curious why the ZR h.265 is not as detailed (in reviews; I don't have the ZR) at high ISO as the Z6 III. Maybe Nikon felt it was a priority to avoid overheating and allow long recording times while keeping the camera body compact? 

How are the datarates of prores lt? Is it similar as h265?

I will wait until nikon fixes the h265 codec on the zr. Then I will buy it, I just can't shoot RAW video all the time.  the ibis I can work around, the AF seems pretty good, the image is gorgeous, not the fastest for photo's but for travel it looks like a dream camera (if they fix the h265 codec). 

Doesnt look good. Hope thzy wont go under, I have hosted most of my videos up there.

2 hours ago, Davide DB said:

I think we are missing the point. Does it really matter exactly how it looks? The low-fi aesthetic fit the story perfectly and, to be honest, I enjoyed it visually much more than that Portuguese film shot on the GH7. Obviously, both are deliberate stylistic choices.

If you read the article, the choice to shoot with a phone and minimal equipment was absolutely necessary to be able to film in a real market on an open set.Baker already shot a movie on an iPhone 5 years ago and looking at Anora, it's clear he isn't afraid to spend money when the production calls for it.

 

Well for me it is taking me out of the film right away. I feel there is something off in each shot. ( color, dof, detail, dynamic range, bad lighting,...) So for each their own I guess, but this is not for me. As I am constantly wondering why each shot looks off and that is keeping me off the story.. (not sure if people with no film experience can spot it, I think they can). But just my 2 cents. The only film I ever saw that kinda worked that way was "the blair witch project" but they tell you in the first minute. This is the footage of some students that went missing in the woods" so I could give it an place.

2 hours ago, Clark Nikolai said:

It looks good. The use of iPhones is interesting. The quality is now more than good enough for narrative. I would imagine the camera operator would have been seen as just another YouTube travel and food blogger and ignored. I don't know how "guerrilla" their approach was though. Did they inform the market authorities they were shooting or did they just go and do it?

Story wise it seems fine. From my perspective (in a progressive city in another country) the left handed thing is so old fashioned that I wonder if it's truly a thing in Taiwanese culture or just a device for this story. 

Do you honestly think it looks good? 

I have not seen the film. I just watched the trailer because you shared the name. But I wonder why they chose the iphone 13 as the main camera. I wonder if its not just to tell people "hey we shot this on an iphone".  I get you can win time with just shooting on an iphone, but the image just isnt there. 
Based on the trailer alone, its not a movie I would want to see, as I have not seen a single frame that looks great. It all looks like something a soccer mom or kid on youtube makes these days. Not into that vloggy style of filmmaking myself. 

Oh shit, I have too many cameras.

50 minutes ago, Andrew - EOSHD said:

The files aren't as chunky and colour science not as good as Canon.

Yeah the file sizes are def an issue. Colour science is debatable.

Nikon zr should be at 1 IQ wise.

for pHotography def not. Use flash, so MUCH MORE power in a smaller body. For video its ok, but I would go for something more with an bowens s mount (so you can easy use softboxes, fresnells, spotlights,...)

3 hours ago, ND64 said:

And now the ZRc:

Fourth quarter of 2026 is too late, or something lost in translation. Z30/Z50II sensor at that point is lame. No IBIS is shame, and 4k60 with crop on APSC is unacceptable. But why its not Z30II? Doesn't make sense.

End of 2026? Djeez, even released today it would be underwelming.

6 hours ago, eatstoomuchjam said:

There have been numerous stories over the years, apocryphal maybe, but they were coming out even when the media loved Muskrat... anyway, the stories were frequently about how employees of companies like SpaceX believed him to be an absolute idiot and upper management believed that their main role with him was to block him from getting in the way.

One of the most famous stories was about some fuel tank that was fracturing in flight.  The engineers had some ideas, but Muskrat came up with some idea to put a layer of fast-set glue/resin on the outside that would stay liquid - and when the cracks started to appear in the tank, the adhesive would leak out and set, automatically healing the crack.  All of the best engineers in the company said that the idea could not possibly work and explained why it couldn't.  Yet, Muskrat insisted on an all hands on deck and everybody worked non-stop with the vessel and the resin until...  Muskrat finally acknowledged that the idea couldn't possibly work.

It sort of fits with a man who has basically failed upward for most of his life - such as how he got fired as CEO of PayPal after nearly running the company into bankruptcy with his bad ideas, but still owning a bunch of stock so that when Thiel transformed it to a profitable company and sold it to eBay, Muskrat came out with billions.

Would SpaceX exist without him?  No.  Would Starlink exist without SpaceX?  Also no.  Did he invent Starlink?  Also no.

Would Neuralink exist without him?  No, and who cares?  It's a good accessibility play for people who can't otherwise operate a computer, but for the rest of us, do you know anybody who is loudly complaining that they don't have some shitty device in their head that will ultimately be used to shovel ads directly into their brain?  Do you spend every day glaring at your computer wishing that your brain could directly control it?

For Tesla, he didn't invent it at all.  Outside of having a strong first mover advantage in terms of modern electric cars, they aren't very good.  Quality control has always been lacking.  Muskrat decides that for full self driving, they don't need industry-standard tools like proximity sensors, but instead they'll rely only on cameras.  He did, apparently, invent the truck that looks like a small child drew it and which is almost universally reviled.  So yay.

Otherwise, what has Muskrat invented?  Hyperloop - the dumbest mass transit invention in the history of humanity?  12 years later, there isn't a single operating hyperloop that you can go ride.  And it turns out that vactrain concepts had existed for years before he "invented" that too.  So...  has he had a single novel idea in his entire history?  Or is his "genius" really just in ways to exploit existing wealth to extract more money, mostly from the government?

A lot of this criticism assumes that value only comes from personally inventing things or never having bad ideas. That’s not how execution works.

Ideas are cheap. Execution is what matters.

Plenty of people had ideas about reusable rockets, EVs, satellite internet, or brain–computer interfaces long before Musk. What almost no one managed to do was turn those ideas into working, scaled systems in industries where startups usually fail.

SpaceX didn’t win because Musk designs fuel tanks. It won because it executed faster and cheaper than legacy aerospace giants with decades of experience. Tesla didn’t invent EVs, but it forced the entire auto industry to electrify years earlier than planned. Starlink is the largest satellite constellation ever deployed, providing connectivity where no real alternative existed.

Yes, he has bad ideas. Every aggressive executor does. The difference is that his companies survive them and still outperform competitors.

You don’t have to like Musk — but dismissing his role because he isn’t the inventor misses what execution actually means.

50 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

Elon Musk did not invent SpaceX alone.
He stood on:

NASA contracts

public research

global supply chains

skilled labor pools created by public education

Not to mention striking it lucky with PayPal and the sellout to eBay for billions.

Yet it would not exist without him.

13 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

To everyone I offended this year... work on yourself so I don't have to do it again next year.

If after all you have seen, you still drink the Elon koolaid you deserve all the personal attacks coming to you.

I have absolutely zero respect for your opinions or your feelings on the matter.

It is entirely your responsibility that you feel insulted by what I said above even though it was objective fact and not at all personal.

Elon is not a rocket scientist. He's a fucking twat face, alleged Nazi drug addict.

I suppose you think his little fascist bromance with Trump was furthering the future of Planet Earth as well?

Thanks for the very open-minded and respectful exchange.

11 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

Really I didnt know that

It was him was it? Have you ever considered it might instead be the thousands of employees of these companies backed by billions in venture capitalist funds and government NASA contracts.

Also as far as "the world" and "the future" goes, they haven't moved the needle that far.

SpaceX is just a private NASA contractor and they haven't even gone to the moon.

Tesla is a failing car company, completely outgunned by China.

Starlink consists of some satellites that ruin photos of the sky.

And Neural link is an allegedly deeply immoral pig experiment.

No. Critical thinking, and criticism is not the issue.

Gullible bastards are.

This reply feels unnecessarily hostile. We can disagree about Musk or his companies without resorting to personal attacks. I was simply sharing a perspective.

19 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

Everyone took the old style of politics for granted - we have never much liked the culture of it in the first place anyway, but as a result - it's even worse now.

Well honestly I am not sure the old style of politics was even better. Before social media, there was TV and newspapers (there still is). And the story was very onesided. Allthough they claim to be impartial, they were/are def not. And classic media was more easy to control.  (yet also easy to pay ads for social media..)

For example, I read an article about Elon Musk gets 96% more negative media coverage (not sure who wrote it or funded the research, but in my experience it def feels true). The man is a wacko, sure, but he is def the n1 executing entrepreneur who pushing the world towards the future. (spacex, tesla, starlink, x, neuralink, ...)
The media criticizes every step he does and reposts it daily. Yet he saves 2 astronauts, and its almost crickets everywhere unless you are looking for that specific news. Offcourse bashing/hatefull posts get more attention over positive news, and that might also have an big part of the (human) problem.  

On 12/10/2025 at 8:37 PM, Andrew Reid said:

Providing a five-year social media history to border agents may become a pre-condition to entry as part of the rise of fascism in America.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1dz0g2ykpeo

Crazy times, the UK lately has also been batshit crazy, now europe wants to introduce digital euro. Some politicians in Belgium wanted to approve an AI that scans all bank accounts of citizens to find frauds... 

I can't understand who finds this a good idea??

I wonder when the first comparison video's will turn up. Would love to see some side by sides. Not sure why there are 30 video reviews out there from people just talking about the camera without comparing it to other camera's. Specs on paper is one thing. but I want see comparision against other camera's (IQ, (crop or no crop), AF, stabilisation,...)
Still think the nikon zr got the rest beat IQ wise. But would love to see it perform against the R6III, nikon zr and the panasonic s1II. 

2 hours ago, hoodlum said:

Apparently, the A7V AF is struggling with 3rd party lenses.  When Sony was asked about the issue, their response as “We do no guarantee compatibility”.  Maybe Sony has dumbed down the AF for the 3rd party lenses.  Something to watch.  
 

 

Don't all sony cameras do this? 

I seem to be missing why this camera is so amazing, sure good update from the A7IV, but nothing groundbreaking. Or does anything to blow the competition out of the water.

Sell so did blackmagic. And the image from that camera is pretty amazing. Allthough I will never have an need anything above 4k.

Yeah I hope canon, sony or panasonic would just buy up ARRI just for its patents. Like Nikon did with RED (the nikon ZR looks amazing). If somebody would buy up ARRI and trickle down their patents in a 2K body they would own the filmmaker space and these camera's would fly off the shelves. (Event video etc might be a different game, where fast AF is more important, but heck these big 3 companies already have decent enough AF today as is). 

But sadly also a sign that the old ways of working is done for. AI will eat lunches, social media has killed traditional video jobs (artfull and skillfull). watching TV has declined, watching slop filmed with an iphone with crazy transitions and bad lighting has become the norm. (as it feels more real to the consumers, and I get that, but also sad to see jobs, careers and also art plummet). Even the actual movies that are being release over the last 15 yeras have been disneyfied. (cute animal, jokes, woke characters, ...) Not sure if anyone watched the new predator movie. The beginning of the film was great, and the ending was great, but man the middle part with bud, woke synthetics and the friendship arc just sucked. 

2 hours ago, Django said:

Yeah good move approaching indie RED shooters rather than your usual hybrid / YT influencer.

Great review with strong footage. More I think of it, ZR is the perfect travel cam, street shooter. 

Not for weddings/event videos you think? Looking for a faster setup. 

Yeah they should price the s1ii in the nikon zr ballpark. Or even less.. 

Now the canon r6 iii also seems pretty nice and even that camera is cheaper then the s1ii.. 

Nikon and canon are much more known and if the camera's somewhat similar people are choosing canon or nikon, just for the name alone.