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To be honest, I really want one. I'll wait for it to come down to 3500 euros used, then I think i'll sell some stuff and pounce on it. The main weakness of the a7r V and Panasonic S1R II - the slower sensors and rolling shutter, is banished. The 1.2x crop in 8K isn't ideal though. Specs: https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-a7r-vi-review

@mercer Canon just released the R6V, which is somewhere between the R6III and C50. Another option to consider...

Yeah, some pretty nice looking images from that lens. Realistically, on a consumer camera without RAW or Prores, the codecs are potentially going to be the limiting factor more often than the lens. I'm easy to please though, as my aesthetic leans towards the analog and emotive rather than the person building a personal database of all image sharpening techniques ever created.

It won't feature Ibis, probably, if they are about to keep the size. I could live with that.

I'm optimistic about it, but there are no guarantees. Also, if it has an MFT mount it might be more expensive rather than cheaper, you never know.

Any chance they're putting this out with a lens mount (and a little more affordable)?

I searched for "LX100" instead of "Landscape" and it seemed to work, with most shots meeting the criteria...

Well, they just launched the Canon R6V, so I hope Panasonic enjoyed their 20 hours of PR!

Turns out I didn’t dream it. https://www.shutterdial.com However, what I did dream )or maybe they’ve removed the function) was that you could search by specific camera on addition to the focal length/aperture.

Ah, I guess that makes sense if it's based on lens coverage. At least there's OIS in the lens!

I may have dreamt this but either in Flickr itself or an external site that used it’s data, you were able to search by EXIF so you could look at the extremes of the lens range and in this case it would be to display all LX100 images at 24mm f1.8 and 70mm f2.8 which was a more informative way to do it. People can fuck up the composition and the processing but even they struggle to overcome the physics. Welcome to episode two of the series! Fixed. The EIS is an additional crop as far as I can recall.

This is less of a devil in the details than it might seem at first. Recording 4:2:0 in 6K (or nearly 6K) is going to be a lot closer to the quality of 4:4:4 when that footage is dropped on a 4K timeline. Long GOP only in those modes is not ideal, but it is a compact camera. Is that a moving 85% of the sensor? As in, does that allow turning on EIS without any additional crop?

Looks decent. Finally a small camera that isn't arbitrarily locked to 100Mbps (or 200Mbps if you're lucky) IPB codecs. I always wondered if the small form-factor would influence how much processing they could fit into it, or even IF the size influenced the processing at all.

So there are indeed some details in the video specs that will be of note to some. Internal RecordingH.264/H.265/MOV/MPEG-4 AVC 4:2:0 8/10-Bit 5674 x 2988 at 23.98/24.00/25/29.97/47.95/48.00/50/59.94 fps (200 to 300 Mb/s) 5184 x 3888 up to 23.98/24.00/25/29.97 fps (200 Mb/s) 4352 x 3264 up to 47.95/50/59.94 fps (300 Mb/s) 4096 x 2160 at 23.98/24.00/25/29.97/47.95/50/59.94/100/120 fps (100 to 300 Mb/s) 3840 x 2160 at 23.98/24.00/25/29.97/47.95/50/59.94/100/120 fps (70 to 300 Mb/s) 1920 x 1080 at 23.98/24.00/25/29.97/47.95/50/59.94/100/120/200/240 fps (16 to 200 Mb/s) H.264 ALL-Intra/MPEG-4 AVC 4:2:2 10-Bit 4096 x 2160 at 23.98/24.00/25/29.97/47.95/50/59.94 fps (400 to 600 Mb/s) 3840 x 2160 at 23.98/24.00/25/29.97/47.95/50/59.94 fps (400 to 600 Mb/s) 1920 x 1080 at 23.98/24.00/25/29.97/47.95/50/59.94/100/120 fps (200 to 400 Mb/s) Interesting to note that Panasonic have sidestepped the Micro HDMI bleating by just fucking it off altogether. Although it was playback only on the original anyway.

Like. Subscribe. True. I was referring to a fictional interchangeable lens version in the future, but for this one it seems like they've compensated for this in their menus as the focal lengths seem to all be in FF equivalents: I very much doubt anyone shooting with a zoom will be terribly fastidious about shooting with exactly 35mm (and not 40mm) but I could be wrong, and the ability to set that zoom switch to preset focal lengths will certainly encourage people to stick to exact settings. Absolutely. Although TBH unless you're shooting professionally (which this isn't the camera for) or doing something really specific (like shooting green-screens) then a downsampled and lesser codec is still in the realm of being passable for most purposes. Especially with software like Resolve bringing all kinds of processing within reach. I must admit that I find judging image quality from other peoples images to be almost impossible as you're likely just seeing average images of the most incredible scenes. I remember back in the early days of digital when almost all photos were completely rubbish but there was always one or two photos you shot that looked magical because the light was just right and the scene happened to make a great composition or the scene was rubbish and the colour profile was also rubbish but they happened to collide in a way that is creatively interesting. Unfortunately for me, that means when judging lenses I either have to replicate that focal length / aperture combination on my existing equipment or just buy the damned thing to understand what it's like to actually use!

What an absolute gem Looks like a real winner and very brave move because this will absolutely tank G9 II sales. As a G9 II owner, very happy with the GH7 sensor - I'm excited for this. Especially with it able to shoot 5K, although it does look to be the 2.2x crop variety rather than the oversized multi-aspect approach it goes for under-sized multi-aspect approach. That lens on the LX100 has always been the best compact camera 24-70mm equivalent. bar none though, so I'm not too bothered! If instagram crowd still go for a Canon G7X II after this comes out they want their heads seeing to.

The Leica variants of the Panasonic cameras like the RX100 always hold their value far, far better so the initial premium that you pay is offset somewhat when you sell it. Join me next time for another episode of “Flimsy Justifications I Present To My Wife When Buying Cameras”. The good thing about a fixed lens camera is that you can just forget about all of that. What you’ve got is what you’ve got. When the full spec for the L10 comes out then I would look for some devil in the detail regarding this as well in the video modes. I saw something regarding it being 4.2.0 in some modes and 4.2.2 in others for example. Not sure about numbers but the Flickr pool for the LX100/ii should give you plenty of visuals to evaluate it. As with most pools on Flickr for older cameras I’d recommend going back to closer to the end and working forward as the advent of faster internet has led to a proliferation of any old shit being uploaded. People were a lot more selective ten years ago 😂 https://www.flickr.com/groups/dmc-lx100/pool/with/55214982443

Cool camera. I literally did an ISO test on my GX85 less than an hour ago and was calculating what ISO/lens combos I could get away with for shooting street at night. I love my GH7 but the size of the GX85 keeps quietly calling to me. I see it as a fun little camera for photography with some cool video capabilities. I also see it as an incredible sign we're likely to get a new small interchangeable-lens MFT camera, although maybe the form-factor would be a bit small for including IBIS, so we'll have to see if the size gets a bump. I also see if as a fantastic sign that I missed the announcement completely as the only video in my feed about it was from Micro Four Nerds, so that's an encouraging sign about the amount of professional camera YouTubers I subscribe to! I'd go even further than @BTM_Pix about the crop-factor and say it's potentially even better than a 'normal' crop factor. By the time you're playing MFT you're already doing lens math all the time, and my experiences with the GH5/7 and GX85 and OG BM cameras was that it encouraged curiosity in different lenses, different focal lengths, different looks (from different FOVs), and different creative directions from the different looks. For me the (imposed) variety was a source of creativity rather than a limitation. I've seen videos recently talking about new 40mm lenses and the people struggled to understand the lens, and also seemed to struggle with the entire concept of how small changes in FOV can have large changes in how you use them, whereas this is something I'm very familiar with and seems to be an advantage over people who only ever use "proper" cameras. The other thing that might be relevant is that the GH7 actually has some small crop-factors too. Obviously shooting 5.7K doesn't crop, but C4K, UHD, and 1080p have subtle variations in their crop factors, so maybe that 2.2x is coming from the sensor? Still, even if no future MFT camera materialises, this might end up with a spot in my lineup anyway. The GH7 sensor has incredibly improved low-light (compared to any camera of a similar size) so the F1.7-2.8 lens should be quite serviceable in low-light and would have a shallow enough DOF for some nice separation in many situations too. I'm keen to see some numbers about how large it is.

Ha, also another of my thoughts! As I am in the twilight of my career and have not yet scratched the Leica itch, if the LUMIX option is not available prior to the end of June, I might as well skip it as half my season will be done before I got to use it…so would probably hold on until 2027 and pay the massive premium to get the same thing with a red dot and a fancier box to put in the back of a cupboard. Or I might just upgrade my phone…

Does it still have the same caveat as the LX100 in having an MFT sensor but only having 85% of it exposed to the lens ? The lens on the L10 being 10.9-34mm but being described as a 24-70mm equivalent does align with that 2.2x crop factor of the 85%. Does it matter though ? Not really, I really like my original LX100 and this addresses absolutely every one of its shortcomings including the OIS on the lens and the fixed screen let alone the internals. As it should of course being twelve years after the launch of the original and at practically double the price. I think Panasonic has jumped the shark so high with its MFT prices in recent years that they believe they can now position even a sub-MFT size product as a bargain and they are likely correct. I think I’ll wait for the Leica badged version though as if I’m going to pay through the nose for it then I might as well go the whole hog.

Normally I’d also want IBIS, but in this case, e stab is fine for me as my use case for this would be freestanding monopod use for video and handheld only for stills…so gets a pass. The only comp for me really is a phone like the Xiaomi Ultra for around the same price which would also do the same job, but would be a ‘one & done EDC’ which a camera in addition to a phone, is not. Plus my phone is getting a bit old and battered and will need replacing soon. Hmmm, decisions decisions… I did not want to do anything this year and was planning new phone only next year, but my current camera drama has forced the issue!

This looked and sounded really good until they said there was no IBIS. I suppose this makes sense as they emphasized this is targeted for photographers, but I do hope they release a video focused model that includes IBIS because I would love a genuinely pocketable video camera like this.

I'm not worried about fixed lens, especially since it's a sufficiently fast zoom lens. The bummer for me with the X100 VI series was that 35mm equivalent can feel a little cramped for tourist photos indoors - and the GFX 100RF isn't all that portable (for being a 44x33mm sensor, quite small, but enormous compared with an ZV-1). Giving me a 24mm equivalent for indoors is great - and f/5.6 equivalent at 75mm should make for portraits with backgrounds just blurry enough to separate the subject from the background without converting the background into a toneh-esque watercolor painting with blobs of green and blue in place of trees and water. It's pretty similar to the focal ranges for the ZV-1 which, overall, is still fantastic today - but I'd really prefer 10-bit recording to 8-bit... and I'd gladly trade a little bit of body size for a battery that lasts a little longer. Mostly, I'd see this as a "better than my phone" option to throw in a pocket when traveling - and that I could more easily bring out with me in places with high rates of gear theft and use without being too overt - and with a form factor that feels both more robust and more comfortable/ergonomic to use than the Pocket 3.

A mix of two glass, Schneider cinelux front and Moller 32 on the rear. Taking lens was a Soviet Vega 20mm C mount

Yes, the price is a bit high, but if you can wait, these things tend to drop quite quickly. I’ll be wanting the titanium one. Quite fancied that for the S9 but as I already had one, wasn’t going to trade just to get it, but if I’d had that choice from scratch… GH7 sensor + S1II processor in a tiny body… OK, fixed lens but it’s pretty decent. It’s not a ‘pro’ camera as such but one I think pros can have fun with which was exactly how they billed the OG GF1 in what was it, 2008/09? That was interchangeable lens but I drank that Cool Aid and bought one.