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Idk, if I had that kind of money and needed/wanted 4K, I would probably go with one of the Blackmagic Cameras... probably the BM 4K Production camera... or maybe the new Terra and then I would put the rest of my camera budget into my short/feature production budget because you'll always need more... or maybe even rent the camera for the narrative and commercial work and then buy a C100ii for your bread and butter work. But to be honest, if you can't make a good narrative short on the C100ii, you probably can't make a good short. Have you considered 5D mk iii ml raw for a short? Honestly one of the most beautiful images I have ever seen.

I have owned a butt load of cameras over the past year and a half and IMO, for a small budget narrative, nothing beats the BMPCC. With the right lens and prores, I think you can get a really filmic image. I think the next step up is the 5d Mk iii... so you should be good. The next step up after that would be the Digital Bolex. Otherwise, buy a Krasnogorsk or old Bolex and shoot S16mm film.

That looks great, man. Which camera did the hanger shot and what lens? Also, was that all c-log?

Cool, I saw they were on sale the other day. The original without the DPAF is $1799... so cheap. Btw, I heard the benefit of the c100 with an external recorder is imperceptible.

Very cool, Tim. The imagery and energy are great. I half expected to see Brad Pitt pop up while simultaneously planning and performing a heist... and slapping his kid...

I think we'd have to take a poll to decide which cameras made it into the poll.

Basically the Nikon Flat Profile is the best picture profile I have ever worked with. I actually like the 1080p from the D5500 better than I like C-Log... and I really, really like C-Log. The blacks are clean and even when there is noise, it's very organic. If it wasn't for the crop factor in the D500, I would have already owned one. But Nikon cameras aren't the most video friendly, but the image is worth it.

How about a mark iv or the Nikon d500 or the Fuji x-t2?

Thanks Jim, that would be great. I watched a few of your mk iii videos on Vimeo. They look amazing. I have the 50d and don't mind the workflow, but that camera is so limited and you really have to take care that it doesn't overheat, but great imagery nonetheless.

My reasoning doesn't have to do with the ghosting issue at all. I was happy with the results I was getting from C-Log, I just miss my lenses too much and I cannot afford two expensive cameras. Plus, it seems the price of the XC10 is dropping rather quickly on the used market.

It's a shame too, because the XC10, seems like it should be a great event camera, but without lowlight capabilities, it's use becomes a little limited. I am definitely selling mine, I just need to decide what to replace it with. I was thinking about going the D500 route, but I think I will wait until they up some of their video functions and the 4K funnels down into their lesser models. So now I have to decide between the X-T2 or a 5D mk iii. Since I only work on narratives, the mk iii seems like the better choice.

I would go with the Nikon D750 instead of a Canon, unless you are shooting Raw, or using a 70D or 80D for the DPAF.

Thanks, I really like the L-Monochrome profile. I used it with everything dialed down and the orange filter. I underexposed most of the shots by about a stop, which was probably a mistake, but it turned out okay. More tests.

I was messing around with some B&W yesterday using the L-Monochrome profile.

I have both of those cameras... But I agree that the GX85 for it's price is a great narrative tool. I am kinda glad I haven't sold it. Up to $500, I think the D5500 is really good. The XC10 is a great camera, but I think a 5d mkiii with ML (especially with current developments) is the better pick.

I thought it could be fun and informational to get some thoughts about what cameras are good for narrative filmmaking at different price points. • Up to $500 • $500 - $1000 • $1000 - $1500 • $1500 - $2000 • $2000 - $3000 • $3000 - $5000 • $5000 - $10,000 • $10,000 and above... Obviously, most of us believe that a great film could be shot on a used EOS-M for a hundred bucks, if the idea and filmmaking is good, but I am curious to hear, from a technical standpoint, what everybody thinks is the best at those price points?

@hyalinejim, those look great, love the first grab and the fence. I can't really put my finger on it, but the XC10 has such a cool modern, yet vintage look to it's video. Ben, someone may have asked you this already, did you use manual exposure or shutter priority for this and the other video you posted?

I would even add that it may depend on the school you attend. In the US, you will, generally, make better connections from NYU, Columbia, Northwestern, USC, UCLA, etc... than you may get from a state school in the Midwest.

Yeah that acros is gorgeous and the 4K almost has a raw quality.

That's a good price for the A6500. I haven't owned a Sony since the A5100, which I liked... especially for its size. I've been slowly moving everything to Nikon and contemplating getting the D500. I've seen a few comparisons between the A6500 and the D500 and to my eyes I like the D500's 4K better, but that camera has a heavy crop as well. The GX85 is an awesome camera. I've been saying I was going to sell it since I bought it, but still hold onto it for its run and gun... ability. However I have one final test to do, if it passes I will keep it for a while to make a short with it, if it fails, I will sell it and go all in with Nikon. BTW, that 20mm is an awesome lens. You could do worse than that combo.

Yeah, that is the word on the street. I haven't personally done the math but all reports confirm it is 2.2x. In that video it may be a little more because I use e-stabilizer as well.

Looks pretty good. I was using the Prolost Neutral settings that were popular for Canon DSLRs... for Panasonic maybe it's Prolost Natural... But basically turn contrast, sharpening and noise reduction all the way down and then saturation half way. I did not touch the curves or iDynamic. Where did you notice a benefit with iDynamic? I also started shooting everything at 4400 Kelvin. I found it was a good all around WB number that worked better than AWB, but still gave me the leeway to correct/push either way in post without too much effort. I've posted this before, but it gives you a quick idea of my results. I colored it with FilmConvert... I have been going through a lot of my equipment and deciding what to keep and sell. Every time I think I am definitely selling the GX85, I'll pick it up and the floaty image brings me back to it. I am primarily a hobbyist with a few short/feature film ideas I'd like to work on in the next year. Each film has its own look and needs, so I have been testing and testing a bunch of cameras. One of my ideas is a B&W project, with my preliminary tests, the GX85's L-Monochrome is excellent... so much so I have ordered the Rokinon 12mm cine lens (I'm done with lens adapters) to give the GX85 one last test to see if it would be a good option for this upcoming project. Anyway, I love seeing the results the members of the forum are getting with this camera!!!

I don't know, I think it has been pretty self evident and proven by Ben, kidz, Lintel and others that the XC10 isn't a low light camera but it EXCELS in C-Log at or near base ISO. Fighting that seems pointless when the results are so amazing. Should these issues be addressed by Canon... Yes! This is not a $500, or less, camera.

Yeah the ai/ai-s lenses will meter on every model over and including the D7200. For a while I was planning on just getting the D7200 for the extra exposure tools, but a new D7200 body is $1000. Since I am selling most of my lenses for other systems and most of my cameras... pretty much all of them, I have a little extra money so I was thinking about either the D750 or most likely the D500 for the option of 4K. I've seen a lot of comparison videos online and IMO the Nikon beats out the A6300, and the GH4 in their respective basic settings. I don't love the 4K crop of the D500, but I can make it work when I need 4K. With the added benefit of eVR in 1080p, the D500 seems like a good fit for me. But I have one final test to do with my GX85 before I make my final decision. If the GX85 passes this test, with flying colors, I may just end up getting the D7200... they sell for $750 refurbished. As I said before, I've contemplated getting some of the 1.8G lenses, but I love the ai/ai-s lenses I already own and see no need or desire in replacing them with modern, focus by wire equivalents, just so I can use the meter with the D5500.

Which Nikon camera do you have?