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Damn, that's unfortunate. Maybe they blame the Angry Photographer for their divorce. They went at each other hard some years ago very publicly with non tech related personal stuff.

You forgot Chris and Jordan LOL

R5C as its name and form factor suggest is a true hybrid. Not sure C50 is. Could be wrong of course but I have a feeling the stills side is going to be very limited, not to cannibalise R line.. or they could go the FX2 route which definitely cannibalises A7IV.

Well bcuz it would join the R5C as being the only two cams in Canon's cinema line to offer video and photo features - which is basically what a cam needs to offer to be considered hybrid, no? But also, as someone who has two R5Cs I wouldn't be interested in it if it didn't offer video/photo capabilities.

Don't forget the A7SIII/FX3 is actually a 48MP quad-bayer sensor binned to 12MP for increased low light and low rolling shutter. Canon could be up to a similar trick here.

Sure, but if it's not at all hybrid, it's kind of a weird decision to put in a 7K sensor and downsample from it vs just using a native 6K sensor. It's not to say that they wouldn't, just that it'd be a little weird. Similarly, the A7SIII/FX3 are both 12 megapixel stills cameras. While you can find some stills photographers who don't mind 24, a lot more who are OK with 33, and the vast majority are OK with 45. You're really not going to find many who will accept 12.

How is this marketed as a hybrid when its C line and the teaser today show it on sticks with a top handle on a film set? For all we know this won't even do stills like all the other Cxx/Cxxx. That would be ultimate cripple hammer lol. This is clearly an FX3 competitor and the FX3 isn't much of a hybrid. It can take stills but it's cumbersome compared to the A7Siii. The absence of an EVF and possibly mech shutter will damper most serious photogs. Another thing to consider is the absence of IBIS, that would be a big mistake imo but Canon took it off the R5C and no C line camera has it. Also just saw the teaser on Instagram, it adds "Open your World" another hint towards open gate!

I'd agree with @eatstoomuchjam as this seems to be marketed as a hybrid cinema/photo cam so totally catering to the R5 MKIIs video/photo demo. As someone who has owned an R5 and currently has two R5Cs - personally, I was hoping the C50 would be the best of both pro cinema video and pro photo worlds with a footprint smaller than the R5Cs (closer to the R50V) - bcuz then it could also become my everyday walk around cam. But if it isn't I'd prob just bite the bullet and pick up a used R50V which are finally starting to show up on FB marketplace and kijiji.

The new camera is coming out at a similar price point to the R5 II and I know several people who bought R5 series cameras primarily for video work. I'd be glad to be wrong about this one, of course. And as Django pointed out, they might go e-shutter only which would be likely to turn off a lot of photographers. Of course, if RS is <10ms, that might un-turn off some of them. Speaking for myself, the biggest question is whether it would have DGO. I would take 33 megapixels with 2 extra stops thanks to DGO over 45 megapixels. OLPF might also be a thing that would push it more to the strictly video side of things, but if it had one and between DGO and OLPF, it had an image like the C70, but in a smaller body with better low-light performance and more reliable AF, it might be in the rare category of cameras that I'd be excited enough to buy new as opposed to waiting 6-12 months for them to get a 10% price drop on the used market...

Why do you think an R5ii would be more at risk, when they cater for completely different market. The R5ii gives you a premium photo camera experience, while this one would be more for videographers that might occasionally shoot some photos.

Bring back the C100 design. One of my favorite cameras I've ever used from a pure ergonomic standpoint. Enough of the modified DSLR bodies for video centric cameras.

R5II is still mainly a photography camera with its 45MP, ergonomics and eye-AF control EVF. It has great video specs but no fan, line skipped 4K60p.. I'd imagine the C50 would have limited stills, maybe e-shutter only, no EVF, cine OS.. not to cannibalise R5ii.

The C80 has internal ND and there's almost no way this one does, based on the size. C80 also has XLR, SDI, and about a bazillion buttons that this one doesn't. On paper, the R5C had a number of advantages over the C70, including better AF and 8K shooting. But it also lacked internal ND, XLR, etc. If I were Canon, I'd honestly be a lot more concerned about sales of the R5 II than the C80/C400 if this camera has most of the rumored specs. Especially if it has a DGO sensor, I'd gladly take that over 8K recording and 10-15 more megapixels for still photos.

You're right, 6K and open gate. But even without mentioning the crippled hammer, Canon has always been careful not to cannibalize its own products. Can a C50 be better than its sisters in the cinema line?

Me too, so no one should be calling that thing a box camera.

pretty sure its fixed.. a la FX3.

Oh sorry, I wasn't clear, I meant the side grip. The thing that looks very much part of the camera and very much not a box.

Multi aspect ratio delivery is increasingly common so open gate would be a god send not to mention it opens up anamorphic for higher end cine duties. Of course its detachable..

The rumor that was highlighted said it was "optional" which would absolutely imply detachable. 6K vs 4K, internal raw, and rumored DGO sensor would all be better on a spec sheet. But it's also true that we're in a time of decreasing returns. The FX3 is a great camera. It makes a good image, can work with very little light, has fantastic autofocus, and it's small/portable. Everything about it is absolutely enough for the vast majority of current productions. You could just as easily respond that you don't care about 6K, raw, or an extra stop or two of dynamic range and you'd be absolutely correct. On the other hand, Canon has lost a lot of their video production market share and they need something that they can point to when current users say they want something like an FX3, and ideally a little better than the FX3 so that their users still feel good buying Canon stuff.

Open Gate alone is a major game changer. 6K RAW / 32MP stills make it a serious upgrade for hybrid duties. Now stuff like triple-base ISO / DGO sensor & NDs would make it epic but I still doubt that'll happen. That said if you're happy with FX3 or locked into Sony, see this as more pressure on them to up the ante on FX3 II.

Still I don't see an edge on a 5 years old FX3. What I'm missing? Maybe RAW? FX3 files edit like butter

"Box-style design" does not align with what I am looking at. Either there are two different cameras, or some marketing genius decided to just call it what people want and hope no one notices. Edit: Or--and I'm really stretching here--that handle is detachable. Which would be really cool and I would take back all of my snide categorization criticisms.

Considering the rumored specs there is no way it was going to be R50V size! The XLR top handle aligns with the leaked info: Compact Box-Style Design: Aluminium alloy body construction, weather-sealed; active cooling fan for unlimited recording; weight ~650g (body only); RF mount with EF adapter support. TBA: Optional electronic viewfinder (EVF) attachment (5.76M-dot OLED); 3.2-inch vari-angle touchscreen LCD (2.1M-dot). Ports and Storage: Dual card slots (CFexpress Type B + SD UHS-II); full-size HDMI 2.1; USB-C 3.2; XLR audio inputs via optional top handle; Wi-Fi 6E, Bluetooth 5.3; Ethernet via adapter.

If that's the C50, it looks bigger than I thought. I was thinking it would be closer to the R50V in size.

So now we know there aren't XLR on the body itself, but we also know that Canon are releasing a first-party XLR hotshoe adapter (maybe it'll be backward-compatible with R5C/R5 II, etc).