Andrew Reid

Firmware 2.0 for the Panasonic GH5 has been officially announced, and will be available for download at the end of September 2017. I've been testing a pre-production version of this on my camera thanks to Panasonic, to bring you my first impressions of the new features which include: Professional 400Mbit ALL-I intraframe codec for 10bit 4K 4:2:2 "Open Gate" High Resolution Anamorphic Mode (4992 x 3744) Hybrid Log Gamma with view assist feature for HDR shooting New and improved autofocus engine for video Performance optimisations and bug fixes Read on to find out what it's like to shoot with...

Except it's run by a bunch of extremely rich guys who work full time in the film industry, and choose to give nothing back for free - it must be for a profit at all times!

JCS, why do you think this health advice is relevant for a camera forum? It's getting hard for threads about creativity and gear to be waylaid like this almost every time with your new age philosophies. Please let's try and stay on topic.

CInema5D lost more credibility with the forum sale to Planet5D and the GH5 'unusable' test than with this particularly piece of clickbait. But what will really bury Cinema5D is the lack of focus on enthusiasts, it's almost all pro stuff on there. I'm glad, less competition for me.

I don't find this to be the case. The GH5 does both stills and video while getting out the way. It's seamless, and far more convenient to use than a cinema camera. It has auto-exposure, a button to start recording, a very long run-time on one small battery and goes in the palm of your hand. Not so a highly specialised RED Epic which is heavy, requires a brick for a battery, has no point & shoot modes or full auto and needs specialised knowledge to use.

I'm joking guys.

And a far better raw codec than Canon as well! Also real DPs don't use AF!

Where are YOU going to get 10bit 4K 4:2:2 LOG and 180fps slow-mo for $6000? Not Canon!

The individual is always susceptible to crowd forces, cultures, peer pressure, society norms, and so on. It's completely unrealistic, sadly, for individuals to act as individuals, self determining the destiny of the planet from individualistic change. The change should happen with the forces that shape the crowd.

Magic Lantern's raw looks to me to have the edge, it has more bit depth, better colour rendering and all for the bargain price of $0.

Look at the codec on the GH5. It's laughable what Canon is offering for triple the money!

It's more of a marketing thing than a principle... The purity of the camera as an artistic photography tool is tainted when you put modern stuff like video and wifi on it. And the association most 'purist / traditional' photographers make with video is that video is something you do with an iphone, point and shoot, or something you do with a film crew at an extremely high level that has nothing to do with being a lone photographer / artist... So they don't feel it has a place on a traditional photographic tool like the Leica M, and I totally understand that, right tool for the job, etc. However for me it's nice to have on even the most photography focused body... Even if you'd be crazy to pick an M for video over a SL or GH5... It is the convergence of stills and video that is the future for me, more than the segmentation of tools into pro stills cameras and pro video cameras.

Leica removed video from the M10 due to photographers complaining. Old men huh!?

Yeah saw the 1D C, it has been on their website for ages and still not sold... It's a grade C so probably not in very good condition, but for £1850 you should definitely investigate.

I have banned Evgeny's two accounts for trolling.

Amazing stuff. Have you considered a second career in animal training?

Seems there is internal disagreement at Canon about how far to push the codec upgrade, or even just not upgrading it at all, despite having said they would. Poor form!

Yes, once the next firmware is out, so will the guide follow a few weeks after!

This is the kind of extreme reaction that doesn't help the situation, it just fans the flames. I respect Jon's effort here, he's been a regular poster for nearly as long as I have, he has helped for countless days keep the forum in good shape, approve comments from new users, keep tabs on troublesome ones and keep away the spambots. He has posted his creative stuff, tests, Panasonic stuff especially, and there is no need for me to question his role at all. Don't forget there are 5 mods in total, it's not just Jon with all the power... jgharding,andylee,mtheory and me Maybe I should just remove the role of mod entirely and do it all myself if it is going to cause trouble... Either that, or people need to chill the fuck out. Sure, I agree Ed has had his moments of poor form, contrary opinions, argumentative positions, politics we may not agree with, and so on. It would be a boring forum if we all nodded in agreement with one another though! So by all means, we should argue, we should have it out on one-another, we should mow down bad ideas and criticise, but when all the competitive sport is said and done there should be some time left for the pub. BTW Ed has completely edited the OP Read it again, and it makes more sense. I think we are free to discuss B&H's ethical behaviour and lawsuits. As long as it is based on the facts and both sides of the story are heard and we don't go into vitriolic territory.

I am a bit disappointed because this thread has turned into an Ed vs everyone else situation, and yes some of it is his fault, but c'mon... http://www.eddaviddp.com Some superb work on here. And he has been using this forum for a very long time. I will miss him if he chooses to leave permanently. So whatever differences you guys forming a mob may have with him, this isn't the place to get personal and hound someone out. It was poor form from Ed, but there's no need to force a guy to back out of the forum permanently and completely overlook what he shoots and what he contributes.

Nope, Panasonic was first with affordable 4K. Sony was first with 1080/60p.... And that was affordable too. Nikon have always been a laggard, ever since the D90 they have lagged in video. They are still lagging now even with the D850.

Yes but really they were only first once out of about 20,000 lost opportunities. And when they were first, they screwed it up and left Canon to capitalise on video for about 5 years, creating the conditions for an entire new business (Cinema EOS) for their most competitive rival. So hardly a stunning performance from Nikon, me thinks Nice post though.

First, but crap! No, that was Canon with the 1D C. No, again that was Canon (1D C and 1D X) Except it doesn't work properly!

Canon's brand in photography is getting known for being behind on technology and too conservative. I can completely understand the business / customer / support reasons for not having raw video on a DSLR. But as a gesture of goodwill they should release a development platform camera for enthusiasts, which has a full SDK supplied with it on digital media, an open OS for Magic Lantern to fully develop the functionality, and to make features like raw video bullet proof reliable. And Canon's consumer division will NOT offer support for it. It's supplied as-is and not sold in regular shops to regular Joes. It would take minimum effort for Canon to do this and reap HUGE PR rewards, but they won't do it because A) not imaginative enough and B) it isn't a billion dollars of sales to pros.

I suppose it solves the problem of the stills camera part, as the D850 can do things, with nicer ergonomics, that a mirrorless camera can't on the stills front - optical viewfinder, 45MP, best AF system in the world from D5, all in one body... Add on video we already have on the A99 II, tweak the colour science and skintones to Nikon's taste, add flat profile instead of S-LOG, making the footage easier to grade, and you have reasons to buy it... but a lot of reasons not to as well, for example the fact the GH5 exists and soon probably the A7S3!