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Canon XC10 versus Sony RX10 III. The Canon is underrated!
mercer replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Anyone feel free. This looks good. You were able to bring the hazy blue out of the sky... That's what I'm attempting this morning. -
Actually, I just bought the XC10, love it. And I was saying that I need to sit down and really learn color grading the correct way, because my attempts thus far has been just dabbling and poking at it. Some people are naturals at it, I am not one of those people. And here is my first attempts at grading c-log. I don't love either of them but I can tell I really like c-log. Anyway, I should have a few minutes to watch the rest of your short today... Am looking forward to it.
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I didn't know much about the af100 until recently. I know it gets a bad rap around here, but some of the videos I've seen with it look great and they can be had for 800 bucks or less now. The whole festival game is so hit and miss. My friend is a festival director at a small fest and he has told me they will accept lesser shorts due to their shorter run time before they will take better longer shorts. A lot of politics and scheduling.
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I also just started messing with mojo a little as well. And you're right the sliders are pretty nice.
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Canon XC10 versus Sony RX10 III. The Canon is underrated!
mercer replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Feel free to give it a go... I'd like to see what you can do with it. -
I'm using Color Finale in FCPX, color wheels to balance the color, and curves... Master curve for exposure... Usually a slight s curve and then I will tweak the RGB curves a little as well.
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Very cool. I had my first day with my XC10 today. I am so bad at color though. Also don't forget the simplest of canon profiles... ProLost Flat.
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Canon XC10 versus Sony RX10 III. The Canon is underrated!
mercer replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
So I had a good run with the camera today and I am pretty pleased with it. The 5-Axis is almost steady cam level... Not quite because I don't want to over play it, but I was able to track with my actor pretty darn well. Here's my first attempt at trying to color some c-log... And here is my graded version. -
Some people don't get the stupid on purpose concept. When in actuality, if someone told you it was kinda dumb, it would kinda be a compliment. I thought the acting was pretty decent too. Of course the main character is annoying, but again that's the point. Napoleon Dymamite was annoying too and that movie made a ton. I'll tell you what, everybody rags on Canon, but the t2i's image still holds up. I actually thought you used something higher end, like an af100 or something. Of course, I just picked up an XC10, and am drooling over a c100 I saw on eBay, so I have a rekindled love for Canon right now.
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That's a whole lotta camera for $800 though. I know there are some mixed reactions for the AF100 on this site, but I have seen some beautiful videos made with it.
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Good on you. I am a writer first but I hate sitting down to write. I watched the extended tease to your Carte Blanche film a few weeks ago. It looks good, reminds me of something from the mumblecore movement... Not to pigeonhole it, it just felt reminiscent of that. Btw, If you really like Kendy Ty's video look, he sells the picture profile he developed for his t2i on his website. Oh yeah, what camera did you shoot Carte Blanche with?
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Btw, that video link doesn't work. Yeah, I did. But I am gonna buy another one. 100 euro will be tight for that lens, but you can probably find one.
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Canon XC10 versus Sony RX10 III. The Canon is underrated!
mercer replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
I came upon this XC10 video, on YouTube, a few days back and it was one of the deciding factors for me to hit buy. -
That's awesome. My newest quest for my perfect camera was born from watching some Kendy Ty videos and seeing what he does with so little. My first camera was a t2i, so had already been there and wanted to try something new. My original plan was to get a D5500 and use basically only my 28mm f2 Nikkor... One of my favorite lenses of all time. My real motivation was a simple 1080p set up that shot clean 24p and 60p. When I was about ready to buy it, I started seeing videos from the micro and thought... Well for only a little more I can get a micro and shoot raw. As I have said before... It's a great camera but not for me. So here I am, I may still pick up that D5500 because I need a camera to fulfil my lens obsession.
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I'm not gonna lie, I've only had time to watch part 1. But I found it as a whole... charismatic in a goofy kind of way. It reminds me of cheesy 80s movies that were cheesy on purpose. Maybe even an unseen film by Savage Steve Holland... Director of Better off Dead and One Crazy Summer. I'll give a more thorough review when I get a chance to watch both parts. But so far, so good. I know exactly the tone you're going for and appreciate that kind of film. Makes me feel like a kid again. Just for context, did you write, direct, shoot and edit it?
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Yup, that's why I bought the XC10. I almost went with G40, just to go real old school, but the bigger sensor, 4K and c-log is worth the extra $700. We did the same kind of stuff. My buddy is just finishing editing an epic he shot on an old Sony miniDV and an HV20. He started shooting it over a decade ago and then life happened, and production slowed up. But the point is all of the footage I've seen from it looks fantastic. Point being in the end, a filmmaker can tell a story with any camera and it is very cool to see so many options around.
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Canon XC10 versus Sony RX10 III. The Canon is underrated!
mercer replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Nah, you've been most helpful... One may say you're even a little more than semi terrific. Seriously though, I really appreciate your help. This is why I comment so much at this forum... It's filled with helpful filmmakers with a passion for the craft, both technically and creatively. -
Canon XC10 versus Sony RX10 III. The Canon is underrated!
mercer replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Ha, I clicked down to the native ISO and never even tried going lower than 500... Now I know I can't. Really great info here. I only used it for about an hour or two, but even with my short time with it, I already remember that fun feeling it was to shoot with my t2i or eos-m... For that alone it's great. @Mattias Burling has a few good review videos of the XC10 and I remember being impressed with the Wide DR as well. A lot to ingest... Looks like I have some work ahead of me... The fun kind. Thanks again, I may pop into this thread with more questions though... Hope you don't mind? -
I know, my purchases are getting out of hand. This time last year I couldn't dream of affording an XC10, no matter how much I wanted one. And then on my quest for my perfect camera and lenses, I acquired enough gear to resell for enough money to afford it this year... It's my own weird savings account. But now, I still have a bunch of lenses to sell and I still need a good interchangeable lens camera. I'll probably just get an Alexa next year... Seriously though, I am probably leaning towards the GX85 for my interchangeable lens camera, but I'm gonna wait and see what Canon releases at Photokina. One of my favorite things about my first outing with the XC10 for a couple hours yesterday was it reminded me of the good old days with Canon, so I'm intrigued to see what the new eos-m4 will bring, plus the rumored full frame mirrorless that Canon is supposed to release.
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Canon XC10 versus Sony RX10 III. The Canon is underrated!
mercer replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
@tomsemiterrific I have read that some users of the XC10 use the native 500 ISO, even in full daylight, to get the cleanest image, when possible. Have you noticed this to be true? Yesterday, I really needed some added ND in this bright summer sun we've been getting this year in the Northeast, but I imagine the built in ND may have sufficed at the lowest ISO... Especially with this lens, which seems to be a couple zooms in one... A 24-70mm f/4, a 75-240mm f/5.6 or a 24-240mm f/5.6, and then ride the ISO or fader ND for exposure. It took me a few minutes to get the hang of it, but for run and gun it seems it could be the best way to utilize it? -
@PannySVHS Thanks for the kind words. That was the last video I did before I realized I knew absolutely nothing about "proper" video production. Sometimes I think it was better knowing nothing and trusting my gut, than the little I know now. "The girl is a woman and would spank Bobby´s tush if he would say "This is this and that is that".:)" HAHAHAHAHA!!!! "You... You." Man you are the best. Seriously, you have one of the best attitudes on this forum and are a laugh riot. I always look forward to your posts!!! As Matthew McConaughey said the last time we hung out shirtless... "Keep on keepin' on."
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I would pay to see it.
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Canon XC10 versus Sony RX10 III. The Canon is underrated!
mercer replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Thanks a lot. This is extremely helpful... And just because I post a lot here, just means I have too much time on my hands. Ha. Actually, I am here to learn and get better, so I appreciate the detailed response. Thanks again... I love this little camera. -
Canon XC10 versus Sony RX10 III. The Canon is underrated!
mercer replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Hey Toms, I just received my XC10 a couple days ago and had my first go with it yesterday. Since you seem pretty experienced with it and c-log, I have a question or two you may be able to help me with. You seem to appreciate the 4K coming out of this camera... Why wouldn't you... It's gorgeous. But as Andrew's review states, the 1080p is some of the best around with some added features like the 5-Axis ibis and auto functions. So, with that being said, I edit only in 1080p, is it better to shoot with the more robust codec of the 4K and convert to 1080p before I edit, or just shoot in 1080p? Also, I am new to c-log, and I thought you were supposed to ETTR c-log, but with my zebras set to 100, most ETTRd footage ended up overexposed without the latitude to pull it back down in post. ETTC consistently looked good, but I don't want to limit my DR if there is a better way... Any tips?