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Haha, I think Jon has had discussions with his own posts arguing that the a7iii is better than the GH5. ?

Yeah, sorry... I meant does the Z7 downscale it’s 1080p from 4K in camera. If so, then the Ninja Star would still be a viable and small external recorder for anyone who only needs 1080p but wants the benefits of 10bit ProRes.

I love my 5D3 for video, actually I’m obsessed with it... seriously it could probably get a restraining order against me. ? But for street photos and casual photos, I think I’d rather have something a little smaller and more discreet. And if I’m going to even bother getting a second camera that will do both video and stills, I’d like it to have something that I can’t already get from my 5D3... IBIS and 4K are pretty important, but I may settle for 4K and DPAF. So, I’m hoping Canon will announce their FF mirrorless by Photokina or even an M5 Mark II with 4K could do I guess. I’d rather stay with Canon since I’m already invested in their lenses, I just doubt they’ll release a camera that has IBIS, 4K and DPAF. But as a video camera, you really can’t deny that the GH5 is spec’d out. I’m just not sold on it as a stills camera yet. But I’ve already gotten some good reviews from fellow members, so we’ll see.

Are you saying hindsight is rec2020?

I don’t think that behavior has anything to do with artistic types, probably quite the opposite.

But to add, I think we’re seeing the beginning of a new movement where photography and video pursuits are becoming entangled. I already see it so prevalently on IG and YT where people will do a photo shoot one week, then a short narrative film the next. The jobs of writer, director, photographer and cinematographer are melding together into this “content creator” moniker... at least for internet distribution. Instagram is becoming a mobile art gallery... YouTube is your local theatre and Vimeo Staff Pics is your Sundance. The next Spielberg will be discovered on IG... but to do that one needs content. You need to constantly create and upload. There’s not enough time in a day to solely do video. Now I’m not naive, or delusional, enough to think I’ll be the next Spielberg, or even have a career from any of this. But I enjoy it and there are a lot worse things I could be doing with my time and money.

Nothing but good spirit was taken from that comment. I post frame grabs because I don’t want to bore people with boring color grade test videos. So when I realized I could export frame grabs, I just started doing that instead of whole test videos and it saves rendering times. I like stills on a complete fun/hobbyist level, I like video because I am a screenwriter first and foremost, so stills have no real impact on that pursuit.

Well, after some recommendations, I took a look at the photo pool on Flickr and there were some nice shots but then out of curiosity I took a look at E-M5 Mark II and E-M1 Mark II photo pools and there was a night and day difference in favor of Olympus. I didn’t dig too deep, so the jury is still out but from what I saw, the GH5 stills looked like they were shot with a point and shoot compared to Olympus.

Jesus, Don watch the video. Maybe BM was exaggerating their claim with the BMCC. Who the hell knows? But Mattias’ video clearly shows how great the Nikon Flat Profile is. Check out his 5 reasons to Buy a D750... in the woods shot, with Gunpowder backlit by the setting sun, on most cameras, he would have been entirely silhouetted but the detail he pulled out on Gunpowder’s face just proves the DR capabilities of Nikon’s Flat Profile.

He was using the BMCC’s DR as a reference to show how the D750 was with the Nikon Flat Profile. No reason not to believe him, he has the images to prove it.

I think anything over 11 stops is acceptable for these cameras... if somebody needs more rent an Alexa. We’ll have to wait and see, but this camera seems to be a pretty nice hybrid. Good internal image when you need a small footprint or add a cage, a Ninja V and all the goodies when you need a higher FF output with a relatively small footprint. Right. I had a shooting day yesterday, so I haven’t been catching up, but is the 1080p a downscale from 4K? If so, 10bit 1080p ProRes to a Ninja Star sounds pretty okay to me.

Nikon Flat is very similar to Canon Log, so around 12 stops sounds plausible.

James Franco is a General? Interesting fella.

Yeah the Nikon Flat Profile is nuts and it’s in all of their newest model cameras... even the D3400 which can be bought for less than $300, with the kit lens, has the Flat Profile. The Z6 looks like a beast. However I still think the new lens mount was a tragic error.

@BTM_Pix nice shots! I particularly like the market shots and the interior is so good.

@Timotheus yeah I was talking about the G9, but that is one of the best features, IMO, of the GH series. I can’t tell you how many times I forgot to change the shutter speed for 60p when shooting for slow motion. It’s those little video features that make the GH5 a stand out for me, even if a Fuji may be a more logical choice for stills. But I just spent some time on Flickr and man those Fuji colors are just breathtaking.

Yeah degree angle instead of shutter speed. I figured it didn’t have that feature... not the end of the world, just curious. I won’t be in the market until the holidays so for the time being I may pick up a cheap, small Nikon or Canon to see how much I’ll end up shooting stills and then upgrade if I am serious about it. In the end, price may be the biggest factor.

Haha, no none of those apply to me. I am a beginner stills shooter and a hobbyist/enthusiast video shooter, which is why the GH5 seems like a good idea, I just wasn’t sure if it was so video oriented that there were some stills features that were left out or oddly implemented.

Yes, I was checking out the G9 a couple weeks ago and thought it looked great but then I saw a few things that annoyed me about it... I think it was 30p playback with HFR and the low bitrate 1080p. Everybody slams Canon for holding back features to protect their higher camera lines, but this all-i high bitrate 1080p omission from Panasonic is getting annoying. I love CineLikeD though and wouldn’t use vLog on the GH5 anyway. Does it have 180 degree shutter? That was one feature I loved with the FZ2500. But I have seen some good prices on open box models, so it may still be worth a look. Thanks.

The positive about the G85 for me is the 2.2x crop... my 1” 12.5mm c-mount lenses will cover the sensor. But you’re right, by the time the holidays come around, the GH5 could be selling for $1500 new so for the extra money, you are getting a lot more. Do you use a speedbooster with your GH5?

I loved the 24-70mm f/4. Sharp wide open with amazing IS. I swear the IS on that lens is as good as IBIS on the GX85. I also love the 35mm f/2... also with great IS. If you’re looking for a good prime, the 28mm 1.8 is a great lens. On the C100 it would be a fast 40-45mm... soo worth it and if you have steady hands, it can work handheld.

Yeah Canon is my Achilles Heel, so I am waiting to see what their FF mirrorless offers before I go out and buy a hybrid and also the M5 Mark II should be announced by Photokina, so that is on my radar as well. I guess IBIS isn’t a deal breaker, but when I had the GX85, it was the only thing I liked about the camera. The E-M5ii I briefly had was freakishly good. It was like having an invisible tripod with me. So, for video work alone, I would prefer it, but we’ll see. I have a shooting day tomorrow for my film, so it’s possible I’ll come home and be so happy that I’ll forget about a second camera... that’s why I’m thinking that maybe a cheaper Fuji or the G85 may suffice. I had the a6500 and although I really liked the camera I got an overheating warning in 45 degree Fahrenheit weather after shooting about 5 30sec clips. I returned it after that. Everything about the 6K mode interests me. I’d love to give anamorphic a try as well. I’ve been obsessed with stills on IG lately and although I can count the amount of photos I’ve taken with all of my appendages, I really love the craft and IQ one can get from stills. I don’t know if you go on IG, but Mattias has some breathtaking work on there amongst others and unlike video, it seems that there is a quicker satisfaction from stills than video. Did you ever get an E-M1 Mark II?

And that’s the Z6, maybe the Z7 will have 10bit internal. But all in all, it’s not too bad at all... I wonder if you can use a Ninja Star with it... that would still keep it small.

Thanks for the replies, I’ll post specific replies when I get home from work, but figure I’ll be shooting 60/40 video/stills. For video I plan on some small 1-3 minute narratives, some YT stuff (I may start a channel) and possibly some stock video... which is why the GH5 with its 4K 60p seems like a no brainer. For stills, I want to do mostly street photography but try to take a cinematic approach by shooting 1/50th shutter at all times in 16:9... just a thought. How clean are the blacks/shadows with the GH5 or X-H1 because I see myself doing a lot of B&W with it. @Jonesy Jones I believe Sage has a free version of his LUTS for CineLikeD if you wanted to give it a try. Sage’s GH5a is one of the reasons the GH5 is even on my radar. Plus I have been obsessed with the looks they’ve been getting on Fear the Walking Dead this season. They are doing some crazy good B&W with some interesting color desaturation. If you haven’t seen it, check it out. The thing is, I don’t want to go too crazy because the 5D3 is going to see the brunt of my work and this new camera will be something I keep with me in my car, or family outings. I am just too happy with what I’ve been getting with ML Raw so I am a little hesitant to even get another camera because I am afraid it won’t see as much use... here’s a couple B&W shots I processed the other day... So maybe a G85 or X-E3/X-T20 would make more sense for my situation. Anybody use those cameras for stills?

I don’t think the X-H1 has zebras, but I don’t use them anyway, so it doesn’t much matter. Also for what I’m going to use it for, I probably won’t use Auto ISO either, but maybe I did like it with Nikon and Sony. Thanks, I looked at some photos on IG and they looked fine, I just wasn’t sure if there were some quirks about the Raw files or something I should be aware of.